An unusual question from a reader:
I've read some of your articles on your website. I have checked most of the titles but I didn't find one thing I was looking for. I might have just overlooked it. So what interests me is: if my sociopath boyfriend broke up with me, is there any way to seduce him back? How?
My response:
This is a really good question and you are right that no one has ever asked me it before. I didn't even know that people might want to do something like this until you asked. I have a feeling that it will end up being somewhat contextual. In other words, it will depend on your particular circumstances. Could you give me a little bit more background about your relationship with your boyfriend?
This was followed by another email from the reader with details, to which I responded:
I have been thinking a lot about your email. I think from what I read, you smothered him. ("So why we broke up: because he never showed his love, and I realized he didn’t care about me. I knew that but I hoped that with time he could get to like me. I was very kind to him, showed him my love in many ways. And the more I showed it the colder he turned.") Sociopaths can't handle excessive emotional output from anyone. If the sociopath really likes you, then the worst thing you can do is get all upset about something the sociopath has done. ("He hurt me every day, I was crying a lot.") I can get really angry when people cry because I have hurt them. It's sort of like a slap in the face -- "You monster, look what you have done to me." You probably were just unable to really accept him for how he was, or be able to put up with it, or maybe you were, but he saw what an effort it was causing you and how hurt you were becoming because of it. ("So I told him that if he could not live a day without telling me bad things, then we should consider parting." He agreed, saying it was better “so you don’t have to have these arguments again.” And never replied to me again. That was 8 weeks ago.") So he broke up with you so that you both wouldn't have to be in a dead-end relationship anymore.
In terms of seducing him back again, I sort of doubt you would be able to. Your best hope would be to wait for him to try to reconnect with you. If he doesn't, you are out of luck. If he does, then play cold/rational/normal/hard-to-get. Act like nothing bothers you. Pretend that you don't have any emotional needs. After a while of that, suggest that you hook up, but just for sex. Since you say he is sensitive about his body, tell him something about his body that you particularly crave. Appeal to his vanity. Sociopaths can be flattered just as easily as anyone else, you just have to find their weakest spot or their greatest insecurity and exploit it. I don't know, maybe I'll ask my readers for other ideas.
Readers?
An unusual question from a reader:
I don't consider myself a sociopath, but I do have a lot of sociopathic traits.
ReplyDeleteWhen I'm done with somebody, I'm done with them. I don't want to see them any more. I don't want to talk to them any more. Any attempt to contact me will piss me off until I reach a boiling point, and then I'll do whatever is necessary to get them away from me. Name calling, prodding into insecurities, arranging for their friends and family to believe they're stalking me, whatever it takes.
But I almost always keep tabs on them.
They can catch my interest again if I find that they're getting on with their lives. In a way, it's like a kid getting sick of a toy, having no interest in it until he sees another kid playing with it and having fun. Suddenly, he just wants his toy back.
Though eventually, if I feel I can't have the person, my desire to possess deteriorates gradually into a desire to destroy. Akin to getting frustrated, and finally ripping the toy from the other kid's hands and smashing it into the sidewalk right in front of his face.
(In my mind, these people belong to me, and always will, so I have a right to destroy them or their relationships if I can't have them.)
My advice? Act like you don't need him, but don't be a bitch about it. Don't flaunt your supposed happiness, but make sure he's aware of it. Be careful not to overdo it. You want to provide the appearance of a happy person, not put on a transparent show of desperation.
Become an interesting toy. ;)
I love this response
DeleteUm, yeah...you are a sociopath.
DeleteNo he's not, he's just narcissistic.
DeleteNo he's not, he's just narcissistic.
DeleteWhich means.. that I should definitely not send him a 'Merry Christmas e-card, right? :D
ReplyDeleteDEFINITELY NOT!
DeleteYou should totally send it.
ReplyDeleteI'm in a similar situation.
ReplyDeleteMaking it all about sex (no relationship/emotional talk) works VERY well.
Also, acting like you don't care will also probably drive him nuts, sociopath or not.
Manipulate the manipulator.
However, if you still find yourself unable to accept him for who he really is, right now, and still find yourself expecting more from him, this may backfire on you and make you feel like a cheap piece of shit.
Up to you.
My advice is simple-
ReplyDeleteQuit while you're ahead.
If you don't like him now, you won't like him later. Doubtful he will stop being sociopathic and that you'll stop being empathic.
Not a good combination for anything meaningful and/or fulfilling, except sex. If that's what you're after then more power to you...
Don't do it! If he is a true sociopath he is never going to stop disappointing you unless you are willing to be treated in a dehumanizing way in a relationship which is absurd. I have done this tons of times. My sociopath ex who fits the criteria to a T would find an excuse to dump me out of the blue to screw with my self esteem and then he would send me flowers or call inviting me to travel or go to some nice event or buy me things to get me back. It was his way of demeaning me. I have also used methods to get him back like some of the posters mentioned such as pretending like I was just horny or playing with his head making him think that I enjoyed my freedom and that the breakup was for the best. It all worked but in the end everytime I went back to him I was hit with something more painful than the last. Chances are your bf will also call you out of the blue eventually, sociopaths like to recycle their victims when they're bored or having problems with the current one or even just when they're ...easy prey.
ReplyDeleteit's not working now, it's been 8 weeks and he seems to be doing fine without contact with you. you contacting him will only make you appear needy and weak. my guess is that he is probably not your "soul mate". i would look at it like he is doing you a favor and move on. find someone you can have a relationship with that won't be such a mind fuck. love should be "easy" in the beginning, if it is not than you are probably forcing something that should not BE.
ReplyDeleteOk, I've sent him the card. We'll see.
ReplyDeleteI don't need his soul, I only need his body. But until I get him talk to me, I can't really get anything.
Ugh. Pathetic. Have more respect for yourself. There are so many fucking people in the world it isn't even possible to meet a hair's-width of them. You think this guy is the end-all-be-all?? Wake up to reality and start putting your focus where you are obviously afraid to put it. On yourself and why you believe all your are worthy of is scraps. Until you start figuring out why you are so needy for this type of treatment, you will continue to suffer. I see a New Year's resolution in your future....if we make it past today, that is. ;)
DeleteGreat. Let us know how he receives it. Your next move could be pivotal.
ReplyDeleteYou are cat-and-mousing this person for your own enjoyment at her misery. You aren't trying to "help" her and your efforts are really transparent to anyone who spends anytime on this site. Get a life.
DeleteFirst you break his body, then you break his soul. Sever the head and the body will die. lol
ReplyDeleteHe'll call you when you are just moving on, because like Peter said...he'll be keeping tabs to ensure you are his forever, when you have a shiny new wrapper on, he'll come around just to slowly or swiftly tear it off to reveal the you he feels he created.
ReplyDeleteMake no mistake about it...you are his no matter how long it takes for him to contact you, since even now while he is MIA, you are thinking about him.
Look, Daft and Peter are on the same page, again. How sweet.
ReplyDeleteMy advice to all the ladies who want to seduce sociopaths:
ReplyDeleteAss to mouth!
Otherwise, refer back to foolmetwice's post.
"Ass to mouth!"
ReplyDeleteLMAO!
And Dirty, with regards to your comment about me and Peter…I doubt we're on the same page, chances are we never were, but I just happen to agree with him.
He didn't write, so he probably won't.
ReplyDeleteWhat does "ass to mouth" mean?
Daft, Can you please explain what you mean by "the you he feels he created"? My sociopath stalks me when we're broken up like he's checking up on me and sends randon text asking me out. He tries to screw with my head big time yet when I accept his advances he uses me like a piece of trash, acts bored after he gets layed and seems to want nothing to do with me. I'm done playing this game with him and I'm getting ready to fight back with the law if I have to but I just want to know what he is trying to do? Make sure I'm miserable for the rest of my life? Make sure I have nothing good going on in my life? Screw with my head and make me nervous with the stalking and randon weird behavior??? What is the point of all this when he obviously doesn't want me or respect me?
ReplyDeleteM, Don't worry he will write or call but it's going to be when you act like you have moved on. I say thank your lucky stars he didn't write. I would advise to change your email address and your number don't keep that door open. I did this for four years and it has been pure misery! You don't know the depths of secrets that a sociopath has. Once you start peeling the layer of the onion you will get sting after sting of what they are capable of. The lies are so confusing, such a constant major mind screw. I don't understand why I love my sociopath so much but believe me it has never been worth it. I probably could have had a great relationship during this whole time with someone actually capable of having a conversation without always having to "win".
ReplyDeleteWhat I meant was that he feels that the feelings you have for him were something he created, instead of say...feelings you FEEL.
ReplyDeleteSee, some of us can't grasp the concept of emotions being like air, since we have difficulty registering them and sometimes we mess up trying to recreate them because we feel differently then empaths.
So when I said "the you he created" I mean the way you feel from his point of view, where emotions are made, not felt.
And yeah…he checks up on you to see if you have moved on (completely) and if he sense you haven’t, he exploits it for his own gain, because he still matters to you on some level and that’s all he needs to keep his mind games going, keep you on an emotional leash and by sending you messages, it is the same as him yanking you back into his yard. It sounds cruel I’m sure, but he might just see it like that.
Peter said something similar about his getting sick of a toy (victim?) until he sees they are enjoying life, then his interest sparks…you are your sociopath’s toy and since you are trying to contact him, you are old and broken, or tied to the tree, depending on the metaphor you choose to see yourself. But make no mistake, being a toy is the same as being a dog, you need interaction to be happy.
As for your choice to take legal action, it can probably be assumed that he'll play to the system far better then you and you'll wind up in more crap then you are now...he can shut off emotion, take it out of the equation...where as no matter how hard you try to hide what you feel, you're still feeling...so it might be best to get that out of your head, unless you have cold hard proof that he is abusive to you and not just emotionally.
DirtyHarriet said: Ass to mouth!
ReplyDelete. . . the only sound advice on this thread.
foolmetwice said: "What is the point of all this when he obviously doesn't want me or respect me?"
ReplyDeleteThere is no point. He's just having fun.
foolmetwice said: "M, Don't worry he will write or call but it's going to be when you act like you have moved on."
ReplyDeleteI will respectful disagree with the people who advise that you play "hard to get" by pretending to have moved on.
If you are dealing with someone who's whole life is fake, the act should be pretty easy for him to read.
When I see a woman 'acting' like she doesn't need my attention I know it will cause her more discomfort to further obviate her within my world.
So I'll contrive to keep her in my network so she can observe first hand how unnecessary her life is to my happiness. . . .until she breaks and come crawling back (then it's ATM time).
I know I'm willing to keep this up for a very long time. So if you just want him back, best to crawl on your hands and knees now rather than later. Vulnerability is irresistible, for a few hours anyway.
"ass to mouth"...
ReplyDeleteWhoever made the comment please explain what you meant.
My interpretation, stick your bum to his mouth and he'll be happy.
I knew a socio who loved bungholes. gross!
HL = BS
ReplyDeleteAfter Harry Lime's comment I am totally puzzled.
ReplyDelete"So if you just want him back, best to crawl on your hands and knees now rather than later."
