Borderline is not at all the same thing, snitch bitch.
BPD is as follows from the scientific standpoint: Intense unstable relationships in which the borderline always ends up getting hurt. Gunderson admits that this symptom is somewhat general, but considers it so central to BPD that he says he would hesitate to diagnose a patient as BPD without its presence. Repetitive self-destructive behavior, often designed to prompt rescue. Chronic fear of abandonment and panic when forced to be alone. Distorted thoughts/perceptions, particularly in terms of relationships and interactions with others. Hypersensitivity, meaning an unusual sensitivity to nonverbal communication. Gunderson notes that this can be confused with distortion if practitioners are not careful (somewhat similar to Herman's statement that, while survivors of intense long-term trauma may have unrealistic notions of the power realities of the situation they were in, their notions are likely to be closer to reality than the therapist might think). Impulsive behaviors that often embarrass the borderline later. Poor social adaptation: in a way, borderlines tend not to know or understand the rules regarding performance in job and academic settings.
These are all self destructively oriented traits, as well as delusional implications and a lack of security is characteristic, not narcissism. These traits are unharnessed and overdeveloped emotional turmoil within a female blown out of control and leading to instability, while sociopathy is characteristic of stability and control as opposed to a lack thereof.
Again, snitch bitch, you're retarded. But your saving grace since Ukan and Daft put you together, you're our best punchline. And you're still here, so people will still fuck with you. Let's see how really amusing you can really be.
And you know the funniest part? You're only still on here because you're obstinately refusing to leave because we told you it'd be proof of all we've said. You don't yet realise we have all the proof we need.
referencing the discussion two nights ago, it probably did a lot of damage to this blog. People will be leaving..this will be my last post. Any last scrap of delusion sociopaths had a grandeur to them evaporated with comments revelling in the like of "I watched a man beaten half to death AND I FELT NOTHING!'. It just makes you look like a bunch of sad psychological perverts, and probably perverts in other ways as well. Not interesting at all, goodbye.
That is the visual association I make with everything that you said, here:
"Again, snitch bitch, you're retarded. But your saving grace since Ukan and Daft put you together, you're our best punchline."
And you're still here, so people will still fuck with you. Let's see how really amusing you can really be.
And you know the funniest part? You're only still on here because you're obstinately refusing to leave because we told you it'd be proof of all we've said. You don't yet realise we have all the proof we need."
I don't imagine you'll make the correct association. But, nevertheless, a picture is worth a thousand words.
Jas, I'd like to revisit an old topic you usually skirt quite deftly.
You meet the criteria for NPD. You don't meet the criteria in the PCL-R.
You claim to be a sociopath anyway. Thus you claim the PCL-R must be wrong.
How do you rationalize this?
Please don't insult my intelligence by giving me some bullshit answer about how the members of the mental health community don't know what they're talking about. You're using their disorder, and you're recognizing their authority by extension.
Also, what do you find so abbhorant about the possibility of being a narcissist? You obviously meet all the criteria, and wanting to be something "more" than a simple narcissist is a natural extension of the disorder. The traits you claim to have aren't consistent with a sociopath/psychopath "diagnosis," so how is your self-diagnosis rational?
Honestly, I'd love to read a rational explanation for this, and I know you're quite capable of typing one up assuming your reasoning is actually rational. You've surprised me on more than one occasion when I thought you were just bullshitting. I'd greatly appreciate it if you could surprise me one more time.
Without a rational explanation, the only way I can see that you might be a sociopath is that you're just lying to make yourself seem more capable. Sociopaths tend to do that.
I only claim to be anything on here when it suits my current aim. Honestly, I couldn't tell you what label I fit into. So far no one really can. I'm not a narcissist, either. I'm just better than most people, not all. I only say things on here when it fits my convenience. When there's something I want to learn more about or cement in my own head, I comment on it. That's just the way I learn. But it makes all my traits exaggerated and difficult to differentiate here.
And snitch bitch, in the last few "Interesting" posts I have neither responded to nor read or seen the pictures, and I will not now, so whatever similarity you think you're making can be put into the thousand words. Which I probably also won't read.
