Yes, although that is not the full picture. From the NY Times:
Researchers estimate that at least 100 studies have shown that genes play a role in crimes. “Very good methodological advances have meant that a wide range of genetic work is being done,” said John H. Laub, the director of the justice institute, who won the Stockholm Prize in Criminology last week. He and others take pains to emphasize, however, that genes are ruled by the environment, which can either mute or aggravate violent impulses. Many people with the same genetic tendency for aggressiveness will never throw a punch, while others without it could be career criminals.The article is interesting because it talks not only about one's childhood environment, but one's current environment. One such environmental factor is marriage:
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Kevin Beaver, an associate professor at Florida State University’s College of Criminology and Criminal Justice, said genetics may account for, say, half of a person’s aggressive behavior, but that 50 percent comprises hundreds or thousands of genes that express themselves differently depending on the environment.
[Steven Pinker] mentioned one of the biggest risk factors leading to crime: remaining single instead of getting married, a link uncovered by Mr. Laub and Robert J. Sampson, a Harvard sociologist who was a co-winner of the Stockholm Prize. Marriage may serve as a switch that directs male energies toward investing in a family rather than competing with other males, Mr. Pinker said.For those who are interested in improving their environment in order to maximize self control, this NY Times article about decision fatigue is good. The gist of the article is that you have limited amounts of self control, so don't waste it on unimportant things. Also be very aware of your blood glucose levels-- glucose can erase the effects of decision fatigue. It's oddly a lot of things I have just intuited about myself over the years, but still helpful to learn the science behind it.
Hmmm. To my mind crime is a social construction and deviance is ambiguous – so you can’t be biologically disposed to it. Plus, aggression is a behaviour that doesn't take place in a social vacuum.
ReplyDeleteObviously the purpose of criminology is correctional, so I'm not surprised that the study of genes is popular in the field, because it's no doubt seen as an attractive 'solution' to reducing crime rates.
However I don't believe you can predict - and therefore control for - aggression based on a person's genes.
This just about sums it up for me:
"Aggressive deviant acts share so much in common with non-aggressive deviant acts that individuals prone to commit aggressive criminal acts are prone to commit non-aggressive criminal acts as well. Thus, no individual-level trait of aggression is consistent with the results of behavioural research."
As for remaining single being one of the biggest risk factors leading to crime - maybe married men are just more adept at not getting caught, for a myriad of reasons, or domestic violence doesn't count. Then again, 'crime' in this circumstance is not defined.
If you're wordy it's your own fault for being bludgeoned -- we warn potential victims not to be wordy so that bludgeoners who are enraged by wordy people won't bludgeon them. Be more concise, or it will be entirely your fault if you're bludgeoned, and we will be forced to record whether you were blugeoned due in whole or part to your preference for light or dark chocolate on a waxing crescent or waning gibbous moon. Just sayin'.
ReplyDeleteLOL
ReplyDeleteyour all nuts, all of you, nothing you say makes any sense.. is that part of the plan? or pure self obsession? boring... i'll take some drugs, come back in an hour and maybe it will make sense then**
ReplyDeleteIts not getting married that flips the 'nice' switch and reduces aggression.
ReplyDeleteIts the regular sex.
A man will do quite a lot for good sex, especially if his wants are reciprocated.
maybe married men ARE better at not getting caught, after all, getting caught would ruin the investment they've made with their relationship. They have more to lose, ergo, are more vigilant.
@Lycan
ReplyDeleteI agree.
Married means cheaper rent.
ReplyDeleteCase closed.
And a live in maid/bed warmer.
ReplyDeleteman u stupid mutha fuckers always be dooing this shit. stfu
ReplyDeleteI agree with Prey and Lycan:
ReplyDelete"married men ARE better at not getting caught"
For the reasons Lycan said for some i guess would be to protect the family as an investment or because you care about them, i will play my roll as a family man i will protect and provide of course i will not at any time leave my extra curricular activities behind
Ms Moffit and Pinker Beaver all in one article.
ReplyDeleteAm i supposed to take their research seriously?
wv: vicepet
@anon 3.47
ReplyDeleteThink of something of VALUE to say, and learn to spell you snaggle toothed inbred.
@medusa
ReplyDeleteBut cheaper rent with good sex, nice boobs and a warm firm ass is good too.
man stupid mutha fuckers like u alwayz b sayin that shit
ReplyDeleteChoice!
ReplyDelete@anon 4.39
ReplyDeleteLycan, foolish dolts of suspect parentage like yourself are always spouting inane drivel.
thats what you MEANT to say.....isnt it?
Go back to playing angry birds on your droid phone you malodorous fucktard.
Lycan, foolish dolts of suspect parentage like yourself are always spouting inane drivel.
ReplyDeleteMaybe it is due to a lack of good sex, nice boobs and a warm firm ass.
ReplyDeletemaaaaaaaaan shut yo cracker ass up mutha fucka
ReplyDelete@selene
ReplyDeleteYou may be onto something there ;_)
@anon.