I wonder if it's not too late already.
And I still don't understand the proper meaning and connotations of "ass to mouth". (Sorry, I am not a native speaker of English.)
ReplyDeleteFor fuck's sake! Ass to mouth is when a guy is fucking up the asshole and he pull his dick out and sticks it directly in your mouth, thus the fucking title ASS to MOUTH!
ReplyDeleteI see why this guy likes to fuck with your head, you are a dumb bitch to the most definate degree!
lol only here~
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ReplyDeleteYou're toned, well paid, happy—yet you still feel the need to mention him, which means you aren't over him, you’re just blinded by the lies you told yourself that all is well. Your inability to keep from referencing him means he still has some power over you.
ReplyDeleteThe truth is he is responsible for your new happy self because he dragged you to such a place of emotional turmoil that you felt you had to do something.
Your improvement is just a reaction to his actions.
If you honestly think you would be so happy, successful, psychically and mentally healthy had you never crossed paths with him then you are a delusional idiot. He broke you down and left you in pieces and you choose to build yourself up stronger—action/reaction—plain and simple, like cost and consequence, since the cost you paid to be a better person was feeling the consequences of his actions.
Your improvement is the reaction and that is not possible without the original action.
Had he not come into contact with you then you wouldn’t be the person you are now, you’d be the person you were before you met him…most likely still not quite motivated, being paid what others thought you were worth…and the chances of that changing some other way is slim.
You said it yourself Myra:
“Being strung along by a sociopath might have triggered the motivation to aim for something much better.”
You are better off after having met him and survived it all then you would have ever been had you not been put through all those mind games, tests of emotional endurance. Like it or not, it IS because of him that you are so happy. And that is only because you are no longer miserable. You’re just a reaction, in the best possible way, since most never find enough pieces to fix themselves.
Sounds like my purposes have been served better than his.
ReplyDeletei hit the refreash button in my email and you gotta be infecting my inbox!
ReplyDeletei hate christmas gifts, you cant always return the stupid ones!
i hope he comes after you and rapes your toned ass and makes you go a2m before he skull fucks your dead body.
Is that how you see it Myra
ReplyDeleteHAHAHA! I just hit refreash and saw that dumb fuck's comment. LMAO!
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ReplyDeletedid some actually listen to daft's theory and agree? is that was just happened?
ReplyDeleteHoly balls. I'm so glad I found this freakin blog. Just this post alone has finally shed light on my (going on a) year long relationship with a "sociopath". I was somewhat confused between sociopath/psychopath but socio seems to be the one. Never liked this dude in the beginning, just wanted to f*ck and somewhere between my tits, he used his jedi mind tricks and I've been stuck ever since, can't get away from him. I've tried to break up with him several times and he uses the force and I KNOW he uses the force and I go back like a stupid bitch. I'm obsessed with his dingaling and who knows what he's out for. He controls me with his pecker and whenever we get in a fight and I'm looking for some honesty out of him, he says, "Come suck my dick, I won't want to fight"...and it works...I'm unsure of who the sick fuck really is, me or him. Needless to say, I'm glad I found this blog- a real eye opener, it all makes sense now, even after him stealing naked pictures of my sister, surfing craigslist for snatch, among various other things- I can't get away from this dude, what a weak shit I turned out to be.
ReplyDeleteI love that u posted... This is my life
Delete^Wow, you're really charming. I wonder why he doesn't treat you better.
ReplyDelete*sigh* Oh, Harry, I won't fault you for not being able to understand my sick sarcastic humor. I feel the urge to explain myself but nonestly, I don't feel like it.
ReplyDeleteDrowning psycho, weak is my sociopath ex who is the first person to bitch and expect help when someone wrongs him or when something goes wrong in his life yet he has no loyalty or sympathy to anyone else. That is the biggest sign of weakness there is if you ask me. I stayed with my ex because I loved him. I endured because I believed in him. Enduring is a sign of great strenghth. It might be stupid but I don't believe it's weak.
ReplyDeleteWerd.
DeleteEndurance is a sign of strength, but what you did was not endure, more like fulfill your personal obligation that you probably based on the hallmark definition of love: to stand by your man, through thick and thin, loss or win, together you can…and all that crap.
ReplyDeleteYou felt obligated because you loved him and as you fell out of love with him your obligations died down—just because endurance is defined as the ability to continue with an unpleasant or difficult situation, experience, or activity over a long period of time...that doesn't mean that it is the best word to describe your actions when their are underlying variables.
FoolMeTwice-You make mucho sense. I honestly was a strong, confident woman before I met him (typical, uh?). He broke me down, piece by piece and he uses sex to control me. He says he needs to go "talk" to someone to work on his issues but I think that's only because I told him something was wrong with him, I'm thinking he just said that to calm me but I'm at the breaking point. I have been faithful to him while he has betrayed me in every possible way you can imagine, leading a double life, keeping me to the side, hiding me from who he really is. Is there a post anywhere that talks about sociopaths and sex? I've read several places that sociopaths aren't gay but will not discriminate when it comes to have sex with the same sex partner, not to say this is accurate- just curious.
ReplyDeleteDrowning Psycho, here is a post that might answer something for you...
ReplyDeletehttp://www.sociopathworld.com/2009/05/sexuality-and-sociopathy.html
Also see the following since you mentioned that sociopaths don't discriminate sexually, is doesn't answer the sex question, but it might further explain some things...
http://www.sociopathworld.com/2009/05/sexuality-and-sociopathy.html
Skim through the archives, these were just the two that popped into my head.
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ReplyDeleteDrowning Psycho, He will probably never ever tell you who he really is because he knows it ain't normal. Believe me you probably don't want to know, you might never be the same again after you discover just who you have let into your life! My sociopath had sooo many secrets and lies. Literally lies upon lies to the point of confusion and when he would get discovered in a lie it would enrage him. I dug into his past and found out horrific dark things. They know their behavior and compulsions would be sooo looked down upon that they have to lie. Literally these people have evil compulsions that they cannot seem to control.
ReplyDeleteAs for the gay sex, yes! My ex was on a sexual type dating site supposedly before he met me and I found a gay man added to his friends list. When confronted his heart was pounding a thousand miles a minute but he played it off. I have no doubt now that he has at the very least experimented. You would never suspect because he is the most masculine of men. Don't be shocked to find a history of sexually deviant behavior. Prostitutes, lots of one night stands, men, who knows what else.
Basically, I've narrowed down the only times you can tell when your sociopath bf is telling the truth and that is if he tells you that he hates you or wants something bad to happen to you. You should leave. I'm trying desperately to get rid of mine. Someone told me that he just wants to make sure that he destroys me and I never succeed in life which is why all the mind games and reappearing. The thing is that I never did anything to him except try to love him! I really don't deserve his hate. I think it depends on the degree of their condition but the sooner you can leave the better.
Mine also agreed to therapy but I know that it was just a ploy probably to make me look like the crazy one so that he could justify more of his evil behavior. He also said that he had actually gone to therapy while we were broken up and then when I pop quiz him he fails. It's just a manipulation tactic. Every nice thing they say or do for you you will have to consider a manipulation and that's a horrible way to live with someone. They also keep tally and believe me they will throw it in your face later.
“These people have evil compulsions that they cannot seem to control.”
ReplyDeleteI actually laughed uncontrollably when I read that, an evil, twisted sounding laugh.
As for your pop quizzing him, he failed it the second you made your mind up about him, even if he did go to therapy and by some weird chance he answered your questions right, you would have just written it off as him being so sly and playing mind games because you made your mind up about him and nothing he does will change that. He could go get a lobotomy to reduce his sociopathic tendencies, show you the surgical scars and drool onto your shoes and it will all just be another lie of his endless web.
And yeah, we’re sexual thrill seekers but that isn’t so bad. What bugs most people is that we tend to keep that kind of information to ourselves and so naturally we were hiding it. If you asked him and he lied about it, then chances are he picked up on the tone in your voice and chose to lie about it. When people ask that kind of stuff, it’s rarely in the curious tone of voice, more often then not it is a suspicious and judgmental tone when asked.
“Do you rob the old blind lady…do you have three-way sex with a shemale hooker with another man?!...you sick fucker!”
That kind of tone and the way you phrase it tends to bring out the lying. Now, if you had asked in a way that subtly suggested you wanted to do something a bit different, you might get the truth because he isn’t on trial with Dr. Phil and the To Catch A Predator crew…though since we are more sexual, some of us are pretty good at assessing just how kinky or wild you are within the first few hours of meeting you.
I've dated lots of losers, and they typically always come crawling back eventually. I agree on the advice of one of the commenters of just focusing on yourself. It's not that sociopaths have no emotions, it's just that they lack empathy and feel differently than most people. they do feel pain at losing a relationship, but it's not from hurting you, it's just the loss. if you talk to him just remind him of the good times and create a mental picture of what a great thing he has lost in his life. I also agree that sociopaths are vulnerable to flattery, try to think about what fulfills his ego. don't bug him with your emotions, because he will not care about that as much as what type of fulfillment you can create in his life.
ReplyDeletealso, just try to find someone better. sociopaths hate to lose and once he sees you are desirable to someone else, then he will feel like he has lost you and will try to win you back.
Harry, has it occurred to you that any advice must be carried out properly in order for it to work? Of course it'll backfire if she does a shitty job. If you use a coffee grinder incorrectly, you could wind up grinding your penis into a bloody mush completely unsuitable for brewing, which is always a shame if you're really looking forward to coffee. Or if you're fond your penis.
ReplyDeleteBut anyway, I'm getting off track. The point is, groveling to someone who's disgusted with your emotions is a little like sticking your penis in a coffee grinder. Fuck. I came back to it again, didn't I?
I just can't seem to get this morning out of my head. It was really horrific.
Ignore me. I'm babbling.
if you want to have a relationship that is enjoyable with another person, it seems a good idea to just really look at that person and know that they are never going to view situations, feel emotions, or reciprocate what you put into the relationship, the same way you do. just because they behave differently does not make them losers or evil. if you perceive them to be a loser or evil, than it is ultimately up to you to stop and interact with people more in tune to your way of thinking.
ReplyDeleteif you find yourself hellbent on "making it work", (or forcing that dead horse to walk)...then maybe it is time to stop dating all together and look at yourself and figure out what is damaged in your own psyche that won't allow you to be content. start being responsible for your own happiness.
Daft- This is what I don't understand about my boyfriend. To be blunt, I am also extremely sexual and somewhat of a freak. When I first met my boyfriend, I was attracted to him b/c of his sex drive and his performance in the bedroom. I just "knew" he was a freak like me and thought I had hit a home run. Now, for the past year...he barely has sex with me, he avoids it, and when he does he screws me like I'm Mother Teresa- nothing fancy, in and out, *yawn* boring sex that leaves me more frustrated than before. I have taken a tremendous blow to my self esteem thinking that something is wrong with me b/c my bf doesn't want to bang me. I have NEVER been in a relationship like this, where I had to grovel to get sex. Pfft. I'm like, 'is he gay' and/or 'what's wrong with my vagina'? Bueller? Anyone? Yet, I find nasty pictures of girls on his phone (that he knows) with dildo's in their va-j-j, not even classy pictures but yet he does not welcome 'toys' in the bedroom and has never given me an orgasm nor has he given me the opportunity to have one. I have been deprived and have almost starved to death. I've never cheated on him and can't for the life of me figure out why he won't really have sex with me when I know, deep down, he's a nasty freak considering who he was when we first got together. Any insight would be great, sorry if this is too graphic but it is what it is :)
ReplyDelete"dildo's in their va-j-j"
ReplyDeleteOkay that was a funny thing to read, but the question that crawled into my mind after reading it was—did he take the pictures or were they sent to him?