DirtyHarriett don't even bother. Jasnowflake is a extreme example of a narcissist and you will never win. No matter how valid or concrete your evidence they will always equivocate, backpedal and outright lie thinking everyone is somehow magically blind to their antics. Its a extreme perception problem, they just simply don't process anything negative about themselves. Even if they use self deprecating humor, it is simply deflection. They can do no wrong. The cards are always stack against them and it is everyone else's fault. I'm 100% sure Jasnowflake leads a mundane life of constant petty aggravations and misery due to the perceived imperfections and insults of people around her. If you ever due bust through that infantile thinking, they completely lose their shit.
Don't lower yourself to her level, let her keep the crown of shit she wears.
well, i for one am sad to see you go. this site has been the most interesting one i've followed in a while. although i do agree that it has been so off topic with the cat fighting that it is hard to weed through the insults and find the core discussion.
Here's another one while we're on sociopath quotes and have nothing else to talk about.
“the bigger the organization, the more unavoidable is its immortality and blind stupidity (Senatus bestia, senatores boni viri). Society, by automatically stressing all the collective qualities in its individual representatives, puts a premium on mediocrity, on everything that settles down to vegetate in an easy irresponsible way… Our admiration for great organizations dwindles when once we become aware of the other side of the wonder: the tremendous piling up and accentuation of all that is primitive in man, and the unavoidable destruction of his individuality in the interests of the monstrosity that every great organization in fact is.”
If sociopaths can be compared to wolves, this is your story:
You are a mangy beta wolf.
You were all alone, trotting out of some disillusioned life to a chaotic pack of wolves; admiring the strength of the fierce looking alphas, and despising the "sheep".
The alphas looked you over, recognizing your wolf teeth, and wolf hair, but were unthreatened, because of your apparent beta weakness.
Because the alphas were suffering from fleas and dingleberries, they accepted you into the pack - recognizing your potential worth as a "grooming" beta.
And, also realizing, they would have to keep you in line, forbid they let your arrogance become too great, and you start some passive-aggressive takeover of power.
Happy with delight, at being accepted by the wolf pack, not having to roam amongst the "sheep", you quickly took to your daily tasks.
Licking the dingleberries off of the alpha wolves' asses.
Chewing the fleas out of their superior fur.
And accepting the nips, claws, and practice attacks they would inflict on you to "keep you in line" but mostly for shits and giggles.
In spite of your inferior status amongst the beta wolves, unable to lead or procreate, you were happy, curled up at their asses... because you weren't a SHEEP.
Your dreams at night were mostly of sheep, and what you hated most about them:
"Those mindless sheep!
Those petty, weak sheep!
How disgusting they are without teeth, and fur, and claws. Following the leader around, without any real power, at all!
If we want to compare people to wolves Dirty (Which anything above a maggot would be a stretch but so be it) we could compare you to the wolf licking the bloody knife in the snow. Licking and licking away until she bleeds to death. That's what you do on this site day in and day out.
Off topic: It does seem a bit sexist that a female "sociopath" is BPD, and a male sociopath... is just a... sociopath.
I mean, really?
"Sexist"?
You are qualifying sociopathy with a value that is at least higher than bpd...interesting. Not valid (or even sensible) at all, but interesting that you would think so.
Dirty Harriet, I did the same thing to the socio in my life: called the police! You shoulda seen the look on her face..priceless
The masked dropped: I laughed my ass off! She looked beat, pissed, LOL..oh, well the criminal history. LOL Did I forget to mention she was/is a genius? Everybody else was just soooooooooooooooo stupid? riiight
I just love how every nitwit that comes crawling in here feels closure after they fail at relationships because they decide their ex was/is a sociopath. Whatever it takes to absolve yourself of responsibility you socio asshole!
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Ha. This quote is kind of funny now because it reminds me of Snitch Bitch.
ReplyDeleteI didn't really see a reason to respond until then.
But now that I thought of that it's hilarious!
Fuck you, cock sucker.
ReplyDeleteOff topic: It does seem a bit sexist that a female "sociopath" is BPD, and a male sociopath... is just a... sociopath.
ReplyDeleteI mean, really?
WTF?!?
DeleteBorderline is not at all the same thing, snitch bitch.
ReplyDeleteBPD is as follows from the scientific standpoint:
Intense unstable relationships in which the borderline always ends up getting hurt. Gunderson admits that this symptom is somewhat general, but considers it so central to BPD that he says he would hesitate to diagnose a patient as BPD without its presence.