ReplyDeletelmfao
Inbred afro-am trash monkey.
@selene
ReplyDeletedo you posess those traits selene??
good sex, nice boobs and a warm firm ass)
Detective Ukan is on his way to make a manual insertion of his nightstick up your coloured ringpiece Mr trash monkey.
ReplyDeleteAint nuthin get licked, like a nigger on a stick.
ReplyDeleteGet yours TODAY!.
Buy a family pack so EVERYONE can enjoy one!
check your local 711 for the new "Nigger on a stick" !
Lycan is being trolled.
ReplyDeleteWaves of enlightenment wash over the mind like a sudden intuitive perception of being alive and then all he saw was bananas.
Oh dear.
ReplyDeleteI used the "N" word.
How prejudiced of me!.
I meant to say 'Coon'.
sorry about that.
@anon
ReplyDeleteyeah..lmao..I know...but its fun coming up with new and improved ways to insult people :-)
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ReplyDeleteLycan needs a good trolling.
ReplyDeleteProblem of the day; what to wear in court tomorrow, ha :-)
ReplyDeleteAny suggestions? :-)
@selene
ReplyDeleteTroll me baby
lol
Little black dress with stiletto heels.
ReplyDelete@david
ReplyDeleteI suggest a black tshirt with a mickey mouse picture on it, accompanied by black cargo pants and bright red braces.
For the feet..black miami loafers without socks.
Topped off with a black fedora and a cuban cigar.
The judge will think your libyan and feel sorry for you .
i like to find something they are uncomfortable with and shove it on their faces thats fun then depending on the reaction i will insult them some more or not usually more
ReplyDelete@selene
ReplyDeleteThat imagery is too easy...add something of substance to the ensemble selene, something that gets the imagination juices flowing.
@anon
ReplyDeleteyep...that can work quite well at times
Go all dressed in white to show how pure you are
ReplyDeleteyeah...the miami vice look.
ReplyDeleteNothing like a flashed up poofter to get a judge all riled up!
I have a feeling david will be conservative though and head for a suit.
lol Lycan,just lol.
ReplyDeleteJust lol is better than "what a stupid thing to say Lycan"....
ReplyDeleteMind you selene, a little black dress is much easier to split down the back with my stiletto than an ordinary run-of-the-mill evening dress. Do continue :-)
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ReplyDeleteThis is Detective Ukanezlezian
ReplyDeleteYou can call me Ukan.
Yes, I have an Armenian name. Want to make something of it?
I am doing this part time gig to but water skis.I get so bored that I need to fuck people up and then I get in trouble.
I am hoping that water skiing will do the trick.
I will file police reports for the citizens of SW on a periodic basis.
Back to my donuts and coffee.
This is Det Ukan; over and out.
*buy water skis*
ReplyDeleteyou said you never swear, erin.
ReplyDelete@erin
ReplyDeletedo you like to do things for others, excessively? that is a trait of a beeper.
>The president of the Association of Black Psychologists at the time declared that such research was in itself “a blatant form of stereotyping and racism.”
ReplyDeleteMore science is racist bullshit.
Here's another article based around one study:
http://www.autismwebsite.com/crimetimes/98b/w98bp8.htm
It asserts that high testosterone (which is partly genetic) and low serotonin (also partly genetic) are causal factors in crime.
Racist fact of the day: African genetics cause them to have higher average testosterone levels. High testosterone levels are theorized to play a causal factor in crime. One possible reason for the high proportion of African criminals.
Science which offends people is not bad science. Science != racism
usually codependents have npd or socio parents that never gave a shit about them. for socios it's the opposite, the socios have codependent parents or maybe one...
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ReplyDeleteNo, provide evidence.
it's my own experience.
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ReplyDeletethe sociopath is completely self centered and never does a good thing for another.. the bpd is the opposite
ReplyDeletego to havens bpd blog, erin. this is a sociopath forum.
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ReplyDeleteGenetics are powerful, and should be given more credit than people are willing.
ReplyDeleteI think it scares the average control freak to count genetics, because... well isn't that obvious? It is easier for someone to fool themselves into believing they have full control over their environment.
The role genetics play, sets a thing in motion before we even have a mind to understand control.
@Erin
I didn't show anyone my picture. And yes, I own a salon.
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ReplyDeleteIt's a full service salon. Nails included.
ReplyDeleteErin, why are you so interested in me now?
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ReplyDeleteHumans are quite delusional. Example, we don't attribute 'negative' qualities to animals that we so readily attribute to people. An animal that kills its prey and hoards its food is not considered evil or selfish. But with humans, we place nothing but blame and judgement upon them. When another animal behaves like an animal, we say, that's just natural. When we behave like ourselves, we are told we are unnatural and all wrong. When will we grow out of this self-delusional, self-aggrandising, incorporeal perception of ourselves as something beyond animal, as something beyond the entirely physical composition and drive that is our existence.
ReplyDeleteI am not reducing our humanity. But it's only when we see things from their source that we can better appreciate and understand the beauty of being human that is what people get so hooked on like a drug.