If they were sent then it backs up his no toy rule. Some guys don't mind while others give a serious shit about that kind of kink…but if he took them and there was little to no doubt about him taking them because his dick is in the frame or something, then I would find it fascinating that he’ll do that with other women but won’t do it with you.
Maybe you’re going about it the wrong way when you approach him about sex. Maybe he doesn’t want to bang you, maybe he feels something for you…
HAHAHAHAHA!
Sorry, but it could happen.
He could also refuse your kinkiness because he knows you crave it and gets a kick out of denying you your own needs. Kind of like those warped senses of sexual pleasure we hear so much about when a moron kills someone and they mention the erotic crap that they claim to feel during the act…that all starts someplace, it rarely begins so extreme—don’t get me wrong!—he probably isn’t planning to murder you, but maybe you are his warm up act and he feeds off your sexual dissatisfaction and uses it to take his “other” forms of sexual release to a whole different level or erotic allure. He could be that kind of sexual deviant, a psychological sadist.
I’ve feed off of some pretty cruel things, a rush out of seeing emotional turmoil being inflicted. A sort of smug excitement from watching it take place and when I personally inflict it, that feeling is far more intense and I can get drunk off of the pain I bring about. It isn’t even a sexual feeling with me because its much more then that.
Sorry, I went off there a bit.
Think about it, you may be nothing more then mental foreplay for him...in any case, you should get yours any way you can.
you make a valid point about feeding off of people mentally. are you a sociopath daft or just really fucked up?
ReplyDeleteDrowning Psycho, Did you ask him? What was his answer. To me it sounds like it could be so many things that only he really knows the answer. My first impressions are that he could be on prescription medications or something is medically wrong with him causing the lack of sex drive. Are you sure he's a sociopath and not just depressed? His fizzled responses sound like a man who is depressed to me. I know that my sociopath responds in anger if anything. Your bf sounds more mellow like he's almost just given up or something. He could be getting it somewhere else or everywhere else which is why he doesn't have the stamina for you. Or you could have reduced yourself to such a level in front of him that now he is turned off having sex with you. There could be so many reasons. My ex had a crazy sexual appetite. I can't say that he was amazing in the bedroom although he wasn't bad. I had certain trigger words that would make him have major pe especially if I told him how great he was and how I was a ho! I think I brought most of the amazing stuff but he was very well endowed and would never say no to sex from anyone!
ReplyDeleteDaft or any Sociopath, If you know how I can get rid of my sociopath ex please let me know. He randomly stalks me, texts, and emails. The thing is that I am very weak for him and his tactics have worked in the past. He has used flattery, fear, the works to get me back and then he disposes me like a useless piece of trash. When I refused to get back with him this last time he served me with court papers. I know I have to break this off because no matter my feelings for him he will never be capable of loving me. So far I have changed my number and deleted my email address. Do you think that ignoring any further contact from him will work or should I take this further and get a restraining order? Any other tips for getting him out of my life completely? How can I make him not want to have anything to do with me?
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ReplyDeleteI vaguely recall the author of this blog writing about how to successfully cut ties with a sociopath....Look through the archives, I am almost positive its there and it goes something along the lines of ignoring them all together..Any response he gets (restraining order) is a response and it fuels the fire.
Ignore him, 100%.
If he gets dangerous then definitely contact Scooby Doo.
It's funny how you can seduce someone by ignoring them.
ReplyDeletestop being a tosser and run away from this person, are you insane? if id know my man was a sociopath sooner id have left sooner. i certainly never wanted to win him back. maybe you have been seduced into "i can do one better" which i was seduced into, the more he pushed my buttons or threatened to leave the stronger my resolve would be to be able to bear it unblinkingly, to impress him with my strength, win him back, jeez its all a waste of life and precious time. all the men ive been with since we split 10 years ago have been delightful, interesting and wild!! i soon realisd what a boring bastard id been stuck with for all thoese years, wearing me down, making me ill with worry and fear and exhausting any strength i ever managed to muster..seriously, RUN away unless you want your self esteem stamped on for the rest of your life. cos thats all they are good at-did i mention how boring they can be?
ReplyDeleteRUN AWAAAYYYY
I have been in a relationship with this guy whom I think is a sociopath. It seemed fine for a while until I realized what he was and what everyone else was trying to tell me. Everyone knows him but it isn't a good rep that he has, always negative things about him. He seemed like he cared though. All we did was spend time together and we kinda disappeared from other ppl. After a few months of being together he proposed to me and tried getting me pregnant till it happened. We started arguing alot. I didn't like how obsessed with sex he was with me. Hes always been a compulsive liar and he began lying to me about anything and everything including his age, that he was adopted, having a brother that died bc of him, stabbing himself bc I was going to leave him, and many other things even about little things that didn't make sense to lie about. When I confronted him he said he had to lie so I wouldn't leave him. He also is an adrenaline junkie and says he does stupid stuff so I won't lose interest in him. He did admit that he did things and used ppl but not me. I tried to change him and he never does. Every time I break up with him, he goes suicidal and wants another chance. Hes always hurt himself in little ways or through lies for ppl to feel sorry for him. He said he never tried to change b4 bc he couldn't trust me rite away and thought I was going to leave him. When I give him another chance he always goes back to his old ways. Hes hurt our relationship so many times. I didn't think he cared so I wanted to leave him for good even though I was preg,he wanted the baby and can't wait for her to be born but he still threatened to kill himself if I left and didn't care to ruin her future. He was obsessive and wouldn't leave me alone but think he just wanted me so no one else could and bc I actually cared unlike other ppl that didn't bc of his own actions. He started being a stalker. The only way to get rid of him was to move on to another guy so I did. I told him I had a sexual relationship with another guy and he flipped out. He overtook his meds and went looking for a gun, hes always done that stuff to get me back. While I was there he said he wanted to feel true love again and have sex. I told him no. He was also worried about the guy I was with bc he was a run around so he wanted to see if I got anything from him. He took my shorts off and said it looked like I had herpes now. It kinda looked like I did but I didn't know what to think. He then forced me to have sex with him so he could get it and so I couldn't leave him. Thats where we are now. He has the whole list of sociopath traits. Idk whether to leave him to end the anger, paranoia, and depression he seems to cause or not bc he really cares and wants this family and doesn't want me to leave. He lies to everyone, has always gotten into trouble wih the law doing drugs, gangs, theft, violence, enjoys hurting ppl, gave up his jobs bc I left him supposedly, never thinks things through and does the stupidest things to get attention or create a name for himself whatever hes thinking, and isn't really afraid or shy to anyone r anything. Idk what his real motives are and think hes just a fake. I want him to see that I love him but he can't change for nothing, it hurts to be with him anymore and can't deal with arguing bc of him. I can't trust him at all. What do you think he really wants from me, does he just care about himself and what should I do..
ReplyDeleteHello Anon on 14 April 2010 2.09pm. I am a sociopath, so will give you some insight. This guy does not sound like a sociopath at all, just a typical asshole. I think it is obvious he has feelings or you, and his emotional state in general seems very Bi-Polar. The self harm, the emotional tyrades, the crazy self destructive behaviour, and the fact that he has gone wild and is doing these things quite overtly in front of everyone, without trying to be more subtle, and so many other things you have described lead me to think that this guy is just a regular nutty ADHD Bi-Polar depressive type loon who has fallen in love with you. So not a sociopath. You have to ask yourself if you want to be involved in that chaotic lifestyle or not, and act accordingly. And finally, whats all this pissy pants thing about his being obsessed about sex with you, which you mention around the start of your post? What the hells wrong with that? Maybe thats part of what set him off- you dont like his obsession with fucking you. Well thats lame! Fucking is GOOOOOD. Maybe you should fuck him some more- its FUN. Anyway, do as you will, take it easy!! ;)
ReplyDeleteI have never been on this website before. I feel bad for you sociopath people. You have no souls. The quality of your lives is pointless. You live to manipulate and hurt others. You guys are all like a dog with rabies that can't be cured and shut be put down. Vicious, ugly, and empty. that emptiness must be a bummer. You must be jealous of regular human beings that feel. Even if your causing harm to another persons mind and spirit at least you are still causing them to feel something even if its bad. The best payback is to let you all suffer in your own empty emotionless hell. All of you girls putting way to much time into these fuckin losers should just leave them alone man. their lives are miserable, they are egotistical, and they aren't even really human if you think about it.
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This has been so insightful. I'm the victim of a master sociopath. I'm not even sure if he knows he is one, but I'll tell you the story anyway and see if anyone gives any feedback. This guy has a string of "psycho exes." Apparently, all his exes are nuts including me. However, let me know if you think he's one of you, because I could be misjudging. So, here goes. I met this guy through a friend, we were friends before we got together (for a whole three weeks), he was of course recovering from a relationship with one of those "psychos" I've already mentioned, who was also an acquaintance of mine. She always seemed miserable and a bit stalky, considering they had been broken up for two years. She followed him around alot and felt sorry for him to be trapped by her. I've since changed my tune considerably. We got together when I was drunk, although I did already quite fancy him. I remember him saying to me as we were getting it on "The thing I like about you, is that you've done loads of bad things, but you're just happy about it." I can't recall ever doing anything particularly awful, but I just laughed anyway (If only I'd read that sign). Anyway, we started a fleeting relationship. He came around to my house a couple of times and we had unsuccessful sex. After that, he made horrible comments about my body, which again I sort of ignored. I know I have a nice body, so it didn't really register. Then, things took a turn for the worse. We were out with our group of friends and socio-boy proceeded to feed me loads of drinks, so again, I was completely pissed (I know I could have refused the drinks and I'm responsible for my own behaviour, but I thought "What's the worst that can happen?"). Anyway, the ex was out and she saw that we were together and began crying. Socio-boy reacted to this by laughing at her (Again, I was blinded by this nutter, so ignored it). I tried to talk to the ex, but understandably, she told me to fuck off. To make matters worse,another mutual friend of ours was having problems with his girlfriend and somehow blamed socio-boy for their issues. Not sure about the truth there. Anyway, to cut a long story short, he dumped me after three weeks, I was devastated and afterwards, even if we were sat in the same room, I would feel like I was stalking him. He also said he couldn't remember ever sleeping with me. Made me feel like crap. Also, afterwards he and the upset ex pretended to be a couple in front of me, knowing I'd be upset. He's also best friends with my sister's fiance and best man at their wedding. They went away together last christmas and he asked me if I wanted to cook them a dinner the following Sunday as friends. I said yes. Anyway, Sunday arrived and no dinner invitation materialised. I askedim about this and he said "I neve even thought that dinner was on, leave me alone." I can't stand to be anywhere near him incase he tries to wind me up again. However, nerve janglingly, he now has a new girlfriend and I am ofcourse the "psyho ex" and new girlfriend has a son the same age as my neice. Socio-boy has been arranging to spend couples time with my sister (who is, by the way, my twin and best friend, my neice and brother in law. I ofcourse find this situation really difficult, because not only has this guy played me like a fiddle, he's suckered in my family! HOW CAN I GET HIM TO FUCK OFF? Answers on a postcard please?