Repetitive self-destructive behavior, often designed to prompt rescue.
Chronic fear of abandonment and panic when forced to be alone.
Distorted thoughts/perceptions, particularly in terms of relationships and interactions with others.
Hypersensitivity, meaning an unusual sensitivity to nonverbal communication. Gunderson notes that this can be confused with distortion if practitioners are not careful (somewhat similar to Herman's statement that, while survivors of intense long-term trauma may have unrealistic notions of the power realities of the situation they were in, their notions are likely to be closer to reality than the therapist might think).
Impulsive behaviors that often embarrass the borderline later.
Poor social adaptation: in a way, borderlines tend not to know or understand the rules regarding performance in job and academic settings.
These are all self destructively oriented traits, as well as delusional implications and a lack of security is characteristic, not narcissism. These traits are unharnessed and overdeveloped emotional turmoil within a female blown out of control and leading to instability, while sociopathy is characteristic of stability and control as opposed to a lack thereof.
Again, snitch bitch, you're retarded. But your saving grace since Ukan and Daft put you together, you're our best punchline. And you're still here, so people will still fuck with you. Let's see how really amusing you can really be.
And you know the funniest part? You're only still on here because you're obstinately refusing to leave because we told you it'd be proof of all we've said. You don't yet realise we have all the proof we need.
Repetitive self-destructive behavior, often designed to prompt rescue
Deletepity play?
so manipulative right?
"Only when convincing someone else does one feel safe from gnawing doubts."
ReplyDeleteAnother good one for you, while we're on this topic
"while sociopathy is characteristic of stability and control as opposed to a lack thereof."
ReplyDelete*facepalms*
Very appropriate quote, jas.
ReplyDeletewow, for being a group of non emotional people, y'all sure do get your feathers ruffled.
ReplyDeleteOh there are plenty emotions here, just not so much empathy.
Deletereferencing the discussion two nights ago, it probably did a lot of damage to this blog. People will be leaving..this will be my last post. Any last scrap of delusion sociopaths had a grandeur to them evaporated with comments revelling in the like of "I watched a man beaten half to death AND I FELT NOTHING!'. It just makes you look like a bunch of sad psychological perverts, and probably perverts in other ways as well. Not interesting at all, goodbye.
ReplyDeleteJasnowflake,
ReplyDeleteI'm so glad to see your verbosity issue has cleared up. I feel like we can be natural, now, and really get to know each other.
That being said,
Yesterday's blog utilized a little experiment; a visual association that the sociopath cannot make with an appropriate thought/emotion.
Your post today inspires me to continue the visual experiment, with another photo:
http://roadkillrefugee.files.wordpress.com/2007/11/mission-accomplished.png
That is the visual association I make with everything that you said, here:
"Again, snitch bitch, you're retarded. But your saving grace since Ukan and Daft put you together, you're our best punchline."
And you're still here, so people will still fuck with you. Let's see how really amusing you can really be.
And you know the funniest part? You're only still on here because you're obstinately refusing to leave because we told you it'd be proof of all we've said. You don't yet realise we have all the proof we need."
I don't imagine you'll make the correct association. But, nevertheless, a picture is worth a thousand words.
P.S. Eat a dick.
Jas, I'd like to revisit an old topic you usually skirt quite deftly.
ReplyDeleteYou meet the criteria for NPD.
You don't meet the criteria in the PCL-R.
You claim to be a sociopath anyway.
Thus you claim the PCL-R must be wrong.
How do you rationalize this?
Please don't insult my intelligence by giving me some bullshit answer about how the members of the mental health community don't know what they're talking about. You're using their disorder, and you're recognizing their authority by extension.
Also, what do you find so abbhorant about the possibility of being a narcissist? You obviously meet all the criteria, and wanting to be something "more" than a simple narcissist is a natural extension of the disorder. The traits you claim to have aren't consistent with a sociopath/psychopath "diagnosis," so how is your self-diagnosis rational?
Honestly, I'd love to read a rational explanation for this, and I know you're quite capable of typing one up assuming your reasoning is actually rational. You've surprised me on more than one occasion when I thought you were just bullshitting. I'd greatly appreciate it if you could surprise me one more time.