In summary. People need a lesson in humility, and I believe that. The sociopath perhaps, decides to bring us down to our knees to see that. However, there's never just one perspective to be counted.
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ReplyDeleteI've been on a crime spree since I was fourteen. Back then I did anything. After a while I was with a militant group with a political angle. That got me nothing but prison bars. When I came out of prison I decided I didn't want a political angle anymore, I wanted to use my skills to get power and influence for myself. I learned a lot from that group that I am applying now.
ReplyDeleteWhen I got married I didn't stop doing crime, I just normalised it. Now it's just like I'm leaving for work. I go to sleep in the morning and wake up in the afternoon. My wife cooks me up dinner, and I race off in to the night to make some money.
I've recently cut a lot of violence out of my life. I've gone from dealing with hundreds of people to just dealing with four very close associates. I've never been caught doing crime in a career sense. When I go outside the day to day operation and use violence that's when things start going haywire. I used to take things way to far. Sometimes I would use coercion so much that I would enjoy the power I got from it more than just simple manipulation. I love to intimidate people. After so many times of going outside the box people would not associate with me or I would get caught.
I've learned it is better to build a wall around yourself and insulate you from the day to day. There are too many hyenas trying to take down a young lion before he can establish his kingdom. I have to be at such a length where I can make decisions outside of the battlefield instead of making snap decisions in the trenches.
DON'T EVER REMIND A NARC OR SOCIO ABOUT GENETICS IF THEIR FAMILY ARE LOSERS, I MADE THAT MISTAKE... "I'M A SEPARATE PERSON TO THOSE LOSERS", I HEARD IT OVER AND OVER... but i admit, he is nothing like his family..
ReplyDeleteUKan, you use lots of pronoun density, "I, me and myself" Vaknin says that this is a key indicator of a person with pathological narcissism.
ReplyDelete"Obama's pronoun density has doubled between January 20, 2009 and October 2009. It then subsided, though it is still about 50% over the level exhibited during his election campaign. This would seem to indicate that his pathological narcissism has been exacerbated in office as he was probably basking in media attention and the trappings of power. The backlash, such as it was, against several of his more egregious behaviours and faux-pas led him to modify his conduct and pay closer attention to his syntax and grammar: Obama is now acting modest. False modesty is another hallmark of raging, malign"
ReplyDeleteUKan, you use lots of pronoun density, "I, me and myself" Vaknin says that this is a key indicator of a person with pathological narcissism.
Considering I'm talking about myself I think you are looking a little too far into it.
How funny. I've never seen americans so divided on a president. I'm pretty sure it's because they elected a black president for the first time. Just for kicks I looked up obama narcissist and it came up with all these bloggers with a conservitive spin. It looks like they will come up with anything to discredit this black president. It's funny because your current president looks a lot better than your last one. Bush was closer to narcissist than Obama could ever dream to be. You are talking about delsuions of having god ordain him for power and a man who started two wars and turned every country against you. This goes with my theory that a lot of white americans have a deep seeded hatred for black americans.
ReplyDeleteHe does seem to fit the npd diagnoses, though. Bush was more of a sociopath, if you ask me.
ReplyDeleteHow can you differentiate between Obama spending a lot of time trying to keep good public relations through media appearances and Obama trying to feed a desire for attention? I doubt someone who 'Feels superior, omnipotent, omniscient, invincible, immune, "above the law", and omnipresent (magical thinking).' would succeed so much.
ReplyDeleteBush was nowhere near being sociopathic it's only people who dislike his version of morality that would think that. Bush was a typical bible basher who follows american christian ethics, from the point of view of people with similar ethics he was a saint.
Every single president, prime minister, or dictator fits a npd diagnoses if you want them to fit the bill. What is funny about your country is that a segment of your white population has gone bannannas trying to find anything negative about this paticular president including saying he has a personality disorder. So far what has he done over there that's negative? He tried to pass a health care bill, tried to pull you out of two wars, and extended unemployment. Doesn't really sound like a narcissist to me.
ReplyDelete>I doubt someone who 'Feels superior, omnipotent, omniscient, invincible, immune, "above the law", and omnipresent (magical thinking).' would succeed so much.
ReplyDeleteScrap this, there are plenty of examples of people like that doing well. I doubt he has NPD though.
@nero
ReplyDeletewhat political leader, if any, would you consider a sociopath?
Antisocial personality disorder? None
ReplyDeleteA lot of political leaders seem to be immoral though e.g. arnold schwarzenegger
"Antisocial personality disorder? None"
ReplyDeleteif you fail to see that muammar gaddafi and various other leaders, aren't psychopaths, then you are deluded. if gaddafi was clinically assessed, he would score 40 on the pcl-r, without a doubt.
Ok, anonymous let's go through the diagnostic criteria and see how deluded I am.
ReplyDeletehttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antisocial_personality_disorder
DSM
1.sure
2.to some extent
3.definite no
4.no
5.no, disregard for safety of others when they oppose his laws
6.No
7.yes
>he would score 40 on the pcl-r, without a doubt.
