In the comments everyone is literally vomiting or having 'triggering' episodes by reading excerpts.
Little does she realize that she is also empowering more sociopaths and sociopathic activity by writing this stuff up. People that are smarter than her and her audience.
I went out and bought the book shortly after my breakup, but not in order to "know my enemy," but in order to become the enemy.
"Channeling. I wonder how many vulnerable people she now has sold on that shit? One scam deserves another, apparently."
exactly.
She's just as much of a con as he was.
TNP, sorry you were dissapointed in my comment last night. I really didn't take it personally I just wanted to make it clear that I don't bitch about anything and it seemed like it was aimed at the general population of women here. Friends?
Look at her when she was young and full of life. Mr. Montgomery went and sucked that bitch dry. Now she's a bitter old prune. Her face looks like agony. I wish I could see a reality show of the whole marriage. What a laugh it would've been when she found out he had a kid during their marriage with some other bird.
she lost me at "past life" and how he raped, muredered, blah, blah in each one.
but more importantly
THAT MAN IS UGLY AS HELL! she may not be hot in modern standards but she's decent and average yet married an ugly dude. if you're gonna go through all of that at least let him be goodlooking. and it seems she married him cause she thought he was a successful rich business man. if you marry an ugly man or woman it better be because you deeply love him or her
usually, hot men get a bad rap that they're players or dogs or you would expect him to be that way because he's goodlooking. but i have found that ugly men are worse.
She claims that once she "healed" she was able to find "love and joy".
Bullshit. Her eyes and face are so full of bitter fucking rage, still. She looks like she could go on a murdering rampage at any second if she could see what she was doing for all the crocodile tears she'd be shedding.
Her new husband isn't half the man she thought montgomery was. What a let down for her. She swallowed all of his bullshit stories of being in the special forces, and owning atlantic city. She's so fucking stupid. Once someone says they were in the special forces I automatically switch off the rest of the bullshit story they are going to tell me next.
Donna's checklist for her lovefraud followers: (WARNING- LONG POST)
Law 2: Never put too much trust in friends, learn how to use enemies (she's using her ex) Law 3: Conceal your intentions Law 5: So much depends on reputation—guard it with your life Law 6: Court attention at all cost Law 8: Make other people come to you—use bait if necessary Law 9: Win through your actions, never through argument Law 11: Learn to keep people dependent on you Law 16: Use absence to increase respect and honor (I doubt she responds hastily to her followers) Law 21: Play a sucker to catch a sucker—seem dumber than your mark (although she is that dumb, she still manages to catch more suckers) Law 23: Concentrate your forces Law 24: Play the perfect courtier Law 25: Re-create yourself Law 26: Keep your hands clean Law 27: Play on people’s need to believe to create a cult-like following Law 28: Enter action with boldness Law 29: Play all the way to the end Law 31: Control the options: Get others to play with the cards you deal Law 32: Play to people’s fantasies Law 34:Be royal in your own fashion: Act like a king to be treated like a king Law 37: Create compelling spectacles Law 43: Work on the hearts and minds of others Law 45: Preach the need for a change, but never reform too much at once
Yeah I can tell by her weepy fucking site talking about how we dick over saps like you. I've never given any of my exes a second thought. They go straight into the garbage. Just like Donna. You and Donna on the otherhand have to look up everything about HIM. (I notice you guys like to capitalize things on your site). Hell, she built her whole fucking life around him. Look at her. He must feel great. I would. A whole populated hate site about how he conned her. What a tribute. Her husband must feel like shit. He knows he won't ever be Montgomery. Ol monty had her the way he could never have. He hit that button so well she was fucking puddy. I wonder if one day he's going to snap and say, "Enough about montgomery!"
yes, i kinda agree Aerianne, she looks so intense butt i think her bitterness comes from not being able to get the court ordered money back from him, and not because he has any type of pscyhological hold on her. but this occured years and years ago, she needs to move on, completely forget about the money she lost and stop using him as a crutch for her site. it's a fine line between getting over someone and continuously talking about them as an example of a bad relationship, the flip side is that you never get over it, if you keep referencing them.
I think the psychological hold is obvious, how can you think otherwise. The money has nothing to do with it. It was the betrayal, and the realization that she had been used. She dated him six months and married him? Stupid bitch. She deserved him. Broken people always deserve each other. This I Know: Fuck that lady and everyone on that site. There's even grown fucking men in there crying like bitches. Its shameful. This fucking guy went on and on about the laws of power on there and listed every single law in detail of how it related to some bird that fucked him over. Every reader starts with some brief sympathy for the last wall of tears text, and off they go trying to bury people in their misery. I read that 48 laws of power book and its all shit I have been doing for a long time. Maybe it comes naturally to sociopaths and this guy had to write it down so these people know our tricks. Fucking traitor.
I don't go to that site, have looked at it because it was mentioned on here but it seemed useless (at least for me)
I enjoy this one because of the interaction and enlightenment it brings. Can't say I understand what it's like to be a sociopath but I do respect all of you that really interact on a honest level.
Ukan I think your insight into what Donna is about is uncanny.
This pretty much sums up how I feel about lovefraud.
She and Vaknin are making decent coin by pandering to victims, and they're both ugly bastards. A match made in heaven. They can fuck in beds full of money soaked in tears. Donna will get bored of her Stepford husband. She's going to need what Monty gave her eventually.
@ ukan. she married after six months because he appeared to be wealthy, it sure as hell was not his good looks and classic handsomeness, nah she saw $$ signs, and then she invested more money in his alledged businesses because she thought she or they would reap huge amounts of profit and become richer, so now she lost it all, she not only lost her hard earned savings, but she lost it to a jackass, who is ugly, and who used her. she's driven by hatred, yes, but not "i loved that bastard with all my heart and he left me for another woman" type hatred. her hatred is more along the lines of "i married that bastard and he took all my money"
Notable, you better hope Vaknin didn't see that. He will send his goons after you. A malignant narcissist takes everything seriously, even the internet.
I suspect Donna has made back many times more than the money Monty conned out of her by the Love Fraud Business he basically helped her start. So, she really should be thanking him. BTW, when I first heard about this, yesterday, from Medusa, I thought DONNA was the "Love Fraud". And her second husband has gigolo written all over him.
Vaknin never said he was a victim, he says openly that he is a predator. Did you see the documentary? His wife walked outside for two minutes and Vaknin was already smearing her.
I sort of agree with Anon 9.07. I fail to see how this is about love for her. Love can't harbour this amount of prolonged bitterness, not in my book anyway. To have sustained this business of hers for as long as she has over the initial period after the betrayal, seems unbelievable to me. To have built her life around this, is rather, well, nauseating.
Your wrong. She would throw everything she had away for love, and she did. You can tell she was more hurt by his deciet, cheating, and bigomy than anything else. When you look at people you have to use their soft eyes to see them. Instead, anonymous, you project yourself into their situation, as if you were there. That's why all you can see is the money. You fail to see all the angles because you can't see past yourself. Monty saw it though. He saw a emotionally unstable codependant women with a lot of cash. He wisked her away with his australian accent and tales of australian special forces and their hunt for crocadile dundee. She probably told all her friends who had almost lost hope that she would ever find someone. He hitter with the question quick because she was already done. She was ready fucking made. She probably hung out with him everyday for those sixth months while he filled her head with all the shit she needed to hear. All the holes childhood had left her. All her ghosts. Gone. In his hands. Then: She was his. She was his because with him was the only time in her life where she felt complete. He held her hostage with that.
this blog is funny. there are more paranoids and schizoids on this blog than my local mental hospital center. if someone is "anonymous" take them at their word that they are not TNP,peter pan, not me, harry, daniel, or whoever the hell else. "other" people actually read and comment on this blog. morons.