Without a rational explanation, the only way I can see that you might be a sociopath is that you're just lying to make yourself seem more capable. Sociopaths tend to do that.
*popcorn*
ReplyDeleteI only claim to be anything on here when it suits my current aim. Honestly, I couldn't tell you what label I fit into. So far no one really can. I'm not a narcissist, either. I'm just better than most people, not all. I only say things on here when it fits my convenience. When there's something I want to learn more about or cement in my own head, I comment on it. That's just the way I learn. But it makes all my traits exaggerated and difficult to differentiate here.
ReplyDeleteAnd snitch bitch, in the last few "Interesting" posts I have neither responded to nor read or seen the pictures, and I will not now, so whatever similarity you think you're making can be put into the thousand words. Which I probably also won't read.
How very sociopathic of you, snowflake.
ReplyDeleteWhat a refreshingly short response.
Thank you.
Jasnowflake,
ReplyDelete"Which I probably also won't read."
Like you can control yourself...
To be brief (you may skim over):
Back peddle?
Turtle action?
Hit and run?
Pussy foot?
Ass clown?
Passive-aggressive?
Limp dick?
Yellow?
Pink?
Vagina?
Avril Lavigne?
Tryhard?
Asshat?
Toolbox?
Metrosexual?
That's all for now.
DirtyHarriett don't even bother. Jasnowflake is a extreme example of a narcissist and you will never win. No matter how valid or concrete your evidence they will always equivocate, backpedal and outright lie thinking everyone is somehow magically blind to their antics. Its a extreme perception problem, they just simply don't process anything negative about themselves. Even if they use self deprecating humor, it is simply deflection. They can do no wrong. The cards are always stack against them and it is everyone else's fault. I'm 100% sure Jasnowflake leads a mundane life of constant petty aggravations and misery due to the perceived imperfections and insults of people around her. If you ever due bust through that infantile thinking, they completely lose their shit.
ReplyDeleteDon't lower yourself to her level, let her keep the crown of shit she wears.
well, i for one am sad to see you go. this site has been the most interesting one i've followed in a while. although i do agree that it has been so off topic with the cat fighting that it is hard to weed through the insults and find the core discussion.
ReplyDeletethunderball = peter pan. the real thunderball was ukan light. pp's decided to make his point again using tb's name. what a small dickweed.
ReplyDeleteConsidering the shear length and incoherence of some posts, many participants here are preening narcissists.
ReplyDeleteYou're supposed to be good at manipulating others, not boring the fuck out them or chattering like mental patients.
Come on psychopaths! With this attitude you'll never get people alone long enough to enjoy them.
You silly, silly morons. Everyone keeps calling out the psychos, not realizing they are already out lol. Just stick around...
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ReplyDeleteActually felt sorry for snowflake while reading his/her previous response.
ReplyDeleteLet's figure out which world leaders are sociopaths. Anyone? Mugabe? Do you guys think Gaddafi is a narcissist?
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ReplyDeleteLooks like I'm gonna have to take out the trash again...
ReplyDeleteDaft,
ReplyDeleteYes. I was boring. I was bored when writing that post.
But, let me take another swing at it.
Here's another one while we're on sociopath quotes and have nothing else to talk about.
ReplyDelete“the bigger the organization, the more unavoidable is its immortality and blind stupidity (Senatus bestia, senatores boni viri). Society, by automatically stressing all the collective qualities in its individual representatives, puts a premium on mediocrity, on everything that settles down to vegetate in an easy irresponsible way… Our admiration for great organizations dwindles when once we become aware of the other side of the wonder: the tremendous piling up and accentuation of all that is primitive in man, and the unavoidable destruction of his individuality in the interests of the monstrosity that every great organization in fact is.”
Jasnowflake,
ReplyDeleteIf sociopaths can be compared to wolves, this is your story:
You are a mangy beta wolf.
You were all alone, trotting out of some disillusioned life to a chaotic pack of wolves; admiring the strength of the fierce looking alphas, and despising the "sheep".
The alphas looked you over, recognizing your wolf teeth, and wolf hair, but were unthreatened, because of your apparent beta weakness.