ReplyDeleteDrowning Psycho- I've been there. I even ended up marrying the guy just to go through more hell than I would ever wish on anyone. I was controlled by the sex too. It really came down to the fact that I knew and felt I was being used and felt I deserved better. I refused to let him treat me as a whore that he could use whenever he wanted and then toss in the trash afterwards. I also had a son with him that became more important than my desires. I still deal with him in court and restraining orders to this day because I won't go back and I know he would love to destroy me if he can't use me. My advice: Love yourself and get away before something worse happens! You deserve to be loved and treated with dignity and respect!
ReplyDeleteI was dumped by my sociopath 2 days ago. He thinks he's in control at the moment by not talking to me. But I have something he wants and I want vengeance. How do I play this out? Wait for his return and when he dies shut him down once? Or do I accept his first terms to meet up? That should say * does but I can't correct it.... I want to get in this guys head. Play with him a bit. Any advice?
ReplyDeleteYou're retarded.
DeleteMy bf dumped me last Tuesday, refuses to speak to me or respond to any texts. I caught him in an inappropriate relationship with another woman- old the woman's husband and now I'm the reason for the whole demise.... He saw me out last Thursday, came to where I was, walked in and acted as though I never existed!!! I lived with him less than a week ago!?!? I have no closure, have sent a couple messages asking why can't we be adults and telling him he still had some of my things.... No response. I dont know what to do, if I want him back, or even how to get closure from him?? Any advice?
ReplyDeleteBtw- we also had a GREAT sex life, but he started to deny me that as well towards the end. His family says to not expect conversation from him, when he's done- he's done. There were times when we'd have problems, that we would make up with sex- usually by my persistence....
Any answers would be nice..... Left in limbo!
@ anon march 11
ReplyDeleteWhy do you care?
Your're an empath looking for answers.
He's a sociopath who moved on and forgot about you.
That's it.
Simple as that.
Crying won't give you any resolution nor will talking to him about what "you're feeling." In HIS mind - there is no problem so there, again, will be no resolution so ...move on. Dismiss your trivial emotions and research this site if you want an general understanding of things. You will discover you are were pathetic and you will appreciate the insight from this blog site. I wish you the best. I hope since your comment was from month ago things turned out for the better. Take what you precieve as tragedy and make use of it.
my testimony goes to ultimate spell temple,me and my ex breakup 4 months ago and she told me that she dont love me any more and went to be with another guy.i was still in love with her and need her back i try to get her back but all my effort was in vail until i reach out to the internet for help and i saw a testimony of a spell caster,i decided to give it a try and i contacted him and tell him my problem.He cast a love spell for me and guarantee me of three days that my ex will come back to me and to my greatest suprise my ex come back to me and beg for forgiveness and promise never to live me again,i am so happy my ex is back to me again,thank you ultimate spell for reuniting me and my ex back together again.if you need him to help you Email ultimatespelltemple@gmail.com
ReplyDeleteWhat about a sociopath "friend" from your past, who looks you up on-line and is able to manipulate you so well b/c they know all your vulnerabilities from having been a childhood "friend" and even a childhood "confidante". You of course have no idea they are a sociopath so you are happy to hear from them and renew the friendship. Then they subtly, systematically find your current weakness and manipulate you to basically sink to their level before turning on you and hypocritically trying to take the moral high ground because many years ago you once took the moral high ground with them? Do sociopaths hold on to grudges that long? Do they look up people on-line now that perhaps unintentionally made them feel like a "loser" somehow just to destroy them later so they can feel like a "winner"?
ReplyDeleteI should clarify why the question above is on a page about seduction. I turned down this friends sexual advances and promises to leave his family for me many, many, many years ago. He basically seduced me into seducing him if that makes sense so he could blow me off ... lol. I have to laugh about it. He is freaking genius and I am a dumbass b/c I saw red flags but there was more at work than his brilliance, we had (oops ... I had) an emotional bond from childhood that was easy for him to tap. I am more upset about the fond memories he shattered than anything else.
ReplyDeleteFirst off, I would like to say that I think you are a wonderful man. You are a truly an inspiration by the way you help people. The spell you cast to make Harry realize his feelings for me worked faster than I could have hoped for. He came to me the other night and told me everything I had been hoping to hear. I can not thank you more now I can finally stop crying tears of pain and cry tears of joy! He is wonderful to me. Ancientspiritualtemple@gmail.com
DeleteFirst off, I would like to say that I think you are a wonderful man. You are a truly an inspiration by the way you help people. The spell you cast to make Harry realize his feelings for me worked faster than I could have hoped for. He came to me the other night and told me everything I had been hoping to hear. I can not thank you more now I can finally stop crying tears of pain and cry tears of joy! He is wonderful to me. Ancientspiritualtemple@gmail.com
ReplyDeleteMy Name is JANE.I will love to share my testimony to all the people in the forum cos i never thought i will have my girlfriend back and she means so much to me..The girl i want to get marry to left me 4 weeks to our wedding for another man..,When i called her she never picked my calls,She deleted me on her facebook and she changed her facebook status from married to Single...when i went to her to her place of work she told her boss she never want to see me..I lost my job as a result of this cos i cant get myself anymore,my life was upside down and everything did not go smooth with my life...I tried all i could do to have her back to all did not work out until i met a Man when i Travel to Africa to execute some business have been developing some years back..I told him my problem and all have passed through in getting her back and how i lost my job...he told me he gonna help me...i don't believe that in the first place.but he swore he will help me out and he told me the reason why my girlfriend left me and also told me some hidden secrets.i was amazed when i heard that from him..he said he will cast a spell for me and i will see the results in the next couple of days..then i travel back to US the following day and i called him when i got home and he said he's busy casting those spells and he has bought all the materials needed for the spells,he said am gonna see positive results in the next 2 days that is Thursday...My girlfriend called me at exactly 12:35pm on Thursday and apologies for all she had done ..she said,she never knew what she's doing and her sudden behavior was not intentional and she promised not to do that again.it was like am dreaming when i heard that from her and when we ended the call,i called the man and told him my wife called and he said i haven't seen anything yet... he said i will also get my job back in 3 days time..and when its Sunday,they called me at my place of work that i should resume working on Monday and they gonna compensate me for the time limit have spent at home without working..My life is back into shape,i have my girlfriend back and we are happily married now with kids and i have my job back too.This man is really powerful..if we have up to 20 people like him in the world,the world would have been a better place..he has also helped many of my friends to solve many problems and they are all happy now..Am posting this to the forum for anybody that is interested in meeting the man for help.you can mail him to johnyiyi@rocketmail.com I cant give out his number cos he told me he don't want to be disturbed by many people across the world..he said his email is okay and he' will replied to any emails asap..hope he helped u out too..good luck:johnyiyi@rocketmail.com.ONCE AGAIN HIS EMAIL ADDRESS IS: johnyiyi@rocketmail.com
ReplyDeleteMy Name is Mrs. peter blassing, I was married to my husband for 10 years and we were both bless with three children, living together as one love, until 2011 when things was no longer the way the was [when he lost his job]. But when he later gets a new job 6 months after, he stated sleeping outside our matrimonial home. Only for me to find out that he was having an affair with the lady that gave he the job. since that day, when i called him, he don't longer pick up my calls and he nothing since to come out good. Yet my husbands just still keep on seeing the lady. Until I met a very good friend of my who was also having a similar problem, who introduced me to a very good love spell caster. But i told her that if it has to do with things that i am not interested, but she said that it has nothing to do with pay first. but the only thing he was ask to do was just to go and buy the items to cast the spell, and that was what she did. And she gave me the spell caster e-mail address and phone number. When i contacted him, i was so surprise when he said that if i have the faith that i will get my husband back in the nest three [3] day, and off which it was really so. but i was so shock that i did not pay any thing to Prophet Osula Ogwa but my husband was on his knells begging me and the children for forgiveness. This testimony is just the price i have to pay. This man Prophet Osula Ogwa is good and he is the author of my happiness. His e-mail address: johnyiyi@rocketmail.com
ReplyDeleteI recently have a good luck spell cast on me by Dr. John Yi Yi and I want anyone to tell me how it use to work because still I had this spell cast on me different companies has been coming to me for me to work with them and I do not really know which of the companies is the right one for me and I’m so happy because since last 7months I lost my job and I have been looking for job and I was unable to get one for myself till I had this spell cast on me so is there anyone that can advice me on which of the companies that is right for me? And I also thank Dr. John Yi Yi for his help too anyone in need of help with spell I will advise you to contact him on this email: johnyiyi@rocketmail.com
ReplyDeleteI recently have a good luck spell cast on me by Dr. John Yi Yi and I want anyone to tell me how it use to work because still I had this spell cast on me different companies has been coming to me for me to work with them and I do not really know which of the companies is the right one for me and I’m so happy because since last 7months I lost my job and I have been looking for job and I was unable to get one for myself till I had this spell cast on me so is there anyone that can advice me on which of the companies that is right for me? And I also thank Dr. John Yi Yi for his help too anyone in need of help with spell I will advise you to contact him on this email: johnyiyi@rocketmail.com
ReplyDeleteMy ex-boyfriend dumped me 4 months ago after I accused him of seeing someone else and insulting him.I want him back in my life but he refuse to have any contact with me.I was so confuse and don't know what to do,so I reach to the internet for help and I saw a testimony of how a spell caster help them to get their ex back so I contact the spell caster and explain my problem to him and he cast a spell for me and assure me of 3days that my ex will return to me and to my greatest surprise the third day my ex came knocking on my door and beg for forgiveness.I am so happy that my love is back again and not only that,we are about to get married.once again thank you Dr. John Yi Yi spell.you are truly talented and gifted. Email: johnyiyi@rocketmail.com is the only answer.he can be of great help and I will not stop publishing him because he is a wonderful man
ReplyDeleteIt sounds strange to me that i am living happy after all i have been through in life with 4 different false spell caster who ripped me off my hard earned money. Linda left me for a far more younger man and since then my world has been falling apart. I have been through the hands of 4 false spell casters but they all lied to me until i had a chat with Brian that introduced me to johnyiyi@rocketmail.com . I never wanted to contact this man because i thought that he is like the others who will do the same thing and drive me insane. I gave him a trail after believing in Brian's words that he will tender his resignation if this one fails, to my greatest surprise, he did the spell for me and Linda came knocking on my door four days after i contacted Prophet of Goddess. I will forever be grateful to his good works because he restored my lost happiness and i am happy today because of his good work. Contact him in any problem on his email address:johnyiyi@rocketmail.com , he is always there to assist you.