@UKAN, really you sound naive. that's the problem with men, you think that all women fall in love with men because of their great personality and sense of adventure. does this look like the kind of woman who would marry a bum? do you honestly think she got sold on just his personality? she went for the ride cause he presented a false sense of stature(wealth). not only was he adventurous, and manly, but he was successful. or so he appeared.
you want her to be the typical, stereotypical dumb broad who fell head over heels in some Fabio romance novel. she may want you and her readers to believe that, but i see past that b.s.
Ukan, I see what you mean. I guess it's just that my experience of love and take on it is a bit different to hers. I guess i find that putting all your eggs in one basket, rather troublesome. I assume she didn't have the trust issues that I have. Oh well. Each to their own. Whatever it is, that site sets my teeth on edge.
People can look at a situation and know at their gut that it is too good to be true. Instead, they'll eat up the BS in the vain hope that if they roll the dice, they'll win, and win big.
It's simple gambling, where the losses can be staggering.
That's true Note. It is a gamble. I'll only gamble if I'm the one responsible for the outcome, with no one else to blame if it goes wrong. Being angry at someone for it is not how i want to live my life. But like I said, each to their own.
In the end, she fucked him up ten times worse than he did.
Thousands of people know his name, his face, and where he is from. This is living proof that she is more vengeful than he. I don't think he was a psychopath, he strikes me more of the narcissistic Madoff schemer type.
i agree 9:57am, i'm thinking that he's just a douche bag who womanizes, is a serial cheater, and who saw an opportunity to take advantage of someone's money. a sociopath doesn't seem like he'll marry the mother of one of the six women he cheated on her with. would a sociopath cheat, and have a child out of wedlock, offcourse, but to marry the mother? what for? sociopaths love their freedom.
and if you look at that woman's face, she has more balls than most men, she doesn't play. she's not some wimpering lithe flower, she will hunt you down and get her revenge. she's the strong type so i don't buy her i was heartbroken pleas.
lastly, sociopaths protect their IMAGE of how other's see them. I happen to know of one such pig but yet he still has all these women fooled because the does nice things for them after he breaks their heart so they get confused and don't spread lies(or truths) about how he's no good.
A psychopath is more mentally unstable than a narcissist, I'm talking about about impulse control.
My friend told me about a guy she used to date, he was addicted to child pornography, she only found out when she searched his laptop, there was also tons of torture videos, and girls as young as twelve getting abused. He was physically abusive and beat her a number of times.
I don't get it. If the foundation of a sociopath is the lack of conscience, then why are so many sadistic? Isn't that more than "A lack of conscience" it's being deliberately evil.
Does this mean, that if you strip the conscience from every single person, underneath is am animal like predatory mindset?
My problem is not that she was a conned. Sure, she was. An idiot not to see the signs, and an idiot in that she couldn't/refuses see what her own reasons for being into this guy was, at least publicly. But what can you do. We are all idiots until we are not anymore.
My problem is that she takes absolutely no responsibility for being an idiot. The closest she comes is by blaming her past lives, instead of the current one, and using the "there's a reason for everything" cop out. No taking a look at herself, no encouraging her followers to do the same.
Instead she's making them even weaker than they were in the first place. Cry cry! Trigger trigger! Demons here! Demons there! As if No Contact is the cure. If I can't see it or hear it, it doesn't exist! Bullshit.
She is an opportunist, plain and simple. She's now capitalizing on her crusade through book sales and publicity.
She lacks basic humility and self-introspection, at least on a public level. She vengefully tainted Monty's image, what little was left, and now she had married a trophy husband who has the shadow of "an evil man" from which he must avoid that constantly follows this woman. He saw what happened to the last guy. All she has to do is cry wolf on him, and with her influence and "expertise", who is to question her "authority" within the Victim community?
She was heart-broken by the deceit because she let herself fall in love with a man buried in red flags and was left to look like a sucker. She evokes pity for being a fool and played, when she fell in love with the Idea of the man, instead of the man himself. This is a core weakness most people have. They sell themselves on who they want their lover to be, and impose their own blind spots. They do half the work for you.
She's no better than her ex, in that she is profiting of the pain, suffering, and misunderstanding of victims in harmful relationships. The only difference is that she's raking in the dough and admiration of someone who has already been victimized, as opposed to the one doing it.
Creepy Woman Marries Creepy Man, Is Surprised By Outcome, Even Years Later Medusa, you are incredibly lovely.
I read that 48 laws of power book and its all shit I have been doing for a long time. Completely agree, UKan. I don't see how people don't think that way by default. How do they make decisions?
My problem is that she takes absolutely no responsibility for being an idiot. People like her never take responsibility. They have a complete inability to look at themselves as fallible humans instead of the special snowflake royalty that their mommy's told them they were.
I've seen a few reviews/overviews for that author's books. I saw no reason to purchase them. Like Pythias said, that's how I've always operated. The idea of purchasing a list of my MO seems absurd. I guess some people need a handbook on how to be a bastard, and some of us are born with it. Kudos to him for making a buck off it, though.
I only got through about a 1/4 of the 48 Laws, because after a while I figured it out on my own. I found the writing, upon first glance, to be unnecessarily written in a "hee hee hee we are bad guys" tone but the basis of it still stands. Neither good nor evil, just reality.
It's still sitting here right next to my bed though, nestled between a Nick Cave novel that I'm reading and an old witchcraft book with a pleasing hardcover design that I've had since I was a tween.
Anon 9:55, if you think she married him for money, you are a fool. It takes a lot more to con someone like that than pretending to be rich. You have no clue at all on how to manipulate people, because you are still too focused on yourself. If she was about her money she would've invested in him, and he would have approached it different. The fact that he married her to get at that gold tells you that he had to get her really emotionally vulnerable. Look at the bitterness. You think she's that bitter over the money? come on.
Marrying people is a little extreme to pull off a con, and a hell of a long-term investment and paper trail. Definitely easier ways to get money out of people.
Only ever did one, many many years ago, and it worked fantastically.
A couple years ago I contemplated calling up a so-called 'demon', because I was horny and uninterested in the stupidity of humanity.
Got what I asked for within a couple weeks.
All that shit is unnecessary and are basically just symbolic rituals. Nothing supernatural about it. People who call themselves 'witches' don't get that.
Don't need swords and cups and grimoires and Renaissance festivals to exert your will and intention.
I don't even have a facebook page. I don't want people finding me that I stopped contacting, I don't like new faces, and I don't want to see sammy's first step.
I have to say your the only one with guts to put up your Facebook, but you already have over a thousand freinds. If thats really you then never say anything illegal or incriminating.
Some of you here might actually appreciate this Nick Cave book.
It's about an alcoholic traveling salesman who only sees vagina when he has his eyes open, his wife who goes all BPD and commits suicide, and his 9-year-old aspie son who looks up to him, whom he treats alternately like a tumor, a mirror or a beer cozy.
A guy I suspect is more N than anything saw my "48 Laws of Power" book and said the funniest thing... "Why would you be reading THAT book? That's what a lot of the guys I knew in prison read..." and by the end of the night, the game was up.
It's funny -- I really just wanted to play "let's take over the world" with this guy -- but by the end of the night he was calling me an "enemy" and was really shaken up -- trying to catch me in a game that I wasn't necessarily playing WITH HIM.
All over a stupid book.
It's not a bad book -- I like anecdotes. He hadn't ever really read it. I like the fact that it gives me permission to do what I already do.
I am angry that I left the book in sight when he came over. By the end of the night, he "abandoned" me -- when he realized that I was not a "real" narcisstic supply. Which pissed me off - a lot of effort. But he is a classic N, and he WILL be back, when he needs something.
I have my own little social circle, and I probably won't want to play by then.