No, he wouldn't even score 20, he doesn't meet the factor 2 criteria.
FUN FACT: Gaddafi was opposed to the south-african apartheid while the USA still supported it.
What the hell does that prove, Nero?
ReplyDeleteAll you know how to do is link to random sites in an attempt to prove your point.
Why can't ever you think for yourself and construct a decent argument?
FUN FACT: Ted Bundy once saved a little boy from drowning.
It proves that they don't have antisocial personality disorder which you critiqued me for saying. It also proves that gaddafi wouldn't score 40 on the pcl-r like you said.
ReplyDelete>All you know how to do is link to random sites in an attempt to prove your point.
The site I linked to is the definition of antisocial personality disorder which is needed when deciding whether someone fits the criteria.
>Why can't ever you think for yourself and construct a decent argument?
I just did think for myself and it was more effective than your attempt to do so.
Get back primary school you still don't understand the basics of constructing arguments which don't contradict observable reality.
you provided absolutely no evidence to back up your claims.
ReplyDelete1 - obviously. (2/2)
2 - he is a serial liar, i could give you multiple accounts of his lies and propaganda. (2/2)
3 - there is much more evidence to back up the fact that he is impulsive, rather than he isn't. (2/2)
4 - when have you ever seen someone disagreeing with gaddafi? whilst in his territory, this is a clear indicator that he is quick to become hostile. (2/2)
5 - gaddafi has never shown to care about libyan citizens, be it children or elders. he has even had made his mercenaries execute children. (2/2)
6 - he paid the families of suicide bombers, lol? (2/2)
7 - yes. (2/2)
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i am certain he would score 40.
“People in front of tanks were crushed. The unity of China was more important than those people in Tiananmen Square. … When Tiananmen Square happened, tanks were sent in to deal with them. It’s not a joke. I will do whatever it takes to make sure part of the country isn’t taken away.” -- Gaddafi
ReplyDeleteGaddafi gave viagra like drugs to his soldiers so that they could continuously rape civilian women.
He hired mercenaries to murder civilians, because he knew his police wouldn't kill their own country me.
“I was the one who created Libya, and I will be the one to destroy it.” -- Gaddafi
I'm with anon. If this guy is not a psychopath, then psychopathy does not exist.
I don't care for arguing semantics. Also the I quote
ReplyDelete>'he would score 40 on the pcl-r, without a doubt.'
Your post is your own assessment of the DSM which is completely different from the pcl-r
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3 - there is much more evidence to back up the fact that he is impulsive, rather than he isn't. (2/2)
LOL
His massive political and monetary success imply someone who is very future oriented.
>4 - when have you ever seen someone disagreeing with gaddafi? whilst in his territory, this is a clear indicator that he is quick to become hostile. (2/2)
It shows that his political strategy is to minimise opposition media.
>5 - gaddafi has never shown to care about libyan citizens, be it children or elders. he has even had made his mercenaries execute children. (2/2)
Look here:
http://hdrstats.undp.org/en/countries/profiles/LBY.html
Libya has improved under gaddafi^^
>6 - he paid the families of suicide bombers, lol? (2/2)
that's not even relevant to the criteria, You didn't even provide a source.
>I'm with anon. If this guy is not a psychopath, then psychopathy does not exist.
ReplyDeleteAssuming those quotations are accurate, I agree he is very immoral.
you are either a troll or your trying to create a new version of the pcl-r. you are the only person who would argue that gadaffi isn't a psychopath.
ReplyDeleteNo anonymous you are using a strawman argument. I said that he would not score 40 on the pcl-r. Anon said that he would score 40.
ReplyDeleteHere's one criteria which he doesn't fit.
5.Lack of realistic, long-term goals
So no, he wouldn't score 40 on the pcl-r
5. Lack of realistic long-term goals
ReplyDeleteHe would not of succeeded as much as he has if he fit this criteria.
he was a dictator, if he had have said he was going to become dictator of libya, when he was a boy, his friends and family would have called that unrealistic. this is where the notion comes from you fool, because psychopaths set their goals extremely high. most don't make it so they are termed "unrealistic".
ReplyDeleteYou've picked out one imaginary example to claim that he had no realistic long-term goals. You're nothing more than a sophist.
ReplyDeleteif that didn't make sense to you, nero, nothing will. it was one of the best examples of the "5. Lack of realistic long-term goals" i have seen.
ReplyDeleteif you ask ukan where he wants to be in 10 years, he will tell you about him being in a position of immense power. is it unrealistic? probably not.
ReplyDelete'if you ask ukan where he wants to be in 10 years, he will tell you about him being in a position of immense power. is it unrealistic? probably not.'
ReplyDeleteshut up you kiss ass faggot. ukan isn't anywhere near a position of immense power, and 99% of these career criminals go down or get killed in the end.