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ReplyDeleteI am Miss Wacks.,From united states of America.I will start by saying to all that have experience heart break and also cant do with out there lover should please stop here and read up my story, So as you will know how to go solving or getting your ex back from this spell caster..AND AGAIN I WILL WANT TO ALSO TELL ALL THAT THIS SPELL CASTER I WILL WANT TO TELL THE WHOLE WORLD ABOUT IS HARMLESS AND DO NOT HAVE ANY SIDE EFFECT, BUT TO RESTORE AND GIVE YOU BACK WHAT YOU DESERVE, COS WHEN I MEET WITH THIS SPELL CASTER THAT WAS INTRODUCED TO ME BY THE WIFE OF MY BOSS IN MY WORKING PLACE, HE MADE IT CLEAR THAT HE CAN CAST SPELL ON SO MANY OTHER PROBLEMS EXCEPT IN GETTING YOUR EX OR MAKING YOUR LOVER TO LOVE YOU MORE THAT WILL SUITE YOU. Last year December, My lover was cheating on me and was not also give me the attention that a man should give to a woman,And really that was troubling my mind and tearing my heart apart to the extent that i was not concentrating in the office the way i use to before the break up by my lover.And before that incident,I always see how my boss use to love his wife so much. I was binging to think that i was not doing the right thing to him that will make him love me forever,So i really gathered my courage and went to my boss wife office to ask her the secret that made her husband love her so dearly,In the first place she refused in telling me,She asked me why i am asking her such a question,That if is it not normal for every man to love his wife.I told her the reason that made me ask her about this question,That my lover started cheating on me lately,When i knelt down before her for her to see my seriousness in this issue that i went to ask her,She opened up to me by telling me that i should not tell anybody about what she want to tell me,The wife to my boss started to say to me that she used a very powerful spell on his husband to love her,And the spell that she used is harmless, But the spell is just to make him love her and never to look for any other woman except her. I QUICKLY ASK HER HOW DID SHE GET TO KNOW THIS GREAT,POWER,DURABLE AND PERFECT WORK SPELL CASTER,she said that a friend of hers also introduce her to him. Then i also ask her how i can meet with this spell caster.SHE SAID EVERYTHING TO ME,THAT THE NAME OF THIS SPELL CASTER IS JOHN YIYI ORACLE TEMPLE.My next question to her was how can i get this wonderful spell caster,She said she is going to give me the email of the spell caster for me to contact him for my problem,Really she gave to me this spell caster email and i contacted him and explained all to him,And after every thing that needed to be done by the spell caster, In the next two days, My lover that hated me so much came to house begging for forgiveness and i was so glad that i have finally gotten my heart desire..I was so grateful to this spell caster for what he has done for my life.. So i made a promise to him that i will always continue telling the world about his wonderful work towards me and also to other that came to you before and also the people that will also get to you from my story that i narrated online now..I will want to say to the entire world that you should not cry over noting again, That there is a great man that has been helping individuals to restore there Joy and smile in there faces !! The direct email to get this man is : johnyiyi@rocketmail.com ,This is what i want to tell you all out there,That is thinking that all hope is lost ok..Thanks
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I will love to share my testimony to all my friends because i never believe i will have my girlfriend back. When i called her she never picked my calls,She deleted me on her Facebook and she changed her Facebook status.when i went to her to her place of work she told her friends she never want to see me.I tried all i could do to have her back with me but all did not work out until i met a Man when i Travel to Africa to meet my aunt.I told her my problem and i all have passed through in getting her back and how she embarrass me in her place of work,he told me he is going to help me but don’t believe that in the first place.but he swore he will help me out and he told me the reason why my girlfriend left me and also told me some hidden secrets.i was amazed when i heard that from him,he said he will cast a spell for me and i will see the results in the next couple of days..then i travel back home the following day and i called him when i got home,he said he is busy casting those spells and he has bought all the materials needed for the spells,he said am gonna see positive results in the next 3 days that is Thursday. My girlfriend called me at exactly 10:35am on Thursday and apologies for all she had done, she said she never knew what she’s doing she promised not to do that again.It was like am hallucinating when i heard that from her and when we ended the call,i called the man and told him my girlfriend called me on phone apologies. Am posting this to the forum for everybody that is interested in meeting the man for help this is his email address :alomaspelltemple@gmail.com All i have to say is THANK YOU DOCTOR
ReplyDeleteI really am grateful for relationship therapist oniha of the win ex back spell for all his services through mail. He has helped me a lot over this last month when i was so confuse on how to win back my lovely girl after having her upset and she ran away from me,i do not no what to do so i turn to winexbackspell@gmail.com for help on how to win her back again,he told me what to do. I followed his spell casting thought and things are going ok for me now. My Confidence is a lot better now. We are on speaking terms again and we are going out this weekend after she finishes work. I am so pleased and happy.
ReplyDeleteWhen I married my husband I was already pregnant and so I didn't have a job. He had a really good job though so I was able to stay home and take care of our son when it was born. When we had our second child we moved to a bigger house, but then strange things started to happen. Things would fly off the walls and doors would slam at night. Our oldest son talked about seeing figures and hearing voices. We consulted a medium and they said the house was haunted. After living there about a year more with only minor occurrences we moved out. That was when the bad luck started to happen. Everything started to fail, with my husband's job, our money and our luck in general. I went back to the same medium and they told me that a spirit had followed me and placed a curse upon me for disturbing it and not being respectful in the previous house. He tried to remove it but was unable. The misfortune kept going on and getting more severe as I tried to search out someone to break the curse. But when I found Dr OMO spell he finally did it. Things started turning around almost immediately after he cast the spell and have been great from there! This was really a miracle for us, thank you Dr OMO spell from the bottom of my heart! Contact: alteroffiretemple@gmail.com
ReplyDeleteHello readers,
Deletemy name is Jim mike,i want to testify the goodness of Dr Okoase for helping me to recover my ex and my job back,i must say he is indeed a great spell caster.sir i also want to tell you that very soon we are getting married.
Please help me thank him on his email: templeofgreatspell@gmail.com and also if you need his help.sir i will be coming again to order another spell from you,but this time is no longer love spell nor job spell,but money spell.Please sir keep your good work because people need your helping hand.please help he to thank him or in case you need his assistance,you can as well reach him o his email: templeofgreatspell@gmail.com
Hello readers,
ReplyDeletemy name is Jim mike,i want to testify the goodness of Dr Okoase for helping me to recover my ex and my job back,i must say he is indeed a great spell caster.sir i also want to tell you that very soon we are getting married.
Please help me thank him on his email: templeofgreatspell@gmail.com and also if you need his help.sir i will be coming again to order another spell from you,but this time is no longer love spell nor job spell,but money spell.Please sir keep your good work because people need your helping hand.please help he to thank him or in case you need his assistance,you can as well reach him o his email: templeofgreatspell@gmail.com
ReplyDelete"I love that Triple Strength Love obsession.... we are back together it worked that next day.... my neighbor down the street said he kept driving up and down the street. He called and me and i acted surprise to hear from him. He said he kept thinking of me so bad he couldn't sleep right nor think straight... I don't know how you did it (Dr Ekaka), ekakaspelltemple@yahoo.com but you helped me. Bless you!"
ReplyDeleteI was crushed when my lover of three years left to be with another woman. I cried and sobbed every day, until it got so bad that I reached out to the Internet for help.And i saw a testimony of a spell caster who help a girl called michelle and i said let me give it a try so i contact him for help and he cast a love spell for me which i use in getting my love back and now i am a happy woman.Foe what you have done for me,i will not stop to share your goodness to people out there for the good work you are doing.I hope God blesses you as much as you have help me to get my Love back,visit him on ultimatespelltemple@gmail.com,he is the only answer to your problems ultimatespelltemple@gmail.com
ReplyDeleteI am basically writing you back to give you all of my thanks. Ever since I finished working on the first kit (Love Me Again), my results have been excellent. All I can say is YES, YES YES!! You have been a great help to me and very patient as well. That is so important. When people start working on things that are new to them, there is so much that they don't know. Especially since working on such kits you are calling on spirits for help and you don't want to make any mistakes because you're afraid that anything could go wrong if the work is not done right (such as myself) and I know that I have questioned you a lot. I can admit that I was having some doubts at first and that I was just hoping that this relationship could be helped due to all of the negativity in the relationship. Now I know that there was help and hope for us once again. You have been the best as far as love spell is concern and responding to questions in a timely manner. And I can also tell that you as the support staff are very bright and well educated people. I just wanted to leave you with this note. But mainly you. Even though I know that there are other spell caster, you have been the one that i have really seen a good result from the casting of the spell....thanks once again {Dr Ekaka} ekakaspelltemple@yahoo.com
ReplyDeleteHello dr,kokotemple. I recieved an order from you a couple of months ago. I would just like to thank you very much as both talismans have really helped me. I had ordered the Mystique Talisman and the Spirit Calling Talisman which have both been very effective. I will be in touch within the next few weeks to order some more items from you. Meantime once gain many thanks to you and your special powers.his email address is dr,kokotemple@gmail.com
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Dr.kokotemple, and friends, I wanted to give you an update on my situation. On Feb 14, 2006 I requested a binding love spell be cast on my boyfriend. His eyes roamed to any woman that passed us and it made me feel horrible. I am happy to report that a week after I requested the spell he proposed to me. We have been married for a year now, are expecting our first child in Nov. 2009 and he no longer has eyes for any other woman. I was greatly impressed with the fast results and the personal attention I was shown during the casting and beyond.he is real a good spell caster email dr.kokotemple@gmail.com
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When I married my husband I was already pregnant and so I didn't have a job. He had a really good job though so I was able to stay home and take care of our son when it was born. When we had our second child we moved to a bigger house, but then strange things started to happen. Things would fly off the walls and doors would slam at night. Our oldest son talked about seeing figures and hearing voices. We consulted a medium and they said the house was haunted. After living there about a year more with only minor occurrences we moved out. That was when the bad luck started to happen. Everything started to fail, with my husband's job, our money and our luck in general. I went back to the same medium and they told me that a spirit had followed me and placed a curse upon me for disturbing it and not being respectful in the previous house. He tried to remove it but was unable. The misfortune kept going on and getting more severe as I tried to search out someone to break the curse. But when I found Dr.dodogods spell he finally did it. Things started turning around almost immediately after he cast the spell and have been great from there! This was really a miracle for us, thank you Dr.dodogods spell from the bottom of my heart!