I may not be an S or an N, something in between -- or undeveloped. I AM a fantastic liar, and manipulator, and the biggest game I play is doing what it takes to get what I want. I never want anything for long, I bore easily.
I am pretty sure that it's the silliest thing that HE can do -- but most likely, it was just an excuse to go back to fucking other people. It's a great excuse for me to go back to ignoring the world and - well, having little to no sex drive.
For some reason I only like to "love and leave" guys with tremendous egos.
True internet anonymity is an illusion. Anyone can be tracked down. Having a government run system could expedite that, I suppose, but no one's truly anonymous, even when they're proxy hopping.
Straight edge, heh. Some of the biggest douchebags in music. Maybe they'd lighten up with a few.
I walked out of Furry Vengeance and Madagascar, two movies which I wholeheartedly question my sanity for even purchasing a ticket.
I watched a whole lot of 80s and 90s movies, so I have an incredibly high tolerance for mindless crap. Apparently I have limits, though.
I should also note that Andy Dick has an obnoxious voice, and anything with him or his voice in it instantly lowers my opinion of it. I think I was watching a kid's show or movie with a nephew with him as the voice actor and I wanted to shut it off. Can't stand that Dick.
"It's like this, Bunny Boy: if you walk up to an oak tree or an bloody elm or something — you know, one of those big bastards — one with a thick, heavy trunk with giant roots that grow deep in the soil and great branches that are covered in leaves, right, and you walk up to it and give the tree a shake, well, what happens?"
"I don't really know, Dad," says Bunny Junior, listening intently, retaining the information and knowing, in time, he will probably understand.
"Well, nothing bloody happens, of course!" says Bunny, and he slows the Punto to halt. "You can stand there shaking it till the cows come home and all that will happen is your arms will get tired. Right? But if you go up to a skinny, dry, fucked-up little tree, with a withered trunk and a few leaves clinging on for dear life, and you put your hands around it and shake the shit out of it — as we say in the trade — those bloody leaves will come flying off! Yeah? Now, the big oak tree is the rich bastard, right, and the skinny tree is the poor cunt who hasn't got any money. Are you with me?
Bunny Junior nods.
"Now, that sounds easier than it actually is, Bunny Boy. Do you want to know why?"
"Ok, Dad."
"Because every fucking bastard and his dog has got hold of the little tree and is shaking it for all that it's worth — the government, the bloody landlord, the lottery they don't have a chance in hell of winning, the council, their bloody exes, their hundred snotty-nosed brats running around because they are too bloody stupid to exercise a bit of self-control, all the useless shit they see on TV, fucking Tesco, parking fines, insurance on this and insurance on that, the boozer, the fruit machines, the bookies — every bastard and his three-legged, one-eyed, pox-ridden dog are shaking this little tree," says Bunny, clamping his hands together and making like he is throttling someone.
"So what do you go and do, Dad?" says Bunny Junior.
"Well, you've got to have something they think they need, you know, above all else."
"And what's that, Dad?"
"Hope... you know...the dream. You've got to sell them the dream."
"And what's the dream, Dad?"
"What's the dream?" He looks at Bunny Junior, squares his shoulders, opens the door to the Punto, points his thumb at his chest and says, "Me."
She married what she thought was a rich business man to mooch of him instead he mooches off her whats the difference? Who is the sociopath? He settled down with the woman he had a child to well at least he is a responsible father. But wait! Thats in contradiction to the definition of a sociopath!
In 2010 in the UK Stephen Griffiths, a PhD student who was studying criminology at the University of Bradford and specialising in homicide was while studying a practicing serial killer. Proving conclusively that there is no condition of "sociopath" it is nonsense and destructive to the legal profession the mental health system and society as a whole.
Because non of his professors noticed anything unusual about him. These people would be the first to appear in front of a camera after some other serial killers spree being wise after the event saying the killer displayed typical signs of being a sociopath to justify their fraudulent existense.
That's it. Not only should prostitution be decriminalized, but all sex workers should start carrying guns. And be taught martial arts. And have small arsenals. Etc.
"Well, nothing bloody happens, of course!" says Bunny, and he slows the Punto to halt. "You can stand there shaking it till the cows come home and all that will happen is your arms will get tired. Right? But if you go up to a skinny, dry, fucked-up little tree, with a withered trunk and a few leaves clinging on for dear life, and you put your hands around it and shake the shit out of it — as we say in the trade — those bloody leaves will come flying off! Yeah? Now, the big oak tree is the rich bastard, right, and the skinny tree is the poor cunt who hasn't got any money. Are you with me?
Bunny Junior nods.
"Now, that sounds easier than it actually is, Bunny Boy. Do you want to know why?"
I read this a few months ago. Have you seen The Proposition, Medusa?
Man, Donna. From previous mentions of lovefraud.com here I expected her to be pretty nutty, but...yikes.
If she really had $1/4 mil I'm guessing she saw the two of them as some kind of "power couple". She thought she'd met someone her equal or better(in her mind). Having your heart broken happens, sociopath or non-sociopath. Being left destitute by someone you thought loved you is harder to swallow. Not because of the money, specifically, but because the person didn't just walk and leave you, but they also just totally fucked up your whole program and didn't give a shit what happened to you.
Lovefraud seemed uninteresting to me. I felt like I got swindled emotionally by my ex, but he didn't use me for any kind of material or prestige; I've got a certain amount of both in certain (small)circles, but nothing that would warrant a surreptitious takeover. It seemed like(and still does) that it was a valid attempt at having something real, just not an honest one and I ended up totally confused. I came here because I wanted to understand what happened, not bitch about it(too much), I already know how miserable it was and how caught off guard I was to find out he was so different from what I took for granted about people(empathy) and also different from my previous understanding of sociopathy(serial killers, convicts).
But, I have to agree, I don't see Donna as so virtuous. I do think that she was smart to make a silk purse out of a sow's ear. Is she doing anything that doesn't make sense to a sociopath? She's gotta be living off this Monty and has the bulk of the people who are aware of him thinking of him as a total beast. Excellent revenge and she can laugh all the way to the bank.
Personally I find her predatory nature to be repugnant, but brilliant in its own way.
I am loving life. Seriously, all the people on here that are depressed with life are missing out. I decided this year I love it so much I started researching into how to extend it. I found a company that will cryo your head or body (a lot more expensive). They preserve you till they can repair your body in the future, or transplant the parts of your brain that hold your identity and memories into a cloned shell. Only problem is you have to make sure you die at a bed with technicians. I don't know how good my odds are there, but I like to cheat when it comes to playing for keeps. I love the idea that I was born at a time where I have a chance to haunt humanity forever.
WAY TOO FUNNY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! They did...they got it on at Chuck e Cheese and then they gave birth at some zoo..the zoo wanted to keep her but no one would visit her in her cage so they let her go.
haha..she is a MORON!!! she's talking about squeezing all the pus out of her wounds and filling them with love and joy - maybe she should approach a bandaid company with that idea and see if it can make her another few Mill$$..."don't just cover your pus filled wounds..fill them..with love and joy!!"...... :|
How can you all beat on this poor poor woman? She is a jeanus. Clearly she has taken God into her heart and mind and his love has filled her. I send all of my love to all of you so tat your hearts will be joyful and you will pull your heads out of your fucking arses, get jobs and stop masturbating over your glaring inadequacies by big-noting yourselves on a site dedicated to a mental deficiency. Peace Out bitches.
Here's a question: If a sociopath met her after having read her book, thus knowing exactly what he was getting into and what she'd be looking for, would it be possible to fool her again?
I don't think I could pull it off, but I was just thinking how hilarious it would be if her new hubby turned out to be one as well.