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ReplyDeleteBTW ASPD is a cultural dependent diagnoses
ReplyDeleteSo the leader of saudi arabia 'rationalizing having hurt, mistreated, or stolen from another;' under the quran is not ASPD.
Also:
'C) There is evidence of conduct disorder with onset before age 15 years'
i'm sure even ukan would agree with me that his story probably won't ha a happy ending.
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ReplyDeleteI thought my end would already have come. Now that I hit 30 I think I just might make it. Especially since I'm making steps to buy legitimate businesses.
ReplyDeleteGaddafi is a psychopath without a doubt. Naming one trait of the pclr that he doesnt fit doesnt rule him out at all. In fact it's quite the opposite. If he is only one trait down on the scale he is scoring pretty high.
Gadddafi attempted to unify africa under a pan-african federation. His real intention was to make himself a king over all of Africa. The african nations eventually saw through him and decided against the unification. I can remember one leaders quote for his reason why he backed out off the top of my head:
"Gaddafi has two faces. Evil and evil."
It is true that he gave his mercenaries aphrodisiacs to rape more women in order to make the population more docile. He also backed several insurgencies against his enemies, including the Provisional Irish Republican Army, the Popular Front for the Liberation of Palestine, and the Red Army Faction in his early years in order to fight imperialism. However once secure against the threat of Europe, Isreal, and United States he started making strange alliances. Like backing the genocide in Dafur in the name of Islam, but backing Milosevic in Bosnia who was Eastern Orthodox.
Gaddafi is one of the longest rulers in history. He's stayed in power through cunning. We are talking about a guy who ran training camps for left wing insurgent groups that were destabilizing several first world nation during the cold war. His main weapon has been causing disorder in his enemies countries. The fact that he was able to survive and stay in power through the collapse of the soviet union and the rise of global capitalism is impressive. The age of information however is going to spell the end to a lot of despots.
Keeping success is the challenge. No one wants to see someone they hate obtain success, so of course they don't want them keeping it.
ReplyDeleteIf anything, when Obama was elected, racists may have been angry that he would have a moment of victory, but were at the very least; happy to open that window of opportunity, to slander him into failure as far as in the public eye.
He was doomed from the beginning. No matter what he does for this country, he will not receive credit for successes.
Same goes for this forum. If you are a known sociopath, you will not get credit here for your success. The majority will find some way to slander you, or attribute your success to some kind of fluke, and go on believing you couldn't possibly keep it.
Face it. You're just a _______, and therefor by nature, doomed to failure.
Keep lying to yourselves :)
Crime and violence are prevalent in places that are impoverished, Nero. Your arguement that blacks are predispositioned to crime based on being african is ignorant. Wikipedia notes are not sufficient to reading the entire account of world history rather than small selection to try to prove your point.
ReplyDeleteThroughout history many people have been conquered and enslaved. When a civilization is conquered and enslaved they will not progress. How long it takes for their culture or civilization to recover culturally, socially, and economically is dependant upon several enviromental factors.
In your country, Nero, blacks have made it out of being second class citizens for how long? Sixty years. In a historical perspective that is barely a breath. It is no coincidence that your prison system is the largest in the world, and it's filled with people who were just barely free from discriminatory practices. Your country still has a very large part of the population that is still against blacks like you and your parents. They are further enraged by having a black president.
I lived in a poor neighborhood and it made me lean towards a life of crime. That's usually the way it goes.
ReplyDeleteIf you are a known sociopath, you will not get credit here for your success. The majority will find some way to slander you, or attribute your success to some kind of fluke, and go on believing you couldn't possibly keep it.
Yes indeed. There are many on here that kept saying that I wouldn't make it, that my girlfriend would leave me, that my dog would bite me, that I would be dead or in prison. Yet here I am married, with my dog sleeping on my feet, free as a bird, in a house I could only dream of and hardly doing any work at all. I don't listen to the negative nay sayers. People like that always lose in life.
Credit, where credit is due UKan.
ReplyDeletewhat a boring... load... of crap.
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ReplyDeleteFlash your tits, Erin. It might just warm things up a bit.
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ReplyDelete@Erin
ReplyDeletelol
I said yesterday... if you wanted to see my picture, it would be all to easy to find me.
Where do you think that might be Erin?
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ReplyDeleteWhat do you mean you e-mailed me?
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ReplyDeleteJESUS WHEATLEY!!!! why couldn't you let her figure it out on her own?!
ReplyDeleteSorry?
ReplyDeleteyou're pretty hot, eden.
ReplyDelete>Naming one trait of the pclr that he doesnt fit doesnt rule him out at all
ReplyDeleteSlightly disguised straw-man argument. We were disputing whether he would score 40.
anything you don't like is a strawman argument... shut your fucking trap, nero.
ReplyDeleteyou claimed that gaddafi wasn't a psychopath at all, now you've altered you argument so that you don't have to answer ukan's and everyone else's points.
you. are. weak. minded.
I have one very compelling argument in favor of the 'genetic disposition does not a criminal make' theory. Ready?