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i am mary and i want to thank Dr.rivers for bringing back my ex boyfriend, we broke up for more than 8 month and he told me that he will never want to see me in his life again. i love him so much to the extend that i could not think of deating any man again, i was confused and depress due to the love i had for him.i did everything i could do to have him come back to me but all went in vain. so i decided to contact a spell caster, i did not believe in spell casting i just want to try it may be it would work out for me. i contacted dr rivers for help,and he told me that he have to cast a love spell on him, i told him to do it. after 5 days my boyfriend called me and started to apologize for leaving me and also he told me that he still love me. i was very happy and i thank dr rivers for helping get back my ex back to my hands. his spell is the greatest of all over the world, it was the love spell he cast on my ex that make him come back to me. all you ladies who want back their ex back i want you to contact Dr.rivers for the return of your ex boyfriend and also your ex girlfriend he can also cast any kind of spell you want him to cast for you. his contact email is dr.rivershebalisthome@gmail.com just try him and their will be a solution to your case.
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churchofproblemsolved, Thank you! My husband stopped to fill the divorice papers and things are going much better now. As you said, I think that with time everything will be as it was before he met that evil woman. It's good she's out of the way now. God Bless You. you can also contact him at churchofproblemsolvedchurch@yahoo.com
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This powerful White magic love spell is tailored to bring your lover back in your arms permanently and with no delay. I use the best spell casting techniques to make your lover come home. This spell is customized to your situation and deals specifically with the barriers that have risen between you and your ex-partner. One by one, all obstacles will be removed until your lover realizes that leaving you was a mistake and desire nothing but coming back into your arms.you can also contact him in is email
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I found a great spell caster online who helped me to get back my husband who has left me for pass 3 years. we where married for 8years without a child and my friend introduce me to a real spell caster named Dr.Kamar which i never believe it exist but after the meeting of this spell caster my problem where solved and now i am with my husband who left me for pass three years my life and my entire family are now happy now i have two kids with the help of this great spell caster. thanks to odulduspelltemple and i will advice anyone in need of help to contact him with this email: alomaspelltemple@gmail.com
My name is Jessica Ruiz from Florida I have to give this miraculous testimony, which is so unbelievable until now. I had a problem with my Ex husband 2years ago, which lead to our break up. when he broke up with me, I was not my self again, i felt so empty inside me, my love and financial situation became worst, until a close friend of mine Lucy told me about a spell caster who helped her in the same problem too his name is Dr Shiva. I email Dr Shiva the spell caster and i told him my problem and i did what he asked of me, to cut the long story short. Before i knew what was happening my husband gave me a call and told me that he was coming back to me in just 2days and was so happy to have him back to me. We have two kids together and we are happy with ourselves. Thanks to Dr Shiva for saving my relationship and for also saving others own too. continue your good work, If you are interested to contact him and testify this blessings like me, the great spell caster email address is hinduspelltemple@yahoo.com you are the best among all the spell caster online I hope you see my testimonies and also pray for my family too.
ReplyDeleteMy name is Jessica Ruiz from Florida I have to give this miraculous testimony, which is so unbelievable until now. I had a problem with my Ex husband 2years ago, which lead to our break up. when he broke up with me, I was not my self again, i felt so empty inside me, my love and financial situation became worst, until a close friend of mine Lucy told me about a spell caster who helped her in the same problem too his name is Dr Shiva. I email Dr Shiva the spell caster and i told him my problem and i did what he asked of me, to cut the long story short. Before i knew what was happening my husband gave me a call and told me that he was coming back to me in just 2days and was so happy to have him back to me. We have two kids together and we are happy with ourselves. Thanks to Dr Shiva for saving my relationship and for also saving others own too. continue your good work, If you are interested to contact him and testify this blessings like me, the great spell caster email address is: hinduspelltemple@yahoo.com you are the best among all the spell caster online I hope you see my testimonies and also pray for my family too.
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DeleteI met this spell through a friends description and he told me that he help him to get his wife back when another man took her from him and then i decided to try him out and i discover that he is the best and he is very powerful and just yesterday my husband whom i thought will never come back to me came and said to me that he was sorry for leaving me. i am now so happy that my desire have been fulfilled. thank to the Dr.Zack Balo of the wiseindividualspell@gmail.com he is so powerful.
Eric seems to realize that it would be a mistake to divorce. He came back home yesterday!!! Said he couldn’t live without me. I’m so happy!! I have been waiting on her since February. I can’t say what I feel, my heart is about to explode, I feel as I’m living again. Thank you from the bottom of my heart Dr. Lee contact him via: Ancientfathersandmothers@gmail.com
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DeleteMy situation was hopeless me and my husband was on the verge of divorce. I was in a awful state and felt that I was not able to cope with life any longer. I found Dr.Muku Love Spells and tried one. Well, he did return and now we are doing well again, more than ever i so much believe in him email to contact him is here below mukumukushrine@gmail.com
ReplyDeletei just want to share my experience and testimony here.. i was married for 6 years to my husband and all of a sudden, another woman came into the picture.. he started hailing me and he was abusive..but i still loved him with all my heart and wanted him at all cost?then he filed for divorce..my whole life was turning apart and i didn't know what to do..he moved out of the house and abandoned the kids.. so someone told me about trying spiritual means to get my husband back and introduced me to a spell caster?so i decided to try it reluctantly..although i didn't believe in all those things? then when he did the special prayers and spell, after 2days, my husband came back and was pleading..he had realized his mistakes..i just couldn't believe it.. anyways we are back together now and we are happy..in case anyone needs this man, his email address prophetsalifu@gmail.com, his spells is for a better life. again his email is prophetsalifu@gmail.com
DeleteI will love to share my testimony to all the people in the forum cos i never thought i will have my girlfriend back and she means so much to me..The girl i want to get marry to left me 4 weeks to our weeding for
another man..,When i called her she never picked my calls, She deleted me on her facebook and she changed her facebook status from married to Single...when i went to her place of work she told her boss she never want to see me..i lost my job as a result of this cos i cant get myself anymore,my life was upside down and everything did not go smooth with my life...I tried all i could do to have her back to all did not work out until i met a Man Dr.Zack Balo when i Travel to Africa to execute some business have been developing some years back..I told him my problem and all have passed through in getting her back and how i lost my job...he told me he gonna help me...i don't believe that in the first place.but he swore
he will help me out and he told me the reason why my girlfriend left me and also told me some hidden secrets.i was amazed when i heard that from him..he said he will cast a spell for me and i will see the results in the next couple of days..then i travel back to US the following day and i called him when i got home and he said he's busy casting those spells and he has bought all the items needed for the spells,he said am gonna see positive results in the next 2 days that is Thursday...My girlfriend called me at exactly 12:25pm on Thursday and apologies for all she had done ..she said,she never knew what she's doing and her sudden behavior was not intentional and she promised not to do that again.it was like am dreaming
when i heard that from her and when we ended the call,i called the man and told him my wife called and he said i haven't seen anything yet... he said i will also get my job back in 3 days time..and when its Sunday,they called me at my place of work that i should resume working on Monday and they gonna compensate me for the time limit have spent at home without working..My life is back into shape,i have my girlfriend back and we are happily married now with kids and i have my job back too.This man is really
powerful..if we have up to 20 people like him in the world,the world would have been a better place..he has also helped many of my friends to solve many problems and they are all happy now..Am posting this to the forum for anybody that is interested in meeting the man for help. his email is ( wiseindividualspell@gmail.com) i cant give out his number cos he told me he don't want to be disturbed by many people across the world.. he said his email wiseindividualspell@gmail.com is okay and he' will replied to any emails asap.. hope he helped u out too..good luck
Hello my name is Miss rose juckin, I’m from Brazil. I want to inform you all that there is a spell caster that is genuine and real.I never really believed in any of these things but when I was losing Jackson, I needed help and somewhere to turn badly. I found consultant.Templeoflive@gmail. com and i ordered a LOVE SPELL. Several days later, my phone rang. Jackson was his old self again and wanted to come back to me! Not only come back, the spell caster opened him up to how much I loved and needed him. Spell Casting isn’t brainwashing, but they opened his eyes to how much we have to share together. I recommend anyone who is in my old situation to try it. It will bring you a wonderful surprises as well as your lover back to you. The way things were meant to be.” you can contact the spell caster on– templeoflive@gmail.com he’s very nice and great.
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ReplyDeleteMY NAME grant FROM HOUSTON,TEXAS.I NEVER BELIEVED IN LOVE SPELLS OR MAGIC UNTIL I MET THIS SPELL CASTER ONCE WHEN I WENT TO AFRICA IN DECEMBER LAST YEAR ON A BUSINESS SUMMIT. HE IS REALLY POWERFUL AND COULD HELP CAST SPELLS TO BRING BACK ONE'S GONE,LOST,MISBEHAVING LOVER LOOKING FOR SOME ONE TO LOVE YOU, BRING BACK LOST MONEY AND MAGIC MONEY SPELL OR SPELL FOR A GOOD JOB.I'M NOW HAPPY & A LIVING TESTIMONY COS THE MAN I HAD WANTED TO MARRY LEFT ME 2 WEEKS BEFORE OUR WEDDING AND MY LIFE WAS UPSIDE DOWN COS OUR RELATIONSHIP HAS BEEN ON FOR 2YEARS... I REALLY LOVED HIM, BUT HIS MOTHER WAS AGAINST US AND HE HAD NO GOOD PAYING JOB. SO WHEN I MET THIS SPELL CASTER, I TOLD HIM WHAT HAPPENED AND EXPLAINED THE SITUATION OF THINGS TO HIM..AT FIRST I WAS UNDECIDED,SKEPTICAL AND DOUBTFUL, BUT I JUST GAVE IT A TRY. AND IN 7 DAYS WHEN I RETURNED TO TEXAS, MY BOYFRIEND (NOW HUSBAND) CALLED ME BY HIMSELF AND CAME TO ME APOLOGIZING THAT EVERYTHING HAD BEEN SETTLED WITH HIS MOM AND FAMILY AND HE GOT A NEW JOB INTERVIEW SO WE SHOULD GET MARRIED..I DIDN'T BELIEVE IT COS THE SPELL CASTER ONLY ASKED FOR MY NAME AND MY BOYFRIENDS NAME AND ALL I WANTED HIM TO DO... WELL WE ARE HAPPILY MARRIED NOW AND WE ARE EXPECTING OUR LITTLE KID,AND MY HUSBAND ALSO GOT THE NEW JOB AND OUR LIVES BECAME MUCH BETTER. IN CASE ANYONE NEEDS THE SPELL CASTER FOR SOME HELP, HIS EMAIL ADDRESS IS:drjames897@yahoo.com ......HOPE HE HELPS YOU OUT. HURRY NOW AND CONTACT HIM NOW VIA EMAIL ADDRES> drjames897@yahoo.com
Hello readers,my name is blessing oaike,i wanna share a testimony of a mega spell caster who help me bring my ex boyfriend back.I broke up with my ex since last month hoping that we will get back again but things was getting worse until someone directed me to a great spell caster who cast a reuniting spell for me without collecting any money from me for his work.the most thing that suprise me about this spell caster is that everything happened the way he said it going to happen, i have never believed in spell caster before but Dr Okoase make me to believed that he is still real. i must say he is indeed a great spell caster.And i know he can still help you,and is a sin if i should go out without dropping the email of this great spell caster,please contact him on his email: templeofgreatspell@gmail.com once you contact him your problems will be over.Once more i say a big thanks to you for helping me recover my ex back.once more contact him and thank him on my behalf through his contact address: templeofgreatspell@gmail.com
ReplyDeleteI contacted Dr. Lee, because someone that I loved the most suddenly left me. I have always been the one that has been hurt. I knew that when I first met him, he was the one I have always been looking for. For some reason he's been holding on to the pain from a past relationship. Dr. Lee so far has been in contact with me every day and has decided that he will take my case. He told me that me and the guy was very well matched and he will help clear his mind from all the negativity. He did all that and now we are now both happy together again. Thank you Dr. Lee. Thank you for choosing my case. Thank you for giving me hope again. Email Ancientfathersandmothers@gmail.com
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ReplyDeleteI am Queen from Canada,my boyfriend left me for the past 3 years,i try all my best to get him,my effort was in vine.we both love our self.my best friend Vivian was very jealous because we both love each other.she contacted a white witch.and she make me to be very seek.during the period that i was sick,she snatch my loving boy friend from me,when i had that she have snatch my lovely boy i became more sick and i almost lost my life,not knowing that she also bewitch my lovely guy(Micheal)so i read a magazine on how Dr Sang help people to cure their sickness and help to unite relationship as well,i contacted him immediately,and told him my sickness and about my boyfriend,shortly he right to me and told me my girlfriend was behind all my problems,that she contacted a white witch.to snatch my guy and make me to be sick,he cure my sickness within a week and he also cast a spell that bring back my lovely boyfriend.and broke away the white witch.The only thing he as me to do is to share my testimony to the world.now i am so comfortable with my relationship.this man was godsend to me and he also make my dreams comes true,we are happily married with a bouncing baby boy.thinks to the great prophet Walter, his email is Sangospelltemple@gmail.com he is 100% real and ready to solve any problem you encounter.magic is real,believe it..
