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Wednesday, October 26, 2011

Anarchy

This is a hilarious description from Slate of how a drum circle threatens to derail the whole Occupy Wall Street movement, specifically one or two crazy people that I would like to think are sociopaths messing with the hippies. Apparently no one can stand the constant noise of the drum circle and so leaders of the movement have been trying to consult with "leaders" of the drum circle to get them to limit the amount of time that they play:
Unfortunately there is one individual who is NOT a drummer but who claims to speak for the drummers who has been a deeply disruptive force, attacking the drumming rep during the GA and derailing his proposal, and disrupting the community board meeting, as well as the OWS community relations meeting. She has also created strife and divisions within the POC caucus, calling many members who are not 'on her side' "Uncle Tom", "the 1%", "Barbie" "not Palestinian enough" "Wall Street politicians" "not black enough" "sell-outs", etc. People have been documenting her disruptions, and her campaign of misinformation, and instigations. She also has a documented history online of defamatory, divisive and disruptive behavior within the LGBT (esp. transgender) communities. Her disruptions have made it hard to have constructive conversations and productive resolutions to conflicts in a variety of forums in the past several days.
Sound like anyone we know? But it does warn of what happens with a group of leaderless protester/followers with any defined concrete commonality:
Friends, mediation with the drummers has been called off. It has gone on for more than 2 weeks and it has reached a dead end. … We need to take this seriously, and be clear that if we can’t deal with conflict and self-organizing then we are facing eviction very soon (this week), and the allies that helped turn out mass numbers at the last one will not be around this time, nor will the press be supportive.
Is it true that sociopathy thrives in anarchy?

394 comments:

  1. Occupy SociopathWorldOctober 26, 2011 at 12:33 AM

    I say we round up some of those shaman drummer types for the women folk here, hog tie them and let those fellers get a taste of some real anarchy!

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  2. Post question: does sociopathy thrive in anarchy?

    I'd say absolutely. When there are no rules to constrain the imagination a sociopath could do wonders. I'd think every PD on earth would love the state of disorder we call anarchy. A high-functioning sociopath who counts on the system he has created would hate when some new anarchy destroys it all, I suppose. Hmmm, now the answer boils back down to it depends.

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  3. Manipulating the consensus process probably easier than any decision making process ever created. Everyday is a power vacuum.

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  4. Fuck yeah round up all the drum circle dildos and get me a strap on.

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  5. It sounds like a fun playground, but I'm sure I'd get the most benefit out of an authoritarian society like the Roman Empire or Nazi Germany. Can you guess why?

    Of course it would be better still to enact order from chaos. What this disruptive female is doing, though, is fine for shits and giggles that will keep her happy for like five minutes, then its back to the boredom again.

    Unless chaos gives you a chance of becoming some kind of dictator, then order trumps chaos. Strangely though, both anarchy and fascism, though they are widely viewed as polar opposites, are both preferable from my own perspective than our political system that has the worst traits of both yet the benefits of neither.

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  6. It's harder to obtain power in a entrenched power structure like the roman empire. You have better chances of winning the lottery than to be born into nobility. Outside of that great leaders were thrust into power by riding the winds of disorder and chaos in history.

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  7. Drummer girl won't be leading shit. She's marching to the beat of her own drum.

    As far as chaos goes, it is a matter of carpe diem, but frankly I doubt it's always a deliberate power play. More like just a natural ability to both survive, thrive, and overcome chaos for your own means. When the cards and down and everyone is going wild, the most outspoken, brash, and capable people will come out on top. That's just how the natural order works. When the alphas are dead, new ones fill the old shoes and life slips back into order.

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  8. No it's not elaborate schemes generally. It's preparation meeting opportunity.

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  9. There's no higher authority to stop us from doing whatever we like. We're still killing eachother and destroying the world every day. Our rules are whatever we say they are and can be changed in a heart beat. Laws are only as good as the strangle hold kept around the people they're forced upon. Rewards aren't handed out for doing the right thing, they're taken by people who lie and cheat their way to the top while those who try to do good are left broken and nowhere. As always the strong survive and the weak perish. Civilization is a mask. I think the world is anarchy disguised as civilization. Just like me.

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  10. Why this obsession with shamans in this place? They're idiots.

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  11. Hi Notme, 3 of the girls dated a shaman.

    Do you know any, I've nerver met any.

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  12. Psychopathy thrives in capitalism. It's basically a more sneaky, covert form of dictatorship.

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  13. "Why this obsession with shamans in this place? They're idiots."

    No idea.

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  14. "I'd think every PD on earth would love the state of disorder we call anarchy."

    I'm going to have to disagree with this statement. S/P and narc PDs maybe, but of the other dozen or so anarchy would only make things worse.

    The upheaval of anarchy, the uncertainty drives paranoia and doubt. It makes reality harder to hold onto. It makes it impossible to depend on anything. Structure is something that a lot of PDs need in order to function. Without a stable structure that's when things go from bad to hell in a hand basket.

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  15. Every shaman type I met had a whole lot of verbiage, but very little true wisdom.