Because the alphas were suffering from fleas and dingleberries, they accepted you into the pack - recognizing your potential worth as a "grooming" beta.
And, also realizing, they would have to keep you in line, forbid they let your arrogance become too great, and you start some passive-aggressive takeover of power.
Happy with delight, at being accepted by the wolf pack, not having to roam amongst the "sheep", you quickly took to your daily tasks.
Licking the dingleberries off of the alpha wolves' asses.
Chewing the fleas out of their superior fur.
And accepting the nips, claws, and practice attacks they would inflict on you to "keep you in line" but mostly for shits and giggles.
In spite of your inferior status amongst the beta wolves, unable to lead or procreate, you were happy, curled up at their asses... because you weren't a SHEEP.
Your dreams at night were mostly of sheep, and what you hated most about them:
"Those mindless sheep!
Those petty, weak sheep!
How disgusting they are without teeth, and fur, and claws. Following the leader around, without any real power, at all!
At, least, I'M not a sheep!!"
The End
ha dinglberries. :)
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ReplyDeleteWow. THis makes me miss Sarah a little bit. At least she pretended to be smart.
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ReplyDeleteDaft,
ReplyDeleteNo. It's simply titled:
Jasnowflake - Beta Wolf.
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ReplyDeleteDaft,
ReplyDeleteI may not be an artist.
But, Jasnowflake is a beta wolf.
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ReplyDeleteDaft,
ReplyDeleteHaha. Masterbeta!
P.S. I'm female. We have a completely different chain of command.
the one with the smallest dog is leader
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ReplyDeleteIf we want to compare people to wolves Dirty (Which anything above a maggot would be a stretch but so be it) we could compare you to the wolf licking the bloody knife in the snow. Licking and licking away until she bleeds to death. That's what you do on this site day in and day out.
ReplyDeleteNot interesting at all, goodbye.
ReplyDeleteHey, I thought we were the ones who were suppose to see the world as nothing more than dancing monkey's for our amusement?
Off topic: It does seem a bit sexist that a female "sociopath" is BPD, and a male sociopath... is just a... sociopath.
ReplyDeleteI mean, really?
"Sexist"?
You are qualifying sociopathy with a value that is at least higher than bpd...interesting. Not valid (or even sensible) at all, but interesting that you would think so.
The survival of others is never mandatory, but necessary for our amusement, thus necessary for our own survival.
ReplyDeleteGood catch Sarah
ReplyDeleteEmpaths are superior to all of you.
ReplyDeleteAlso, DirtyHarriet is a hollow nothing.
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ReplyDeleteSo are you, Daft.
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ReplyDeleteDaft has the hots for Harriet.
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ReplyDeleteYou're obviously not self-aware.
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ReplyDeleteIt's funny how I did you a favor.
ReplyDeleteNo, anonymous - I am a solid, something, most definitely.
ReplyDeleteAnd UKan,
ReplyDeletePLEASE get on some sort of medication for those psychotic delusions, already.
There's a lot going on outside of your mind's kill zone, ok?
Death is your right, right is your failure.
ReplyDelete[scratches head]
ReplyDeleteFirst?
First. Virus doesn't count.
ReplyDelete"It is not necessary to change. Survival is not mandatory.
ReplyDeleteW. Edwards Deming"
Does this include adaptation? B/c I'm pretty sure that's change, and necessary at least situationally.
neither does anonymous - second!
ReplyDeletejust fuck everyone
ReplyDeletethan you can die
more sociopaths/borderlines/narcs to rule... there illusions
and saving the world lol
strong men are made for creating offspring
Deletenot surviving
strong women are made for raising offspring
(allone)
Dirty Harriet,
ReplyDeleteI did the same thing to the socio in my life: called the police! You shoulda seen the look on her face..priceless
The masked dropped: I laughed my ass off! She looked beat, pissed, LOL..oh, well the criminal history. LOL
Did I forget to mention she was/is a genius? Everybody else was just soooooooooooooooo stupid? riiight
I just love how every nitwit that comes crawling in here feels closure after they fail at relationships because they decide their ex was/is a sociopath. Whatever it takes to absolve yourself of responsibility you socio asshole!
ReplyDeleteStrong women often do stay alone by choice!
ReplyDeleteLive alone. Not stay alone.
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