I'm dating someone that has a fairly extensive academic knowledge of most of the PDs and doesn't suspect a thing. Everyone has blind spots, and this broad is dumb enough to list hers.
I don't get it. She thought she was marrying a millionare so her heart swelled and it turned out he took a quarter million dollars from her instead. She considers that "love", but probably passed up the guy that actually liked her because he didn't appear as successful as her sociopath.
It doesn't take a genius to listen to her talking points and figure out what she cared most about. I don't like her. I don't like her sociopath either, but I don't feel sorry for her one bit. I'm also quite certain that if she had more down to earth talking points as to why WE should hate him I would feel a LITTLE bit sorry for her and say "yeah, wow, that one's a piece of shit." But it aint happenin, she's not genuine either. Even if he is a sociopath and not simply smart enough to see what I see, fuck both of them and their bullshit story.
Didn't see any comment re her 'spiritual guide' BS. WTF is up with the nonsense about how she's been with Montgomery in previous lives? In a word - whackjob.
You know, upon doing some homework I now see this woman as greater than sociopath. This non-lady seems to be able to elicit sympathy BETTER than the average I've read about here.
When you look like that, who else but a "con man" is going to marry you?
ReplyDeleteJesus Christ, is she a zombie?
ReplyDeleteThat's an insult to the dearly departed.
ReplyDeleteCreepy Woman Marries Creepy Man, Is Surprised By Outcome, Even Years Later
ReplyDeleteIt's so ironic. I take it as an illustration of the utter pointlessness of dichotomies---at least when it comes to moral distinctions.
ReplyDeleteChanneling. I wonder how many vulnerable people she now has sold on that shit? One scam deserves another, apparently.
Socio=here Non-socio=there
I think I'll start humming the "Sesame Street" opposites song now.
I just noticed that she did a review of the 48 Laws of Power a few days ago.
ReplyDeleteIn the comments everyone is literally vomiting or having 'triggering' episodes by reading excerpts.
Little does she realize that she is also empowering more sociopaths and sociopathic activity by writing this stuff up. People that are smarter than her and her audience.
I went out and bought the book shortly after my breakup, but not in order to "know my enemy," but in order to become the enemy.
I've mellowed out a bit since then, but still...
M.E.'s getting lazy.
ReplyDelete"Channeling. I wonder how many vulnerable people she now has sold on that shit? One scam deserves another, apparently."
ReplyDeleteexactly.
She's just as much of a con as he was.
TNP, sorry you were dissapointed in my comment last night. I really didn't take it personally I just wanted to make it clear that I don't bitch about anything and it seemed like it was aimed at the general population of women here. Friends?
Look at her when she was young and full of life. Mr. Montgomery went and sucked that bitch dry. Now she's a bitter old prune. Her face looks like agony. I wish I could see a reality show of the whole marriage. What a laugh it would've been when she found out he had a kid during their marriage with some other bird.
ReplyDeleteshe lost me at "past life" and how he raped, muredered, blah, blah in each one.
ReplyDeletebut more importantly
THAT MAN IS UGLY AS HELL! she may not be hot in modern standards but she's decent and average yet married an ugly dude. if you're gonna go through all of that at least let him be goodlooking. and it seems she married him cause she thought he was a successful rich business man. if you marry an ugly man or woman it better be because you deeply love him or her
usually, hot men get a bad rap that they're players or dogs or you would expect him to be that way because he's goodlooking. but i have found that ugly men are worse.
I hate ugly people
ReplyDeleteShe claims that once she "healed" she was able to find "love and joy".
ReplyDeleteBullshit. Her eyes and face are so full of bitter fucking rage, still. She looks like she could go on a murdering rampage at any second if she could see what she was doing for all the crocodile tears she'd be shedding.
(Her new husband looks like a Stepford Husband.)
You're all being melodramatic, she looks decent. Who cares if she is ripping vulnerable women off? Shouldn't we applaud her for that?
ReplyDeleteIf I was in the market for a book like hers, I wouldn't buy from her.
ReplyDeleteIf someone tells me she's all "healed", "full of joy and love", and has "never been happier" then I want to see the results in her demeanor.
If you think she looks decent I would hate to see what you look like.
ReplyDeleteOh and I suppose the women's stories are more legitmate then her's?
ReplyDeleteLook at you all suffering still after the fact.
Have you really done any better?
Her new husband isn't half the man she thought montgomery was. What a let down for her. She swallowed all of his bullshit stories of being in the special forces, and owning atlantic city. She's so fucking stupid. Once someone says they were in the special forces I automatically switch off the rest of the bullshit story they are going to tell me next.
ReplyDeleteThat doesn't make sense.
ReplyDeleteWho's suffering? You seem to forget your on sociopathworld.
ReplyDeleteShe is doing better than any of you here, so you can't really talk.
ReplyDeleteDonna's checklist for her lovefraud followers: (WARNING- LONG POST)
ReplyDeleteLaw 2: Never put too much trust in friends, learn how to use enemies (she's using her ex)
Law 3: Conceal your intentions
Law 5: So much depends on reputation—guard it with your life
Law 6: Court attention at all cost
Law 8: Make other people come to you—use bait if necessary
Law 9: Win through your actions, never through argument
Law 11: Learn to keep people dependent on you
Law 16: Use absence to increase respect and honor (I doubt she responds hastily to her followers)
Law 21: Play a sucker to catch a sucker—seem dumber than your mark
(although she is that dumb, she still manages to catch more suckers)
Law 23: Concentrate your forces
Law 24: Play the perfect courtier
Law 25: Re-create yourself
Law 26: Keep your hands clean
Law 27: Play on people’s need to believe to create a cult-like following
Law 28: Enter action with boldness
Law 29: Play all the way to the end
Law 31: Control the options: Get others to play with the cards you deal
Law 32: Play to people’s fantasies
Law 34:Be royal in your own fashion: Act like a king to be treated like a king
Law 37: Create compelling spectacles
Law 43: Work on the hearts and minds of others
Law 45: Preach the need for a change, but never reform too much at once
Can we say pot calling the kettle black.
@ this i know... Go away Donna.
ReplyDeleteI have an itch, sociopathworld is going to get a major attack from lovefrauders.
ReplyDeleteYeah I can tell by her weepy fucking site talking about how we dick over saps like you. I've never given any of my exes a second thought. They go straight into the garbage. Just like Donna.
ReplyDeleteYou and Donna on the otherhand have to look up everything about HIM. (I notice you guys like to capitalize things on your site). Hell, she built her whole fucking life around him. Look at her. He must feel great. I would. A whole populated hate site about how he conned her. What a tribute.
Her husband must feel like shit. He knows he won't ever be Montgomery. Ol monty had her the way he could never have. He hit that button so well she was fucking puddy. I wonder if one day he's going to snap and say, "Enough about montgomery!"
I'm not even agreeing with her, but to each their own.
ReplyDeleteAnd FU ASSANONOMUS
It makes certain people feel they are so much better then other's to criticize from their armchairs.
Donna's list sounds like we should all become S/P's.
I don't think thats productive either.
Did he conned?
ReplyDeleteLove frauders no better than to come here. They always end up leaving with suicidal thoughts.
ReplyDelete(I notice you guys like capitalize things on your site).
ReplyDeleteFU ASSANONOMUS
What a fucking Muppet.
LOL (more caps for you)
ReplyDeleteyes, i kinda agree Aerianne, she looks so intense butt i think her bitterness comes from not being able to get the court ordered money back from him, and not because he has any type of pscyhological hold on her. but this occured years and years ago, she needs to move on, completely forget about the money she lost and stop using him as a crutch for her site. it's a fine line between getting over someone and continuously talking about them as an example of a bad relationship, the flip side is that you never get over it, if you keep referencing them.
ReplyDeleteMonty is a cunt.