ReplyDeleteThe Commonwealth of Australia (or just Australia)
Unrelated: I just heard I've failed my first year in college, yay!
"It proves that they don't have antisocial personality disorder"
ReplyDelete"No, he wouldn't even score 20, he doesn't meet the factor 2 criteria."
that was your point, idiot.
"Unrelated: I just heard I've failed my first year in college, yay!"
ReplyDeleteguess you should have worked harder, it shouldn't be hard for a guy as smart as you.
@UKan 11:27
ReplyDelete>When a civilization is conquered and enslaved they will not progress. How long it takes for their culture or civilization to recover culturally, socially, and economically is dependant upon several enviromental factors.
African Americans are actually better off now than if their ancestors had not been captured. They've progressed due to being enslaved. The lifestyle of African Americans is far superior to the lifestyles they would be living had they stayed in Africa.
>Your country still has a very large part of the population that is still against blacks like you and your parents.
I live in England and socialize with black people, neither of my parents are racist. My position is that Africans make lower quality immigrants than Asians.
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ReplyDelete>that was your point, idiot.
That wasn't the point he was referring to idiot
>you claimed that gaddafi wasn't a psychopath at all
I claimed that he wouldn't fit the factor 2 criteria of the pcl-r not that he wouldn't fit any of the criteria.
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ReplyDeleteIronically, that's exactly the reason I didn't work as hard as I should have.
ReplyDeleteI did this very superficial communications-class, which touched lightly on a multitude of subjects (web design, marketing, event management), and it was just extremely boring. I only chose it because it was so varied, and I had zero idea what else to do. Also at fault is that I had no idea what college actually 'meant'.
@Erin
ReplyDeleteI have never talked to you outside of this blog... not ever! Why would you think I have?
@Nero
ReplyDeleteYou can't use terms such as 'advanced', 'complex', 'better off' and superior interchangeably. Being 'better of' just because you can look at a lot of Europium changing colour (TV) is completely subjective.
Arguably, in the long run, complexity is not a merit. See for example ants, which haven't changed these past 150.000.000 years and are doing pretty well; and humans, who've been around for only two of those 150 million years and, frankly, aren't doing so well as they like to tell themselves.
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ReplyDelete@Erin
ReplyDeleteI don't email people I don't know, for idle chat. Has someone emailed you under my name?
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ReplyDelete@wheatley
ReplyDelete>Being 'better of' just because you can look at a lot of Europium changing colour (TV) is completely subjective.
Their lifestyle is superior from a utilitarian perspective, less malnutrition, disease and a higher standard of living.
>See for example ants, which haven't changed these past 150.000.000 years and are doing pretty well.
In terms of surviving.
>humans, who've been around for only two of those 150 million years and, frankly, aren't doing so well as they like to tell themselves.
The population of humans has increased by more than two thousand percent in 2000 years, they are doing great by the same criteria you set out for ants. Although advances in technology may cause an early extinction.
I understand that malnutrition, disease and a higher standard of living are all subjective preferences but it is irrelevant the point is they are a majority preference.
ReplyDeleteNo.
ReplyDeleteErin, I'm too lazy, and disinterested to go hunting for people.
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ReplyDeleteLOL I'm looking for an argument with wheatley, this is almost as pathetic as the anon from earlier.
ReplyDeletePeople propose marriage for either the financial gain(lower rent, I agree Medusa) or in order to take the other off the market. If ur a breeder, I reckon that'd be another kettle o fish.
ReplyDelete@Erin
ReplyDeleteYou really do have the mind of a child in some ways. Don't lose your fucking head when I say this but... you're kind of growing on me.
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ReplyDelete@Eden Ralene
ReplyDeleteyou're kind of growing on me.
Like a carbuncle that hurts when you rub it on a shoe, and when you bash it against a low sofa?
@erin
ReplyDeleteHave you passed on your details to ME?
@erin
ReplyDeleteI see you are still alive.
that kinda disappoints me ...
I guess you checked the meter board.
pity, the precognitive death of a self professed psychic would have really given the SW some great publicity.
Can I induce you to insert a knife into your toaster then perhaps?.
@Nero
ReplyDeleteMaybe so, but they did get a lot of new problems as well, including but not limited to: obesity (and I'm purposefully ignoring the 'They can just choose not to eat' argument), all kinds of new dangers (car accidents, firearms, terrorism and nuclear holocaust, to name a few), materialism and all the worrying that comes with it, racism and living in what can be considered to be a police-state, not to mention that the ones that hit rock-bottom, really hit rock-bottom.
And I said "as they like to tell themselves" to avoid you saying something like that. But honestly? Do you think that having the option to thermonuclearly vapourize every human accomplishment within hours, is better than not having said option at all?
It's really an interesting argument (complexity versus simplicity), because at its core lies 'ignorance is bliss'. I'm not advocating all of humanity going back to houses made of literal and figurative shit, I'm just saying that you can't objectively say one is better than the other.
Goddammit this is going to be a long day.
ReplyDeletethanks to an anon I now have a preoccupation with killing trash monkeys.