my lover is back with the great help of priest okdou he help me cast a spell that brought her back to my arms, in just one days. my lover left me with our only kid and now they are back, once again i want to thank priest okodu for his wonderful spell am now a happy man. you can contact the great spell caster on his email: okoduspelltemple@yahoo.com
ReplyDeleteDr. Lee I was at my wit's end with trying to get my boyfriend to commit to our relationship fully. I had tried everything I knew, but what I DIDN'T know was that all I had to do was come to you, and with your blessings and special magic powers, I wouldn't have to do all the work at all. I got my life and my love back and now all in my life is balanced and happy again. You do a great service to people, and I don't think many people as should know about you. Your talented and give of yourself so freely like you did to me. Thank you for weaving your magic love spells for me and Steve. It's back to just the way it was when we first met, and we're coming up on our fourth anniversary now! Ancientfathersandmothers@gmail.com
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ReplyDeleteThis is a testimony that i will tell to every one to hear. i have been married four 4years and on the fifth year of my marriage, another woman had a spell to take my lover away from me and my husband left me and the kids and we have suffered for 2years until i met a post where this man Dr Sango have helped someone and i decided to give him a try to help me bring my lover back home and believe me i just send my picture to him and that of my husband and after 48hours as he have told me, i saw a car drove into the house and behold it was my husband and he have come to me and the kids and that is why i am happy to make every one of you in similar to met with this man and have your lover back to your self. His email: sangospelltemple@gmail.com
i just want to share my experience and testimony here.. i was married for 6 years to my husband and all of a sudden, another woman came into the picture.. he started hailing me and he was abusive..but i still loved him with all my heart and wanted him at all cost…then he filed for divorce..my whole life was turning apart and i didn’t know what to do..he moved out of the house and abandoned the kids.. so someone told me about trying spiritual means to get my husband back and introduced me to a spell caster…so i decided to try it reluctantly..although i didn’t believe in all those things… then when he did the special prayers and spell, after 2days, my husband came back and was pleading..he had realized his mistakes..i just couldn’t believe it..anyways we are back together now and we are happy..in case anyone needs this man, his email address abuluspiritualtemple@yahoo.com his spells is for a better life. again his email is abuluspiritualtemple@yahoo.com
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ReplyDeleteHello every one i want to share my testimony how i got my husband back, my husband left my and my 2 kids and go for an other woman, when i saw both of them my heart was broken down, i told my best friend who was also having the same problem long time ago, she help me by given me Dr sambol contact and i email drsambolspelltemple01@gmail.com, he told me what to do after the casting of the love spell my husband that left home for 4 month run home and was asking for my forgiveness. thank you drsambolspelltemple01@gmail.com for building my marriage contact him he can also be of help to you.
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ReplyDeleteMike was the love of my life and walked out on me after I cheated on him twice with his best friend. I don’t know why I did it and going back to it, it wasn’t even all that great (lol). His best friend was an asshole and really screwed us. I was the horrible person and the weak person however and gave in to him. It was not fair to Mike and I cannot even imagine how it feels. Except…I imagine SORT OF IT BEING…similar…to the situation of him walking out on me. I know what I did was wrong but it was not planned. I wanted another chance. I knew we were meant to be. With ayelala shrine spell and ultimate psychics…I did finally get my second chance. They are great, worked with me through it all and the results I could clearly tell were nearly instantly working for me. It wasn’t long or horrible like the other casters I have tried. These people are for real! Give them a shot. You may post this on your new site, ou have my blessing” ayelalashrine@gmail.com is the answer
Ass to mouth. Lol Priceless. :p
ReplyDeleteEnjoy your lies. I don't know how you can stand going at the same puppet show all your lives, it tends to become repetitive after a while.
ReplyDeleteI guess some really don't mind living in delusion after all.
It comes down to a choice to continue the lie, and a search for the real.
Then again, if you're able to take solace in a lie, there can't be much of you that's real in the first place.
What are all these posts?
ReplyDeleteI was talking to an Anon a few days back about detachment. I had that Anon on my mind wanted to add some things for him, if he is still there.
ReplyDeleteI think you are talking about disassociation, which leads to what people call "detachment". People say,"What is up with you? WHERE are you? Get with the program( emotionally), Care for me more, Give me more of yourself. Open up. Don't be so closed down." etc etc
The person who is disassociated cannot do this, as he has little access to his emotions, which are what is thought of as a "soul", in common parlance. Disassociation is as real as skin color. You can't ask a white person to be black or vice-versa. Disassociation can be healed but it is mega slow and very painful. In that sense , it is not a fait accompli like skin color( except if you are Micheal Jackson ~) You cannot get over it, just like that. Understand and respect the power of defense mechanisms, as they were built to save the person from death due to a broken heart. I am here, whenever you want to talk <3
thank you, sofa. Yes, your description sounds about right for me. I always thought that because I was "in love"(infatuated, in a seduction place, or idk, feeling warm and sexual, and sort of wanting to crawl inside a person) that i was deeply emotional.
DeleteI learned a lot from Haven's blog about this thing. It is not real because I start to become annoyed if they try to spend lots of time and devote themselves to me. I want to push them off of me.
I prefer being the one who wants more and idk if it is about the challenge. Once I catch them I am feeling stuck, in quick sand, even annoyed. I want to be free after all that seducing and intensity. I can be very confusing to myself even.
I used to make mistake of getting mushy in my head and doing lovey talking/gestures. ALso I used to always feel like a dog begging for them to give me more love. This was the usual. I would panic after sex, too. I am still doing that or else holding on like they are going to leave me. It is very disappointing. I cannot tell this to a person I want to keep.
Now I have to watch myself so I don't get tangled. I think that I am "in love" and then when it goes away I do not remember this feeling. Unless they have dumped me. -This is preferred for me to keep "loving"
I think this is the reason I wanted my antisocial/narc back. He is definitely part sociopath. I remember him telling me once that i was his only friend. I believe he was half asking for pity but I also knew he was very alone. He is not a lovable person. (I would drawn to that guy~) The night that he told me that, I was turned off. It was like a light switch. Then when he let me go I wanted him again. But I did not love him.
I got cold to him. He knew and dumped me first.
I am rarely the dumper. Now i can sort of regulate my attachment to my needs. It can be secretly controlling and manipulative , but it is necessary for me to keep "loving".
I am ok with this for now. I do not know how permanent this will be. Maybe forever. Thank you for being here to say these things. I do not tell anyone. Well, my gfs know me. They think I am like this just because I am independent or they just think I like the bad boys. Not really.
You can, always, talk to me, Anon!
DeleteIt sounds like it is hard to stay solid. It sucks. That is what I am trying to do, too.
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DeleteWhen you panic, what is going on in your head, the self talk?
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Deletei do not know what comes first the panic or the self talk.
DeleteDuring panic I am feeling disposable, I am feeling like I am vanishing, i am feeling like the end is coming, i am feeling paranoid, I am beating myself up for having these feelings, I am bearing down storing up strength, I am trying not to panic.
It used to be just all focused on them them them: "Did they just turn away from me because i am annoying?" I would not cling outwardly but in my head i would. I would imagine they could see in my head and were turned off.
I would give them all sorts of power and imagine they will throw me out for being too visible.
I would try to guess how to be less annoying (whatever that means~) I got very good at this. And I do not even think i was annoying at all. But I knew if they would see the panic they would know they would have to get rid of me.
I looked at myself as a nuisance. I have not seen myself this way for a while though. Now I'm like 'kiss my ass motherfucker, you just got laid by a pro' ~
THemes that is perfect song for today. thank you.
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Deletewhen do you feel the most solid, Monica?
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DeleteThat is just how I feel. I was hoping you could explain it. It is like being on the verge of death, the verge of the abyss. Thank you for putting it into words!
When do I fee the most solid? When I honor myself, pure and simple. Usually, it is hard when you think someone wants you to do something else, or the something else is more socially acceptable, but the honoring of myself is a forced mechanism of my will, not my feelings, as I am scared stiff.
DeleteI have said this before but it gets more and more true. I have one main, personal goal. I don't want to die mental. I want to die, a person. I try to make up my own programs to get there and I am getting there, as I feel more solid.
DeleteI just had an interaction with a person where I turned the relationship from friendship to business. I turned it, on a dime, and with inner strength. I made it clear that I wanted her business services and that was it. She got the point.
The reason this was big was because I honored myself, and not her. I felt my deepest feelings, which were "You think YOU are going to have power over ME. You got another thing coming" I showed her that this nice, sweet, seemingly weak person had an inner thorn that she better not touch.
I went through a lot of emotional turmoil for daring to honor myself and not someone else( i.e the symbolic representation of my mother) but I stuck to it and it was a big step. I attribute it to expressing myself, creatively ~ ~
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DeleteHave you ever, in your life, felt solid?
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DeleteI totally agree with what ME said. I'd add only one thing. Act exactly like ME said and once you get him back see if you can act cool/calm/composed as he is never going to be up to your high smothering expectations. After all you're smothering him with the hope that he'll return back the same. You are doing this because you hav ethe hots for the guy, had there been a guy who has the hots for you but you don't you'd treat the poor loser in a way similar to how your socio is treating you. ME's advice is good for most women when dealing with most men, not just the sociopath.