ReplyDeleteI think the psychological hold is obvious, how can you think otherwise. The money has nothing to do with it. It was the betrayal, and the realization that she had been used. She dated him six months and married him? Stupid bitch. She deserved him. Broken people always deserve each other.
ReplyDeleteThis I Know: Fuck that lady and everyone on that site. There's even grown fucking men in there crying like bitches. Its shameful. This fucking guy went on and on about the laws of power on there and listed every single law in detail of how it related to some bird that fucked him over. Every reader starts with some brief sympathy for the last wall of tears text, and off they go trying to bury people in their misery.
I read that 48 laws of power book and its all shit I have been doing for a long time. Maybe it comes naturally to sociopaths and this guy had to write it down so these people know our tricks. Fucking traitor.
Monty is hilarious. I would pay to see him con her into marrying him and how he swindled her outta every fucking coin she had.
ReplyDeleteI don't go to that site, have looked at it because it was mentioned on here but it seemed useless (at least for me)
ReplyDeleteI enjoy this one because of the interaction and enlightenment it brings. Can't say I understand what it's like to be a sociopath but I do respect all of you that really interact on a honest level.
Ukan I think your insight into what Donna is about is uncanny.
this i know is an ass kisser. what # rule are you trying to use on ukan? lols
ReplyDeleteanybody with eyes can see what that woman is about.
This pretty much sums up how I feel about lovefraud.
ReplyDeleteShe and Vaknin are making decent coin by pandering to victims, and they're both ugly bastards. A match made in heaven. They can fuck in beds full of money soaked in tears. Donna will get bored of her Stepford husband. She's going to need what Monty gave her eventually.
Ahhh I love kissing ass.
ReplyDelete@ ukan. she married after six months because he appeared to be wealthy, it sure as hell was not his good looks and classic handsomeness, nah she saw $$ signs, and then she invested more money in his alledged businesses because she thought she or they would reap huge amounts of profit and become richer, so now she lost it all, she not only lost her hard earned savings, but she lost it to a jackass, who is ugly, and who used her. she's driven by hatred, yes, but not "i loved that bastard with all my heart and he left me for another woman" type hatred. her hatred is more along the lines of "i married that bastard and he took all my money"
ReplyDeleteAnyone with eyes can see what your about anonymous. You're not about shit.
ReplyDeleteNotable, you better hope Vaknin didn't see that. He will send his goons after you. A malignant narcissist takes everything seriously, even the internet.
ReplyDeleteI suspect Donna has made back many times more than the money Monty conned out of her by the Love Fraud Business he basically helped her start. So, she really should be thanking him. BTW, when I first heard about this, yesterday, from Medusa, I thought DONNA was the "Love Fraud". And her second husband has gigolo written all over him.
ReplyDeleteYou can't search for narcissism these days, without Sam Vaknin being related. He is basically the voice of today's narcissism.
ReplyDeleteVaknin never said he was a victim, he says openly that he is a predator. Did you see the documentary? His wife walked outside for two minutes and Vaknin was already smearing her.
ReplyDeleteYou completely missed the point, anon.
ReplyDeleteI sort of agree with Anon 9.07. I fail to see how this is about love for her. Love can't harbour this amount of prolonged bitterness, not in my book anyway. To have sustained this business of hers for as long as she has over the initial period after the betrayal, seems unbelievable to me. To have built her life around this, is rather, well, nauseating.
ReplyDeleteShe seems possessed or god knows what. Lordy.
@ukan, huhh??? i'm confused.
ReplyDeleteHow so TNP?
ReplyDeleteYour wrong. She would throw everything she had away for love, and she did. You can tell she was more hurt by his deciet, cheating, and bigomy than anything else. When you look at people you have to use their soft eyes to see them. Instead, anonymous, you project yourself into their situation, as if you were there. That's why all you can see is the money. You fail to see all the angles because you can't see past yourself.
ReplyDeleteMonty saw it though. He saw a emotionally unstable codependant women with a lot of cash. He wisked her away with his australian accent and tales of australian special forces and their hunt for crocadile dundee. She probably told all her friends who had almost lost hope that she would ever find someone. He hitter with the question quick because she was already done. She was ready fucking made. She probably hung out with him everyday for those sixth months while he filled her head with all the shit she needed to hear. All the holes childhood had left her. All her ghosts. Gone. In his hands. Then: She was his. She was his because with him was the only time in her life where she felt complete. He held her hostage with that.
this blog is funny. there are more paranoids and schizoids on this blog than my local mental hospital center. if someone is "anonymous" take them at their word that they are not TNP,peter pan, not me, harry, daniel, or whoever the hell else. "other" people actually read and comment on this blog. morons.
ReplyDeleteBrilliant show Monty! Fucking spectacular!
ReplyDeleteI think the anon title is a sociopathworld graveyard. For all the people that said something so fucking stupid that they can't come back anymore.
ReplyDelete@UKAN, really you sound naive. that's the problem with men, you think that all women fall in love with men because of their great personality and sense of adventure. does this look like the kind of woman who would marry a bum? do you honestly think she got sold on just his personality? she went for the ride cause he presented a false sense of stature(wealth). not only was he adventurous, and manly, but he was successful. or so he appeared.
ReplyDeleteyou want her to be the typical, stereotypical dumb broad who fell head over heels in some Fabio romance novel. she may want you and her readers to believe that, but i see past that b.s.
Check my link, Anon.
ReplyDeleteUkan, I see what you mean. I guess it's just that my experience of love and take on it is a bit different to hers. I guess i find that putting all your eggs in one basket, rather troublesome. I assume she didn't have the trust issues that I have. Oh well. Each to their own. Whatever it is, that site sets my teeth on edge.
ReplyDeleteHuman desperation plays a huge factor.
ReplyDeletePeople can look at a situation and know at their gut that it is too good to be true. Instead, they'll eat up the BS in the vain hope that if they roll the dice, they'll win, and win big.
It's simple gambling, where the losses can be staggering.
I want to buy monty boy a beer.
ReplyDeleteThat's true Note. It is a gamble.
ReplyDeleteI'll only gamble if I'm the one responsible for the outcome, with no one else to blame if it goes wrong.
Being angry at someone for it is not how i want to live my life.
But like I said, each to their own.
ok class, lets all watch the video again:
ReplyDelete"I thought I was marrying a successful businessman"
"He took all of my money,about a quarter of a million dollars and left me in debt"
"He cheated me out of almost everything i owned"
"He said that my investmens would be profitable and would look good for my portfolio"
"James didn't pay any of it, he left the country and i collected a grand totoal of $517.00
-she was only married for two years, surely she's had longer meaningul relationships that lasted longer than two years. she didn't marry him for love.
Case Closed
In the end, she fucked him up ten times worse than he did.
ReplyDeleteThousands of people know his name, his face, and where he is from. This is living proof that she is more vengeful than he. I don't think he was a psychopath, he strikes me more of the narcissistic Madoff schemer type.
Psychopaths are into blood and torture and other freaky shit, narcissists look for prestige.
ReplyDeletei agree 9:57am, i'm thinking that he's just a douche bag who womanizes, is a serial cheater, and who saw an opportunity to take advantage of someone's money. a sociopath doesn't seem like he'll marry the mother of one of the six women he cheated on her with. would a sociopath cheat, and have a child out of wedlock, offcourse, but to marry the mother? what for? sociopaths love their freedom.
ReplyDeleteand if you look at that woman's face, she has more balls than most men, she doesn't play. she's not some wimpering lithe flower, she will hunt you down and get her revenge. she's the strong type so i don't buy her i was heartbroken pleas.
lastly, sociopaths protect their IMAGE of how other's see them. I happen to know of one such pig but yet he still has all these women fooled because the does nice things for them after he breaks their heart so they get confused and don't spread lies(or truths) about how he's no good.
