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Wednesday, January 19, 2011

Scans and video games

This Daily Mail article discusses one scientist's attempt to locate the anxiety center of the brain using fMRI scans. Apart from being a welcome reminder of how little we really know about the human brain, there was also this juicy bit of moralizing:
The worst combination, apparently, is a combination of extremely low anxiety levels and ‘dubious morality’ - the stuff of serial killers and psychopaths.

Fortunately, or perhaps not, we are a long way from being able to scan potential troublemakers to see if they have the makings of a killer.

But the more we learn about the brain, and especially the more we learn what an abnormal mind looks like on a computer screen, the day when we can spot a psychopath with the aid of a video games and a scanner may one day be upon us.
Wow! That's great news! I can't wait until the days of detecting sociopaths with video games and a scanner are soon upon us. I hope the video game is World of Warcraft!

We could round them all up and intern them somewhere, maybe call the place an internment camp. Or better yet, let's concentrate them all in the same area, maybe call it a concentration camp. Let's make the brain scans mandatory to be enrolled in public school like up-to-date vaccinations, that way we'll be sure to get them all before they poison our precious youth. Better yet, let's get everyone scanned annually, just to make sure no one slips through the crack.

But you know what? This whole thing is sounding like a lot of work. Why don't you just leave all the sociocamp details to me. I'll make sure that it's all taken care of. ;)

57 comments:

  1. Some people have trust issues. If safety isn't proven, some people risk jail time. --simply because mental states cause people to hold illegal defense items.

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  2. What does one take to a sociopath camp?

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  3. Im not talking of camp, which may or may not exist. I'm talking about day to day living in the here and now. When perceptions are off, some people go to extremes to self protect.

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  5. yeah, one of my cats has been severely affected.

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  6. To nikita:

    just a joke.


    Cats are fine.

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  7. Mustard Sadist

    .....WOW!

    If brain scans became mandatory and 100% effective, many people would protest against them in the same way that they protested against the introduction of ID cards. What gives scientists the right to to look inside of our minds? That's probably what they would say, especially if some people were labelled as "trouble makers". I think that sociopaths would get the most sympathy. Lol

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  8. Aw, never fear (oh, that’s right, you don't), M.E.: The Daily Hate will probably be reporting on scientist's attempts to eliminate immigrants, hoodies, single mothers, and BBC employees using brain scans next ;)

    Bioethics is fascinating. I wonder how long it will be until prenatal 'diagnosis' of more DSM-IV 'mental disorders' is linked to selective abortion? I predict an increase in the construction of social needs for 'cleansing.'

    That said, I'm not against selective abortion, but I do worry that foetal screening for additional specific traits will contribute further to Western society being intolerant of anyone different who is not terminated.

    Men with XYY syndrome were falsely believed to be violent and imprisoned for longer as a result – they were socially discriminated against in other ways too, and experimented on without consent, in the not too distant past.

    As for identifying 'potential troublemakers', there are a whole lot of cruel brutes who are not sociopaths or psychopaths, but neurologically 'normal' people (including, er, psychologists torturing institutionalised males) who act on their heartless values and beliefs.

    I believe it's valuable to identify the influence of genes on behaviour but it should be free of harmful and shortsighted labelling that can not only lead to prejudice, but to tarnishing people on a continuum scale with one brush, and a false sense of public security too.

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  9. Wow. All they can actually detect is brain chemistry. This gives them nothing of an individuals morals or person code. Just because the brain is designed a certain way obviously doesn't indicate what the person as a whole is capable of or willing to do. I can understand the logic behind such a theory, but it complete devalues the individual person. This is fear talking.

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  10. Don't forget individual membership tattoos and brightly colored special club patches.

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  11. † Ɲᶖҟᶖϯą †January 19, 2011 at 5:30 AM

    Barcode tattoos on the back of the neck, that when scanned show all information about the person.

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  12. The video game IS World of Warcraft. At sociocamp we will be fed games like that to keep us occupied while the rest of the world, satisfied we're gone, will still mistakenly take shits all over themselves with nobody left to clean it up for them.

    Without a reality check they will all eventually become more psychopathic and during our time away we will gradually become looked at as "normal" accordingly, but we won't change while they will. We'll still be outnumbered though, so it still won't matter.

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  13. Yes, I got "WOW" a few days ago. Christ. Sometimes, yes, I do things before I know why -or I don't know what the fuck is wrong with me. Hence the interest in impulse control -or you are tapping my phones, have def hacked into my account weeks ago, motherfuckers, Which is why YOU need protection.

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  14. bored with science fiction, like today's post. what am i supposed to learn from it?

    is the point to raise paranoia in paranoid? anger in angry?

    ME certainly sounds angry enough to threaten with undisclosed war plans in his last paragraph.

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  15. I have my own psychopathic camp, i treat myself to everything, but i shit on the world.