Davids off somewhere trying on fairy suits for his court appearance, medusas hiding, and Ukans off somewhere doing ukan things.
I hate slow days sometimes.
@wheatley
ReplyDeleteI'm not advocating all of humanity going back to houses made of literal and figurative shit,
why not?
If they could find a decent polymer that makes shit durable then the worlds housing problems would cease and fat people would make a mint from faeces.
@Nero
ReplyDeleteAd hominem? You really are the worst (HA! SELF-PARODYING. HOW META!)
@Lycan
You and I both know what I meant. :)
I haven't met a single adult who hasn't committed a crime. If you want to argue recidivism, sure, sociopaths and psychopaths take the cake. In a world where so much is illegal, crime is inevitable. Sociopaths and psychopaths have no regard for the pseudo-sanctity imbued upon the machinations of population control.
ReplyDeleteLaw, religion, social norms, common courtesy, these things mean nothing to me. They never have, and after several decades, I think I can honestly say they never will.
You can either work for the system, or make the system work for you. That's what we do, and why the 50%+ of us that never grace a prison cell do so well.
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ReplyDelete@erin
ReplyDeleteperhaps
@TNP
ReplyDeleteHave you ever had a long term relationship with a woman whom you really loved?
@Lycan
ReplyDeleteThat would be fun :)
No more death by electrocution in bathtub, or death by electrocution in toaster jokes?
Erin, to answer that I'd need to know how you define love.
ReplyDeleteSecond of all, you don't have BPD. There is another PD out there similar to it that you might have, though. I was in a long-term relationship with a gal who had it, and you are nothing like one. At all. You've got problems, but you don't have BPD.
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ReplyDeleteBoo.
ReplyDeletevw: probe
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ReplyDelete@Erin Hi
ReplyDelete@Eden, you are correct, empathy is not pity. In the heat of the moment, I equated the two because empathy usually leads to pity. I work at a University, so my mind is usually mollified by all the idiots I am surrounded by. Please excuse me. So Eden, what's you PD, or are you just a tourist? Please don't take that as an insult.
I'm not going to tell you what you have. I might be wrong, after all. I'm not a clinical psychologist, and you're not my patient.
ReplyDeleteBut you don't have BPD. That much is certain.
Theres BPD and NPD Borderline & Narcissist both are similar but Erin is no narcissist
ReplyDeleteThere's also over sensitive pretentious teenager who can't even use the manual properly
ReplyDeleteDon't forget trigger-happy psychiatrist diagnosing people with disorders they barely fit in order to minimize the risk that they get blamed for not predicting a patients suicide.
ReplyDeleteI'm fucking dissapointed SW you didn't call me out on so many of my errors today. shame on you.
ReplyDelete'ignorance is bliss'
ReplyDeleteIndeed
"'ignorance is bliss'
ReplyDeleteIndeed"
Yup, you have no idea how stupid you look to everyone else, it's sad really.
Was that an Ad Populum?
ReplyDeleteLOL and you are the same anonymous that scored the DSMs criteria out of 40 because you thought it was the pcl-r. Strawman- argument in every post.
Nope, different anon, carry on making a fool of yourself...
ReplyDelete@TNP
ReplyDeleteGive me a hint. What letter does it begin with?
>Nope, different anon, carry on making a fool of yourself...
ReplyDeleteCarry on making a fool of yourself by expecting people to think you are telling the truth over the internet. You have the same literary style and are the only person here motivated to try and argue with me. Fail
By Daniel Birdick
>You are probably right about the Wikipedia thing, by the way. I will go back and take a look at those links you mentioned in a bit.
>Wow! Thinking of your future by trying to get your dad to change his will! That is most impressive Nero.
>. I love how you play your mom too. Do she see how smart you are?
YOU
Yup, you have no idea how stupid you look to everyone else, it's sad really.
The most credible poster here doesn't think I look stupid, not that I care for your childish approval seeking.
@Pregnant Question for Medusa
ReplyDeleteOK, first of all, I am not trying to be a jerk.
We,all, have something wrong with us, some PD or prolly a few in a PD soup.
So, having said that, I want to ask you something.
I think you have classic Narcissism.I have noticed a peculiar trait in N's.
They will Gaslight someone out the whazoo. They will twist the person until the person does know which way is up.
Then, they will be nice and helpful at times and be surprised that the person harbors ill will toward them.
I have seen this time and time, again in N's.
What is the deal with this, do you think?
I won't be replying to trolls anymore. For arguments which are obviously fallacious I will just name the fallacy they are using.
ReplyDeleteNero i dont think anybody gives a shit LOL
ReplyDeleteBTW the people being hailed as freedom fighters in libya are racist and worse than gaddafi, they are exterminating Africans. LOL mainstream media fail as usual and none of their viewers care.
ReplyDeletehttp://www.thezimbabwemail.com/zimbabwe/8890-libyan-rebel-ethnic-cleansing-and-lynching-of-black-people.html
Reading erins texts its liek reading a poem you interpret it in whatever way you want its aawesome
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ReplyDeleteI just play one on TV.