A psychopath is more mentally unstable than a narcissist, I'm talking about about impulse control.
ReplyDeleteMy friend told me about a guy she used to date, he was addicted to child pornography, she only found out when she searched his laptop, there was also tons of torture videos, and girls as young as twelve getting abused. He was physically abusive and beat her a number of times.
*one about :P
ReplyDeleteI don't get it. If the foundation of a sociopath is the lack of conscience, then why are so many sadistic? Isn't that more than "A lack of conscience" it's being deliberately evil.
ReplyDeleteDoes this mean, that if you strip the conscience from every single person, underneath is am animal like predatory mindset?
I think this site proves thats not true. @ Anon.10:35
ReplyDeleteI'm sure she reads this blog. I wonder what her thoughts are about what's being said here today. HMMM. I Wonder what some of her comments by be.
ReplyDeleteI mean might be..
ReplyDeleteNever trust a man with a weak chin.
ReplyDeleteOr a woman with dead beady eyes and too many past lives.
My problem is not that she was a conned. Sure, she was. An idiot not to see the signs, and an idiot in that she couldn't/refuses see what her own reasons for being into this guy was, at least publicly. But what can you do. We are all idiots until we are not anymore.
ReplyDeleteMy problem is that she takes absolutely no responsibility for being an idiot. The closest she comes is by blaming her past lives, instead of the current one, and using the "there's a reason for everything" cop out. No taking a look at herself, no encouraging her followers to do the same.
Instead she's making them even weaker than they were in the first place. Cry cry! Trigger trigger! Demons here! Demons there! As if No Contact is the cure. If I can't see it or hear it, it doesn't exist! Bullshit.
Like those three monkeys.
She's either a moron or a opportunist.
She is an opportunist, plain and simple. She's now capitalizing on her crusade through book sales and publicity.
ReplyDeleteShe lacks basic humility and self-introspection, at least on a public level. She vengefully tainted Monty's image, what little was left, and now she had married a trophy husband who has the shadow of "an evil man" from which he must avoid that constantly follows this woman. He saw what happened to the last guy. All she has to do is cry wolf on him, and with her influence and "expertise", who is to question her "authority" within the Victim community?
She was heart-broken by the deceit because she let herself fall in love with a man buried in red flags and was left to look like a sucker. She evokes pity for being a fool and played, when she fell in love with the Idea of the man, instead of the man himself. This is a core weakness most people have. They sell themselves on who they want their lover to be, and impose their own blind spots. They do half the work for you.
She's no better than her ex, in that she is profiting of the pain, suffering, and misunderstanding of victims in harmful relationships. The only difference is that she's raking in the dough and admiration of someone who has already been victimized, as opposed to the one doing it.
She's nothing more than a vulture.
Creepy Woman Marries Creepy Man, Is Surprised By Outcome, Even Years Later
ReplyDeleteMedusa, you are incredibly lovely.
I read that 48 laws of power book and its all shit I have been doing for a long time.
Completely agree, UKan. I don't see how people don't think that way by default. How do they make decisions?
My problem is that she takes absolutely no responsibility for being an idiot.
People like her never take responsibility. They have a complete inability to look at themselves as fallible humans instead of the special snowflake royalty that their mommy's told them they were.
wv: crangst
ReplyDeleteI think that pretty much sums it up.
I've seen a few reviews/overviews for that author's books. I saw no reason to purchase them. Like Pythias said, that's how I've always operated. The idea of purchasing a list of my MO seems absurd. I guess some people need a handbook on how to be a bastard, and some of us are born with it. Kudos to him for making a buck off it, though.
ReplyDeletecheck your mail notable, i sent you a mail.
ReplyDeleteNeither would I, Note. Ammy emailed me a copy. :)
ReplyDeleteI only got through about a 1/4 of the 48 Laws, because after a while I figured it out on my own. I found the writing, upon first glance, to be unnecessarily written in a "hee hee hee we are bad guys" tone but the basis of it still stands. Neither good nor evil, just reality.
ReplyDeleteIt's still sitting here right next to my bed though, nestled between a Nick Cave novel that I'm reading and an old witchcraft book with a pleasing hardcover design that I've had since I was a tween.
Fucking goth
ReplyDeleteBetter goth than zombie.
ReplyDeleteFucking gangsta.
Anon 9:55, if you think she married him for money, you are a fool. It takes a lot more to con someone like that than pretending to be rich. You have no clue at all on how to manipulate people, because you are still too focused on yourself. If she was about her money she would've invested in him, and he would have approached it different. The fact that he married her to get at that gold tells you that he had to get her really emotionally vulnerable. Look at the bitterness. You think she's that bitter over the money? come on.
ReplyDeleteWhat kind of spells do you got in that witchcraft book medusa?
ReplyDeleteHeh.
ReplyDeleteMarrying people is a little extreme to pull off a con, and a hell of a long-term investment and paper trail. Definitely easier ways to get money out of people.
Zombies vs Muppets
ReplyDelete(Donna vs The Mirror)
Whatever kind of spells you want, UKan.
ReplyDeleteOnly ever did one, many many years ago, and it worked fantastically.
A couple years ago I contemplated calling up a so-called 'demon', because I was horny and uninterested in the stupidity of humanity.
Got what I asked for within a couple weeks.
All that shit is unnecessary and are basically just symbolic rituals. Nothing supernatural about it. People who call themselves 'witches' don't get that.
Don't need swords and cups and grimoires and Renaissance festivals to exert your will and intention.
You know what it would be great guys? If all of us posted our facebook details here and then liked eachother's pictures.
ReplyDeleteOkay, go first.
ReplyDeleteI'll bite.
ReplyDeleteMy Facebook profile
yeahright.facebook.com
ReplyDeleteMy facebook profile, for real
ReplyDeleteStraight edge, lol
ReplyDeleteGunna getcha getcha coming to getcha getcha
ReplyDeleteAnybody else with the guts to post it?
ReplyDeleteGuts has nothing to do with it.
ReplyDeleteBesides, I thought you were Romanian, not Irish.
I am both.
ReplyDeleteConsistency is more useful than either truth or lies.
ReplyDeleteNotable around here???
ReplyDeleteYou got mail
Yeah, so how about that facebook page?
ReplyDeleteNever knew you were friends with the amazing atheist.
ReplyDeleteWhy does everyone always have to look like Henry Rollins?
ReplyDeleteIt's like the stereotype sociopath look.
Oh wait, you are the lookalike. You aren't even half Romanian.
ReplyDeleteWhat do you want with a facebook page, Mike?
ReplyDeleteMake friends...
ReplyDeleteHe looks like the sociable hipster sort.
ReplyDeleteI see, Mike.
ReplyDeleteI wonder if Mike really knows that dude and is trying to fuck with him.
ReplyDeleteLike getting 100 pizzas delivered to someone's home for fun.
Who looks like Henry Rollins?
ReplyDeleteI don't know. Everyone on my facebook friends list is someone I know in real life.
ReplyDeleteI don't even have a facebook page. I don't want people finding me that I stopped contacting, I don't like new faces, and I don't want to see sammy's first step.
ReplyDeleteSo i am the only one who posted his facebook page... That saddens me...
ReplyDeleteWow, I just saw this news on google.
ReplyDeleteObama Wants Internet ID For All Americans.
Mike, if I send you a message on facebook YOU will get it?
ReplyDeleteThe correct form is "will YOU get it", and no.
ReplyDeleteI have to say your the only one with guts to put up your Facebook, but you already have over a thousand freinds. If thats really you then never say anything illegal or incriminating.
ReplyDeletelol..sure. just checking.
ReplyDeleteWhat could i SAY that's illegal? I voted for Bush ?