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  16. † Ɲᶖҟᶖϯą †January 19, 2011 at 6:48 AM

    (When this began)
    I had nothing to say
    And I get lost in the nothingness inside of me
    (I was confused)
    And I let it all out to find
    That I?m not the only person with these things in mind

    (Inside of me)
    But all that they can see the words revealed
    Is the only real thing that I?ve got left to feel
    (Nothing to lose)
    Just stuck, hollow and alone
    And the fault is my own, and the fault is my own

    I wanna heal, I wanna feel
    What I thought was never real
    I wanna let go of the pain
    I?ve felt so long
    (Erase all the pain till it?s gone)

    I wanna heal, I wanna feel
    Like I?m close to something real
    I wanna find something I?ve wanted all along
    Somewhere I belong

    And I?ve got nothing to say
    I can?t believe I didn?t fall right down on my face
    (I was confused)
    Looking everywhere only to find
    That it?s not the way I had imagined it all in my mind

    (So what am I)
    What do I have but negativity
    ?Cause I can?t justify way everyone is looking at me
    (Nothing to lose)
    Nothing to gain, hollow and alone
    And the fault is my own, and the fault is my own

    I wanna heal, I wanna feel
    What I thought was never real
    I wanna let go of the pain
    I?ve felt so long
    (Erase all the pain till it?s gone)

    I wanna heal, I wanna feel
    Like I?m close to something real
    I wanna find something I?ve wanted all along
    Somewhere I belong

    I will never know
    Myself until I do this on my own
    And I will never feel
    Anything else until my wounds are healed

    I will never be
    Anything till I break away from me
    I will break away
    I'll find myself today

    I wanna heal, I wanna feel
    What I thought was never real
    I wanna let go of the pain
    I?ve felt so long
    (Erase all the pain till it?s gone)

    I wanna heal, I wanna feel
    Like I?m close to something real
    I wanna find something I?ve wanted all along
    Somewhere I belong

    I wanna heal, I wanna feel
    Like I am somewhere I belong
    I wanna heal, I wanna feel
    Like I am somewhere I belong
    Somewhere I belong

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  17. I must admit Id enjoy these scanning methods. Like anything it would be a tool rather than the definate answer to ones safety. Iv definatly been in relationships/friends with individuals who show alot of the signs.
    They are about 1 hit and run away from realising their murderious potential.
    Maybe no camps though, or sending them anywhere us Brits did that with australia now they beat us at the ashes constantly. Karma?

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  18. Aussie,aussie,aussie, OY! OY! OY!
    lmao.

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  19. is that really DidHeDiedGuy ? Hmph.

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  20. The end is nigh, and some crap.

    It's BS. People with the genetic proclivity towards sociopathy apparently have almost the same brain scans as those who have it nurtured as well.

    So, that sort of witch hunt won't likely happen unless you're in a country that doesn't mind letting loose the old genocide/purging once in a while.

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  21. I think that it would work for early intervention like other mental disabilities or mental illness. the brain scans will lead to better understanding of afflicted individuals. a better understanding of neurodiversity.

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  22. I wish you wouldn't copy and paste lyrics.

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  23. I want to run the camp. The beatings (spankings) will continue till moral picks up. Ummmmm

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  24. i am glad to be informed about all copied items, ignore phaos

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  25. Anonymous DidHeDiedGuy said...

    I have my own psychopathic camp, i treat myself to everything, but i shit on the world.

    January 19, 2011 6:22 AM

    lmao, I love it!

    Nikita: Good song, I change the lyrics up a bit though when I sing it. It's supposed to be humorous though.

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  26. Oh this hurricane's blowing us thin
    This never ending swirl of American sin
    Where I strayed on my knees to a bottomless cage
    Where they throw dollar bills and hope to be saved
    The poshest scarf on the warmest day
    It's enough to make you give up she says
    I know I know I know it shows

    As we sleep in this broken Cadillac
    We watch the world leave it doesn't look back
    I gotta say that when my heart attacks
    Don't return it, it will fire right back
    So let's just lie here as they paint us black

    Oh this earthquake is shaking our hands
    Free at the wrists just as we started a dance
    The hardest thing next to diamond rings
    Is the coats we have to wear just to make ends meet
    I got this year and fifty more to beat
    It's enough to make you give up she says
    I know I know I know so let go

    As we sleep in this broken Cadillac
    We watch the world leave it doesn't look back
    I gotta say that when my heart attacks
    Don't return it, it will fire right back
    So let's just lie here as they paint us black

    The nervous ticks only the holy get
    The country treats as the cities get sick
    The lunatics and the Harlem tricks
    The country treats as we all get sick

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  27. TNP
    People with the genetic proclivity towards sociopathy apparently have almost the same brain scans as those who have it nurtured as well.
    can you reference - would much like to read this paper.
    also - read some more of your blog (have been a bit behind) and you mention your dad was treated like a prince by his family due to cultural reasons. while not being explicit, you led me to believe yesterday my psych profile about your paternal side being from another culture was a complete miss... only thing really fitting in now is that your paternal side is native american?
    i'm just being nosy... feel free to tell me to fuck off, i'm not the emotional sensitive type ;)

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  28. in search of npd sisterJanuary 19, 2011 at 11:05 AM

    TNP, will you translate what rC is talking about?

    i get the feeling rC wants a brother, a virtual blood-connected socio brother no matter how distant

    you know what, i want a virtual npd sister, any blood goes, anybody interested?