ReplyDeleteHeh. Nero still hasn't realised that Daniel was stringing him along. And the best you can do is name drop people who despise you? You remind me so much of Adam.
ReplyDeleteI noticed that, too, Misanthrope. Daniel played him without really even having to do anything.
ReplyDeleteAh Nero, I think you should just sit back for a while. No one can be bothered to argue with your idiocy anymore.
Yeah. And Nero forgot to mention what Daniel said next:
ReplyDelete"Ok, thank you for playing little nero. You have basically confirmed what I thought of you. And then some."
I find it even funnier that he went through the trouble of sorting through old and very long posts just to find that stuff.
ReplyDeleteDesperation.
trolls everywhere
ReplyDelete>Daniel played him
Except he didn't profit anything
@ misanthrope
taken out of context
poor quality trolling
It would motivate me to utilize introspection, self-analysis, and find out myself instead of being a lazy, and at the core, apathetic piece of shit.
ReplyDeleteYou aren't BPD. Figure it out. That's my only hint.
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ReplyDeleteThe only profit to be hoped for here is amusement. And sometimes that's just enough.
ReplyDeleteErin
ReplyDeleteFuck off and die
signed Nero
Medusa why would I don't think speaking to you is worth my time untill you admit hitler dislike jews. Do not try and act like you didn't say that he didn't.
ReplyDeleteSo you admit that those nice little remarks he made about you weren't genuine? Daniel did profit from fooling you, as you can see it's still paying off today.
ReplyDelete^yeh, it's a typo, don't get too excited.
ReplyDelete@Nero
ReplyDeleteWhat in Heavens name did I ever do to you?
I don't get why people expect to bond with other people that you only know over the internet.
ReplyDeleteIt's just weird to me.
Some people have years-long romantic relationships this way. I do not understand.
Heh. Your PD is showing, has been the last few comments, and you don't even realize it. Fucking hilarious.
ReplyDeleteFact is, Erin, we've known what you are since you arrived. But the fact that you're oblivious to it is morbidly amusing. Maybe someday someone will tell you. But it won't be me.
Nero, since you are so fond of digging through old posts, I invite you to go back and find exactly where I said that.
ReplyDeleteUntil then, just shut the fuck up.
Even if you do bring up the topic again, I will likely ignore you.
Medusa why would I don't think speaking to you is worth my time
ReplyDeleteLOL FAILZ
@TNP
ReplyDeleteOk I will ask the Divine Miss M who will give me the good news with relish.
Miss M, pwease, what am I ?
'@Nero
ReplyDeleteWhat in Heavens name did I ever do to you?'
sometimes erin is just funny, that's why i don't mind her (:
@mensch
ReplyDeleteI don't stake any claims to having a PD. I know what I am without a diagnosis, yet unlike so many here, I Was diagnosed with the same PD twice within a decade. The first time can't be counted.
That being said, and without any delusions or denial, I know I fit the criteria, and still believe it may just be that I come from such a violent background. Every one of my siblings has been diagnosed with some kind of PD.
"Bush was closer to narcissist than Obama could ever dream to be. You are talking about delsuions of having god ordain him for power and a man who started two wars and turned every country against you. This goes with my theory that a lot of white americans have a deep seeded hatred for black americans."
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ReplyDeleteForget it, Guys
ReplyDeleteI will ask someone in private, if I ever talk to him.
"if gaddafi was clinically assessed, he would score 40 on the pcl-r, without a doubt."
ReplyDeleteHe would score, like, 41. Stalin would be 42 because, you know, no one beats Stalin.
Except for Gengis Kahn. Or maybe Attila.
Hitler's just a big Narc. He's whiny to no end.
I read your comment, Erin. My stance does not change. I will never tell you. Figure it out on your own, don't come asking us for approval when you finally find your shiny new label.
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ReplyDelete@Erin
ReplyDeleteHISTRIONIC PD
@Erin
ReplyDeleteWhat kind of PD do the stars say you have? ;p
The child-turned-adult keeps looking for narcissists in order to feel whole, alive and wanted. He craves to be treated by a narcissist narcissistically. What others call abuse is, to him or her, familiar territory and constitutes Narcissistic Supply. To the Inverted Narcissist, the classic narcissist is a Source of Supply (primary or secondary) and his narcissistic behaviours constitute Narcissistic Supply. The IN feels dissatisfied, empty and unwanted when not "loved" by a narcissist.
ReplyDeleteNo one wants to see a tacky shirt gracing your malnourished, shriveled and underdeveloped childlike body.
ReplyDeleteNow go figure it out and stop talking about it. Chop chop.
P - provocative (or seductive) behavior
ReplyDeleteR - relationships, considered more intimate than they are
A - attention, must be at center of
I - influenced easily
S - speech (style) - wants to impress, lacks detail
E - emotional lability, shallowness
M - make-up - physical appearance used to draw attention to self
E - exaggerated emotions - theatrical