ReplyDeleteCming back to adding only one thing. Men still expect an occasional neurotic smothering to be convinced that you really dig them. WHen I say occasional I don't mean an event every day, but maybe you show some jealousy or something once every two months. It's good to introduce tension ocasionally and oump his ego.
Having said all of that, ask yourself whether your socio or problem guys in general are worth the effort. Make sure you get something other than satisfying your needy emotions in the picture. Don't lose anything that will impact your self esteem. Don't get bad grades worrying about an ass. Don't lose quality prep for that next meeting at work. Climb high, your neediness will take care of itself when your mind is soaked into creation. Learn something from what most guys are doing. Women are nonissue for them, they are busy climbing.
It would seem that people dislike mush.
DeleteThey can't stand to be around mush, it's like a three month old diaper, it's when someone comes here, complains about their relationship, only to head back and try the same old tired tricks.
'Take my mush! I can't stand it! Take it away!'
So when you're being mushy, or 'intimate', sharing all your burdens, people tend not to like that.
DeleteThat's the reason people get bored, it's not you, its the mush...
I believe as we mature and grow, we learn to care more, it really is a learning process.
DeleteIt requires love, patience and understanding on your part to listen and help others deal with their problems, it's a sad fact that love and understanding is severely lacking in our society today.
And I believe that this is the one reason why we have
Deleteso many psychiatrists, labels and disorders today, it's a symptom of the larger problem that needs to be confronted.
"Never love anyone, that can't love you back."
DeleteNot like you can help who you love. And how the hell would you know if they can love you back or not?
Delete'An eye for an eye leaves whole world blind.'
DeleteThe people who seem our enemies are usually the ones most in need of some understanding.
What's with the quotes?
DeleteThe people who seem our enemies seem that way for a reason. Either deal with them as the situation calls for or avoid them if you can't.
Giving them understanding will usually encourage them to fuck you over yet again.
We need love, man.
DeleteOrgy anyone? Spread the love. And herpes.
DeleteAre you going to contribute anything of use, or are you just going to continue showing everyone your lack of understanding.
DeleteHm. I think I'll continue trolling :)
DeleteAt least until you stop putting up quotes and contribute something meaningful that is worthy of a serious discussion.
Really? What would you like to discuss?
DeleteAnything that doesn't involve other people's quotes, day time tv, recipes or pop psych.
DeleteOther than that, I'm pretty easy.
Theme for the Love Troll
DeleteSceli gives good advice.
Delete"Never love anyone, that can't love you back."
Deletewhat if you don't think anyone would love you back? Does that mean you shouldn't love?
no, but maybe it means you need to redefine love.
DeleteAnonymousDecember 21, 2012 10:36 AM
DeleteIt would seem that people dislike mush.
They can't stand to be around mush, it's like a three month old diaper, it's when someone comes here, complains about their relationship, only to head back and try the same old tired tricks.
'Take my mush! I can't stand it! Take it away!'
AnonymousDecember 21, 2012 11:05 AM
So when you're being mushy, or 'intimate', sharing all your burdens, people tend not to like that.
That's the reason people get bored, it's not you, its the mush...
WOuld somebody please tell me the words they would use to tell someone that they like to lay off the mush?
I would like for some one to tell me how i can get someone to knock that shit off. I do not like the position of having to endure this bullshit and say to myself "now now they are trying hard to be sweet, give them credit, applaud them for their mush, tell them how much you appreciate them voicing how they feel about you by telling you how great you are, they are so happy to find you, that you are the most blah blah blah."
How do you solve this? You do not want to push them away and say "Christ you are annoying". You do not want to make them afraid of their own shadow around you. Men will feel ball-less after you say anything like this. THen they will surely go to other women who will lap up their mush so they can think they are "the man". I understand all you say, Sceli. Men are simple this way. They like to see how they made you feel good. It pumps their ego. I am TOO good at this.
when they figure out they are damned if they do and damned if they don't you become boring too, you know?
DeleteBe honest. if the relationship can't sustain honesty, let it go. It will get, only, get worse.
DeleteYour world is about to come to an abrupt end, canines of feminine gender.
ReplyDeleteYour excruciatingly painful demise is imminent, brace yourselves!
Want him back? Hit him in his ego.
ReplyDeleteFind a show pony to prance around with you where he "happens" to see you. When you see him talk to him like everything is fabulous. Make a subtle dig on some skill of his that gets the idea of a challenge going and follow it up with a compliment of him as well. Just a small one. Or a back handed one.
Keep yourself in his sights (not constantly, but consistently). Learn to say No, a lot.
Right in the jewels should have the same effect.
DeleteI know what you mean, but my brain instantly jumped to robbery haha. Steal his favorite things. He'll come to you.
DeleteOh, you kleptomaniacs...
DeleteThe idea is to flee as far away as possible so that he'll mistake you for the postman and come on running
back.
When you don't love people, you probably need to surround yourself with cool things. By my logic, sociopaths probably have the best shit. Well, them and narcs. And you don't even have to feel bad about, um, acquiring it! It's a fabulous adrenaline rush.
DeleteI would think if you don't see someone you'll forget about them. Out of sight, out of mind and all.
Stealing is a fabulous rush, isn't it? So much fun figuring out how to bypass the cameras and other security.
DeleteAbout attacking their ego, you'd be surprised how many people see right through that. I've been on the receiving end of this bullshit twice. You can just smell the desperation oozing out of them. You can tell the relationship is not real, might be the body language, don't know. Makes them seem even more pathetic in my eyes.
Granted, it was fun fucking with their heads by being friendly back, talking to them later and hinting strongly that I had thought it would be good to give it another shot, but they are taken now. They seem so happy together. Guess it wasn't meant to be.
It is true about the out of sight, out of mind in general. That's because I genuinely didn't love those people, but faked it well. So who cares if they are gone, I'll get a replacement soon enough.
The one time I have been really and genuinely in love, I went a little crazy for almost a week when they dumped me. Missed them. It was a new experience.
You know what they say... 'like attracts like'
DeleteI was mostly joking about attacking the ego. Mostly, haha. I think this post is ripe for trolling. Frankly I think if he's gone, move on. I recognize my own issues with this, which is why I'm pretty sure it's the only really good way to go.
DeleteI used to e quite the little klepto. So much fun. It used to be one of the more dysfunctional ways I'd knock myself out of a bad mood. That adrenaline rush is like Instant Happy haha.
Yeah, me too. These days I only indulge occasionally. Nothing to do with mood I don't think. Just feel like it sometimes.
DeleteDidn't know you were trolling :)
Have seen people give this advice in all seriousness and get pats on the back for it from people you just know will go through with it. It's funny when you hear about these people showing up "randomly" and brag about what wonderful person they are now dating. Who treats them like gold and can't get enough of them. So transparent.
I agree with you that if they are gone, move the fuck on. If you love them, think about being just friends. But desperate stalking behavior is not going to bring them back.
Event Series
ReplyDeleteTheme for the Spam
ReplyDeleteWhat the actual fuck?
DeleteThis is my first time viewing this, and I am scarred for life.
Shit does not get more awesome than that.
DeleteLol. That part at 0:45 pisses me off so bad.
DeleteInterpreting ME's advice (you know I love you, but...):
ReplyDeleteWhatever you do, don't be yourself. Act exactly the opposite of how you feel is true to you. Being yourself is basically why your relationship ended in the first place so whatever you do, don't do that. Shallow emotional depth can really only be swayed by shallow relationship expectations; sex without any more meaningful connection.
::headdesk::
Who wants a mutually reciprocated relationship anyways?
Not to worry, you'll get there.
DeleteWhen you've developed all the good qualities that you would like in your ideal love, you'll know when that one comes along.
Its just the process of growth.
Haven
ReplyDeleteI would like to ask you a question. In very practical terms, what are the differences between a sociopath and a BPD-- more in terms of how it feels inside. Thanks!
As we know I'm not a sociopath so I can't really give you an opinion from that aspect. But as we know one of the key factors differentiating sociopathy from most others is the shallow emotional affect and limited empathy. BPD has the full range of emotions, often to the point of overdrive. We can (at least I do) struggle with empathy sometimes (have limited empathy like many sociopaths do, but the core motivating factors are different), and it's not our default setting as it is in sociopathy. I wrote a good series on BPD and empathy on my blog if you'd like to check it out. It covers the different times when we can or can't experience empathy.
DeleteThis is the starter entry and at the bottom are links to various posts describing situational empathy and lack thereof.
Empathy & BPD
Sociopathy as far as I can tell is almost completely Self-Directed. BPD fluxuates wildly between Self-Directedness and Other-Directedness. Or Self-Directedness via Other-Directedness.
Other than our challenged empathy and our penchant for fantastic rages we're not much alike. Even the way we "manipulate" tends to be different - different as in the point of motivation and intent is different. It's not a simple question you've asked.
Oh, I wrote this a while back too:
DeleteBordering on Sociopathy?
This should help you out.
Thanks, Haven!
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ReplyDeleteYou said Sociopaths have insecurities, how is that even possible? Aren't they supposed to be fearless, reckless and without emotion. And if they do, how do you find out whether or not they have an insecurity, or are lying to you to manipulate you some how?
ReplyDeleteAnny01 says: Many people go through their lives without having experienced the cold of a sociopath. If you have, i'm sorry, but now it's time to move on. I happen to have to somewhat survived throughout one. I have to see him every day, due to the many things that I became because of him, but i still struggle because I have come to love the activities that he did and now the activites that i do. But if i had the opportunity to leave, i would because sociopaths are a predators, they are different, they deserve both respect and fear, and if you have neither of those, then you shall forever suffer to the hands of one. I am looking forward to the day that i don't see my sociopath a few times a week. There is always coldness, and steamy heat hope, but in the end, there is always nothing, emptyniess just like the cold of space, no sound, no warmth, no nope for energy or future, so in my own advice (no offense to any sociopaths on the blog) if you know a sociopath, you should stay away from them. Unless you are willing to be a toy of a soulless being, then, you are better off running, running as fast as your legs can carry you. I wish in my life i could be a sociopath, one that could enjoy life's pleasures to their max without feeling any empathy towards anything, but unfortunately i happen to be an empath, the worst the world has ever seen, and for that reason i suffer, so in short, if you love a sociopath, run, run, run... becuase there is nothing there for you, there never was, and there never will be.
ReplyDeleteI'm going to read back through these responses in case I missed the answer to my question, but my question is this. I have a sociopath in my life and I was her victim. I was very upset with her at first about what she did to me (nearly ruined my life), but I fell in love with her and had sex with her more than once and it was really great. Now she says she doesn't want to do it anymore. She's really afraid that someone will find out about us and I think that's why she is saying no. However, I want to continue having sex with her. I'm not sure if she is saying no to me to just to mess with me (she knows I still want to) or if she really means it. She said no before and we ended up doing it again anyway. So basically I just want to know how to get her interested in me again if she has in fact lost interest. I'm thinking that the best thing to do is ignore her and move on with my life and if she wants me, she'll let me know. That seems to be what happened before. I just went about my business and ignored her and after awhile, she wanted it again. Any advice? And yes, I'm certain she is a sociopath.
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