ReplyDeleteWhat about incriminating? I was the one that killed John Lennon ?
Dooh...
Some of you here might actually appreciate this Nick Cave book.
ReplyDeleteIt's about an alcoholic traveling salesman who only sees vagina when he has his eyes open, his wife who goes all BPD and commits suicide, and his 9-year-old aspie son who looks up to him, whom he treats alternately like a tumor, a mirror or a beer cozy.
...oh yeah, and a serial killer who runs around in devil horns stabbing women with a garden trident.
ReplyDeleteThat sounds rich, Medusa.
ReplyDeleteA guy I suspect is more N than anything saw my "48 Laws of Power" book and said the funniest thing... "Why would you be reading THAT book? That's what a lot of the guys I knew in prison read..." and by the end of the night, the game was up.
ReplyDeleteIt's funny -- I really just wanted to play "let's take over the world" with this guy -- but by the end of the night he was calling me an "enemy" and was really shaken up -- trying to catch me in a game that I wasn't necessarily playing WITH HIM.
All over a stupid book.
It's not a bad book -- I like anecdotes. He hadn't ever really read it. I like the fact that it gives me permission to do what I already do.
I am angry that I left the book in sight when he came over. By the end of the night, he "abandoned" me -- when he realized that I was not a "real" narcisstic supply. Which pissed me off - a lot of effort. But he is a classic N, and he WILL be back, when he needs something.
I have my own little social circle, and I probably won't want to play by then.
I may not be an S or an N, something in between -- or undeveloped. I AM a fantastic liar, and manipulator, and the biggest game I play is doing what it takes to get what I want. I never want anything for long, I bore easily.
I am pretty sure that it's the silliest thing that HE can do -- but most likely, it was just an excuse to go back to fucking other people. It's a great excuse for me to go back to ignoring the world and - well, having little to no sex drive.
For some reason I only like to "love and leave" guys with tremendous egos.
Good for you sarahlee, good for you...
ReplyDeleteTrue internet anonymity is an illusion. Anyone can be tracked down. Having a government run system could expedite that, I suppose, but no one's truly anonymous, even when they're proxy hopping.
ReplyDeleteStraight edge, heh. Some of the biggest douchebags in music. Maybe they'd lighten up with a few.
Nick Cave is writing the script for the re-make of The Crow, by the way.
ReplyDeleteThe only movie I ever walked out of.
I never watched The Crow.
ReplyDeleteI walked out of Furry Vengeance and Madagascar, two movies which I wholeheartedly question my sanity for even purchasing a ticket.
ReplyDeleteI watched a whole lot of 80s and 90s movies, so I have an incredibly high tolerance for mindless crap. Apparently I have limits, though.
I should also note that Andy Dick has an obnoxious voice, and anything with him or his voice in it instantly lowers my opinion of it. I think I was watching a kid's show or movie with a nephew with him as the voice actor and I wanted to shut it off. Can't stand that Dick.
"It's like this, Bunny Boy: if you walk up to an oak tree or an bloody elm or something — you know, one of those big bastards — one with a thick, heavy trunk with giant roots that grow deep in the soil and great branches that are covered in leaves, right, and you walk up to it and give the tree a shake, well, what happens?"
ReplyDelete"I don't really know, Dad," says Bunny Junior, listening intently, retaining the information and knowing, in time, he will probably understand.
"Well, nothing bloody happens, of course!" says Bunny, and he slows the Punto to halt. "You can stand there shaking it till the cows come home and all that will happen is your arms will get tired. Right? But if you go up to a skinny, dry, fucked-up little tree, with a withered trunk and a few leaves clinging on for dear life, and you put your hands around it and shake the shit out of it — as we say in the trade — those bloody leaves will come flying off! Yeah? Now, the big oak tree is the rich bastard, right, and the skinny tree is the poor cunt who hasn't got any money. Are you with me?
Bunny Junior nods.
"Now, that sounds easier than it actually is, Bunny Boy. Do you want to know why?"
"Ok, Dad."
"Because every fucking bastard and his dog has got hold of the little tree and is shaking it for all that it's worth — the government, the bloody landlord, the lottery they don't have a chance in hell of winning, the council, their bloody exes, their hundred snotty-nosed brats running around because they are too bloody stupid to exercise a bit of self-control, all the useless shit they see on TV, fucking Tesco, parking fines, insurance on this and insurance on that, the boozer, the fruit machines, the bookies — every bastard and his three-legged, one-eyed, pox-ridden dog are shaking this little tree," says Bunny, clamping his hands together and making like he is throttling someone.
"So what do you go and do, Dad?" says Bunny Junior.
"Well, you've got to have something they think they need, you know, above all else."
"And what's that, Dad?"
"Hope... you know...the dream. You've got to sell them the dream."
"And what's the dream, Dad?"
"What's the dream?" He looks at Bunny Junior, squares his shoulders, opens the door to the Punto, points his thumb at his chest and says, "Me."
Long comment gone to spam. Well worth reading when it shows up, though.
ReplyDeleteI hear the Final Jeopardy Theme playing in my head as I wait for Medusa's long comment to appear.
ReplyDeleteIt must be one long damn comment.
ReplyDeleteIt puts the text in the bin or it goes back to spam again!
ReplyDeleteShe married what she thought was a rich business man to mooch of him instead he mooches off her whats the difference? Who is the sociopath? He settled down with the woman he had a child to well at least he is a responsible father. But wait! Thats in contradiction to the definition of a sociopath!
ReplyDeleteIn 2010 in the UK Stephen Griffiths, a PhD student who was studying criminology at the University of Bradford and specialising in homicide was while studying a practicing serial killer. Proving conclusively that there is no condition of "sociopath" it is nonsense and destructive to the legal profession the mental health system and society as a whole.
Because non of his professors noticed anything unusual about him. These people would be the first to appear in front of a camera after some other serial killers spree being wise after the event saying the killer displayed typical signs of being a sociopath to justify their fraudulent existense.
Because everyone can spot a sociopath...if they can't, they don't exist.
ReplyDeleteActually, some did see it coming. Says so right here.
ReplyDeleteHe was a mess.
ReplyDeleteThat's it. Not only should prostitution be decriminalized, but all sex workers should start carrying guns. And be taught martial arts. And have small arsenals. Etc.
ReplyDeleteAfter a while, sex workers would no longer have small arse...nals.
ReplyDeleteOk fine.
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ReplyDelete"Well, nothing bloody happens, of course!" says Bunny, and he slows the Punto to halt. "You can stand there shaking it till the cows come home and all that will happen is your arms will get tired. Right? But if you go up to a skinny, dry, fucked-up little tree, with a withered trunk and a few leaves clinging on for dear life, and you put your hands around it and shake the shit out of it — as we say in the trade — those bloody leaves will come flying off! Yeah? Now, the big oak tree is the rich bastard, right, and the skinny tree is the poor cunt who hasn't got any money. Are you with me?
ReplyDeleteBunny Junior nods.
"Now, that sounds easier than it actually is, Bunny Boy. Do you want to know why?"
"Ok, Dad."
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ReplyDeleteEh, fuck it. Just buy the book.
ReplyDeleteOr read page 108 to the middle of page 110.
ReplyDeleteBed time stories by Nick Cave.
ReplyDeleteIt says I can't read it. I wanted to summon a damn demon damn you.
ReplyDeleteYou are one of the demons that can be summoned, dumbass.
ReplyDeleteUKan, lol, it's not the witchcraft book.
ReplyDeleteFunny, I always thought I came into peoples life at my own leisure.
ReplyDeleteWell, then, consider yourself schooled.
ReplyDeleteThis is pretty amusing - the demon and the gorgon circling each other. I'd be scared shitless if this wasn't the internet~
ReplyDeleteBUNNY MUNRO!!!!!!!