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  29. Why would you want an npd sister?

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  30. No that's step grand parents. Why do you want to profile me, anyway? I doubt you will figure out what I am. If you do though, ill let you know.

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  31. Still masturbating.

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  32. Masturbating to TNP?

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  33. Wow.


    Seriously?


    There won't be a day I won't want to continue living, fyi.


    @Mila:
    TNP can scan my brain anytime

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  34. Re:Mila 7:03
    Aaargh!

    THat was supposed to be anon!!!!!!!

    Aaargh!!!!!!!!1

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  35. On a date with my sociopath ex at his behest. We went for dinner and drinks and a movie. Now we are drinking again. Wish me luck.

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  36. Break a leg. And maybe a kneecap :)

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  37. Hey, does my picture look nice? :D
    I love it.

    Yeah, nothing more to say since the action here is non-existent.

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  38. Yeah, where is all the action?
    I need to be entertained, Damn it!!

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  40. stuff

    for a tenuous link i'll just say she might be BPD, hehe. :)

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  41. Well. I got what I aimed for. Let's see if it's what I wanted.....

    I said (drunkenly, in bed,kinda playfully)"Tell me you missed me."

    He responded, also playfully,"My cold black heart would never permit me to admit it."

    Me, gloating,"Ah-ha! You just did!"

    I see FWB in our future.
    wv-nards (really?)

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  42. So... I guess I'm a sociopath, in the same way I have A.D.D, which is to say, I'm not entirely convinced it's a real disease.
    I fit all the symptoms, but the whole 'remorse' thing, how can you separate that from the fear of getting caught when you've, say, stollen something? It's not as though you can identify an emotion you've never had, so how would you know you've never had it?!
    I don't really enjoy hurting people.
    I tried tripping a child once as she ran past me, she fell, and cried, and didn't know I tripped her. It made me sad. Is that guilt? Maybe I just liked her better when she was happy?
    I certainly do like to screw with people that I don't respect, which is most everyone, but I don't get carried away with it, as I mostly want to be left alone. But maybe everyone likes to do that, and I'm just unusually misanthropic?
    Oh, and I can't cry, I can't even do the fake tears thing. Is that a symptom? It seems like it would be but I haven't read it anywhere.
    I've been reading peoples posts, and a lot of you seem to have a poignant sense of irony about your humor, which I share (none of which you'll find in this particular post, but then, it's anonymous, so fuck off), I've discovered many people find it off putting...
    Anyway, what do you guys think, do I sound like you?

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  43. anon 7:21

    you are not sociopath. you are just bored to death

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  44. "the whole 'remorse' thing, how can you separate that from the fear of getting caught when you've, say, stolen something?"
    Having imagined such a situation myself, and my reactions to it, I don't think you can.

    "I tried tripping a child once as she ran past me, she fell, and cried, and didn't know I tripped her. It made me sad. Is that guilt? Maybe I just liked her better when she was happy?"
    Sounds like guilt to me. Did it make you feel slightly ill?

    "But maybe everyone likes to do that, and I'm just unusually misanthropic?"
    Could well be the case.

    "Oh, and I can't cry, I can't even do the fake tears thing. Is that a symptom? It seems like it would be but I haven't read it anywhere."
    I'm sure sociopaths are quite capable of crying. I think they simply have fewer reasons to get so upset. If you seriously are UNABLE to cry, you might want to ask a doctor about it, 'cause that is a bit odd :/

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  45. Why not? I thought incessant boredom was a symptom...?

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  46. Ill? I suppose you could describe it that way.
    Well if that's guilt then I must have a selective definition of what's immoral, because I don't feel that way when I lie, cheat, and steal.
    I guess that just makes me a jerk.

    Oh, and there's nothing wrong with my tear ducts if that's what you mean, I cry sometimes when I yawn.

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  47. I don't know if that makes you a 'jerk'. A lot of people - at least in my opinion - deserve it anyway. Though the girl was just an innocent child, so you are more likely to feel guilty... I think sociopaths just don't care about anything that doesn't directly effect them. Certainly not a crying child.

    And good... I'd just guess something was wrong with a person's eyes if they were physically incapable of crying, but I wouldn't know, of course.

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  48. Yes, notme, altered states of mind along with heartbreak can sometimes bring out the juicy bdp in me. And the paranioa, and the socio. Which all really is confusing, and totally sucks -because I'm an EMPATH! Believe me.

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  49. Thank you TNP. I appreciate you turning to my channel. I am feeling safer. I am still half MiA though.

    Cheers
    Mila

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