ReplyDeleteI read this a few months ago. Have you seen The Proposition, Medusa?
Man, Donna. From previous mentions of lovefraud.com here I expected her to be pretty nutty, but...yikes.
If she really had $1/4 mil I'm guessing she saw the two of them as some kind of "power couple". She thought she'd met someone her equal or better(in her mind). Having your heart broken happens, sociopath or non-sociopath. Being left destitute by someone you thought loved you is harder to swallow. Not because of the money, specifically, but because the person didn't just walk and leave you, but they also just totally fucked up your whole program and didn't give a shit what happened to you.
Lovefraud seemed uninteresting to me. I felt like I got swindled emotionally by my ex, but he didn't use me for any kind of material or prestige; I've got a certain amount of both in certain (small)circles, but nothing that would warrant a surreptitious takeover. It seemed like(and still does) that it was a valid attempt at having something real, just not an honest one and I ended up totally confused.
I came here because I wanted to understand what happened, not bitch about it(too much), I already know how miserable it was and how caught off guard I was to find out he was so different from what I took for granted about people(empathy) and also different from my previous understanding of sociopathy(serial killers, convicts).
But, I have to agree, I don't see Donna as so virtuous. I do think that she was smart to make a silk purse out of a sow's ear. Is she doing anything that doesn't make sense to a sociopath? She's gotta be living off this Monty and has the bulk of the people who are aware of him thinking of him as a total beast. Excellent revenge and she can laugh all the way to the bank.
Personally I find her predatory nature to be repugnant, but brilliant in its own way.
What the fuck are these things? Nat Sherman Classics? These fuckers pack a punch...
ReplyDeleteAnyway, I just find her repugnant. She's a little goblin shoved in a lady suit.
a little goblin shoved in a lady suit
ReplyDeleteNow, we have the demon, the gorgon and the goblin. Oh, my!
(WTF was the whining and going on about with a few zodiac characters?!)
Now we just need DRAGONLORD666 to show up and we have a fourth wheel to our mystical asshats convention.
ReplyDeleteWho dared to evoke the terrible Dragon Lord???
ReplyDeleteYou shall know my horrible wrath, human!!!
TOTALLY a goblin. On the nose!
ReplyDeleteBut....you call *that* a lady suit? hmph. :P
Okay, yep, now I'm scared. Thanks for that, Note.~
ReplyDeleteWhere are Medusa and UKan? I bet they're off doing the cyber-nasty together!~
ReplyDeleteMedusa, quick!
ReplyDeleteWe need an asshat-antidote spell!
WV-traymps .....indeed! (I'm hearing it with a thick southern accent)
Great. Now we're going to need to convince He-Man to save a sociopath enclave. Sounds like a hard sell.
ReplyDeleteBy the Power of GraySkull!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
ReplyDeleteNever fear! Uber Empath is here!
ReplyDeleteSheeee-Rah!!!!
ReplyDeleteFinally, I feel safe.
ReplyDelete(Never call a man to do a woman's job.)
*Chirping*
ReplyDeleteI watched about ten seconds before I started laughing.
ReplyDeleteAll I heard was, "This one time, I was lonely." Lmao
I started laughing when I saw the lovefraud symbol. Gotta love comedy hour.
ReplyDeleteHuh wha
ReplyDeleteYou heard me, Gorgon.
ReplyDeletewv: bedlure
WHA?!
Fuck
ReplyDeleteUp
ReplyDeleteYo
ReplyDeleteMomma
ReplyDeleteWell, that's jes' plain weeeiiird
ReplyDeleteYes it is.
ReplyDelete...I love you lot. You're great.
ReplyDeleteI am loving life. Seriously, all the people on here that are depressed with life are missing out. I decided this year I love it so much I started researching into how to extend it.
ReplyDeleteI found a company that will cryo your head or body (a lot more expensive). They preserve you till they can repair your body in the future, or transplant the parts of your brain that hold your identity and memories into a cloned shell. Only problem is you have to make sure you die at a bed with technicians. I don't know how good my odds are there, but I like to cheat when it comes to playing for keeps.
I love the idea that I was born at a time where I have a chance to haunt humanity forever.
it looks like an angry man wearing a wig...and lets face it...she's a ranga so she deserves what she gets..haha!
ReplyDeleteHow much does it cost?
ReplyDeleteI think that Ronald McDonald and Chucky fucked and had her.
ReplyDeleteWAY TOO FUNNY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
DeleteThey did...they got it on at Chuck e Cheese and then they gave birth at some zoo..the zoo wanted to keep her but no one would visit her in her cage so they let her go.
haha..she is a MORON!!! she's talking about squeezing all the pus out of her wounds and filling them with love and joy - maybe she should approach a bandaid company with that idea and see if it can make her another few Mill$$..."don't just cover your pus filled wounds..fill them..with love and joy!!"...... :|
ReplyDeletePause the vid at 6:23..HI-larious!!
ReplyDeleteSo you was depressed until 2011?
ReplyDeleteShe has that pathological liar smile going on.
ReplyDeleteUkan?? How much is it? And why isn't this huge news..
ReplyDeleteHow can you all beat on this poor poor woman? She is a jeanus. Clearly she has taken God into her heart and mind and his love has filled her. I send all of my love to all of you so tat your hearts will be joyful and you will pull your heads out of your fucking arses, get jobs and stop masturbating over your glaring inadequacies by big-noting yourselves on a site dedicated to a mental deficiency. Peace Out bitches.
ReplyDeletewtf is a jeanis
ReplyDeleteu-no asshole...."jeanus"..like really smart - don't make me explain everytjhhijhvsa to you
ReplyDeleteSo. Ukan likes beanpolls. Nice to know.
ReplyDeleteUKan is turning into Walt Disney.
ReplyDeleteNext, he will start talking about becoming a socialist freemason.
Chucky
ReplyDeleteThank you! I could not place who it was that she reminded me so much of!
Here's a question: If a sociopath met her after having read her book, thus knowing exactly what he was getting into and what she'd be looking for, would it be possible to fool her again?
ReplyDeleteI don't think I could pull it off, but I was just thinking how hilarious it would be if her new hubby turned out to be one as well.
I'm dating someone that has a fairly extensive academic knowledge of most of the PDs and doesn't suspect a thing. Everyone has blind spots, and this broad is dumb enough to list hers.
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ReplyDeleteI don't get it. She thought she was marrying a millionare so her heart swelled and it turned out he took a quarter million dollars from her instead. She considers that "love", but probably passed up the guy that actually liked her because he didn't appear as successful as her sociopath.
ReplyDeleteAm I the only one who understands this correctly?
Am I the only one who understands this correctly?
ReplyDeleteYes. You must be a fucking genius.
It doesn't take a genius to listen to her talking points and figure out what she cared most about. I don't like her. I don't like her sociopath either, but I don't feel sorry for her one bit. I'm also quite certain that if she had more down to earth talking points as to why WE should hate him I would feel a LITTLE bit sorry for her and say "yeah, wow, that one's a piece of shit." But it aint happenin, she's not genuine either. Even if he is a sociopath and not simply smart enough to see what I see, fuck both of them and their bullshit story.
ReplyDeleteDidn't see any comment re her 'spiritual guide' BS. WTF is up with the nonsense about how she's been with Montgomery in previous lives? In a word - whackjob.
ReplyDeleteYeah, someone commented up the line and said something like "She lost me at past lives".
ReplyDeleteYou know, upon doing some homework I now see this woman as greater than sociopath. This non-lady seems to be able to elicit sympathy BETTER than the average I've read about here.
ReplyDeleteHer new man must be shitting his pants.
ReplyDeleteI'd smash her
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