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  16. You all better read up then, the top hens won't be pleased with your lack of understanding.

    If you want to be acknowledged.

    Or you could just try to ask a question or give a tid-bit about yourself, throw a little meat into the water for them.

    Just remember membership is full in the Hen club.

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  17. I give what I want to give. I have never needed to be in a group.

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  18. my mother fits the criteria for a borderline, my father is a narcissist. i'm not over exaggerating. he really does display all the behaviors of a narcissist.

    it's a very bad situation for a child to be raised in.

    she wouldn't let me be myself when i was a child. she was dead set on keeping me in a bubble, in which i could do no wrong. i told her that she abused me, but this woman will never accept blame for her actions, she has too much shame inside. i am doing everything in my power to destroy this woman.

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  19. This is part of why I never want to have kids. I'm afraid I'd screw them up so badly that instead of seeking therapy they need to whine about it on a sociopath blog.

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  20. Capitalism is tailored for sociopaths and narcissists, it's covert control. I see anarchy as more beeperish, as it's chaotic.

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  21. Alright, that was rude. Cheers to no impulse control.

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  22. BPD seems chaotic in its expression but more often it's a desperate attempt to gain control and structure. It's not a willful determination to throw everyone else off balance (though that's what tends to happen).

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  23. i'm not screwed up at all, but i have npd.

    i don't drink or smoke, i've never gone to therapy, nor want to don't have depression and i have never even tried drugs. i'm not upset that i was abused.

    the reason i said those things to her, was to invoke guilt and it worked.

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  24. You said something to a borderline to make them feel guilty and you feel this is some kind of an accomplishment? ::laughs:: Guilt is a default setting haha.

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  25. i can't remember ever feeling guilty and i have done much worse deeds than the majority of people.

    sometimes i feel slight shame, but it doesn't make me want to stop.

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  26. Congrats?

    Narcs have a lot of shame. They just overcompensate so no one sees it.

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  27. "You said something to a borderline to make them feel guilty and you feel this is some kind of an accomplishment? ::laughs:: Guilt is a default setting haha."

    it worked. when i degrade her, she has to take a xanax, which makes me laugh at her even more.

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  28. "Narcs have a lot of shame. They just overcompensate so no one sees it."

    hardly. i honestly think i'm a great person. most other people who have been through what i have been through, would be hooked on something. it's a testament to my character.

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  29. Big deal. You could pay her a compliment and she'd spin herself into anxiety wondering if you didn't think the compliment applied any other day.

    My point is that, of course it worked, but it's hardly an accomplishment b/c it probably would happen for a million other reasons regardless of your input.

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  30. Diagnosed NPD by a doctor? Or yourself?

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  31. I think the world is anarchy disguised as civilization. Just like me.

    Nice.

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  32. "Diagnosed NPD by a doctor? Or yourself?"

    myself. i fit the criteria
    precisely.

    i wondered if i was a sociopath, for some time, as i don't feel guilt or remorse.

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  33. Self diagnosed.

    Credible.

    Maybe you're just a jerk with an ego.

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  34. I have a freind with BPD and she has been centering her life around a guy that shows all signs of ASPD and a son who's 16.

    Her relationship with her son is needy and it's caused him to be withdrawn from other's his own age but he relates to her as a parent.
    She has had him take naps with her and sees this as how close they are. Flips on him whenever he says anything about her bizzare behavior to be the center of attention. It's outright embarrassing. She says things to embarrasses him also in front of anyone and complains about him not socializing and how much money he costs her if he does want to go some place with freinds.

    He is completely invisible or she uses him as an excuse. USES HIM is the foundation to their relationship.

    Chases this other guy and it's been 2 years now. Obsesses over him constantly. Even gets up in the night to drive by his house.

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  35. Fucking with the heads of Beepers is no fun, it's too easy. Messing with narcs is much more entertaining.
    Also, anarchy isn't necessarily synonymous with chaos. As a political ideal it simply means their are no leaders. as for sociopaths thriving in this type of situation; All the ways socios interac with our current society would be thrown out the window, a complete rethink of manipulation would be required. But I honestly think socios can thrive in any environment, we are survivors afterall.

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  36. "Anarchy is to power what love is to power."
    A shaman once told me that.

    Just kidding . . . or maybe not.

    Power and love, are unpredictable yet trackable evolving states. They both require real actions to fully develop. And certain personality types crave it more of it than others. Yet everyone is involved in the dance.

    Or so say the drummers or anyone ever swept up in a movement or in the throes of love

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  37. @Jane, I would never obsess over a man that way.

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  38. Specifically regarding post:
    Is it true that sociopathy thrives in anarchy?

    Or better question does mental illness serve in times of chaos?

    Heard an NPR interview of Nassir Ghaemi on his book, "First-Rate Madness: Uncovering the Links Between Leadership and Mental Illness"

    "Ghaemi explores the relationship of mental illness to creative leadership in times of crisis. He explains with great clarity the myriad meanings of mood disorder and other illnesses and ties this analysis to compassionate historical discussions of many of the most--and least--successful major leaders of the past two hundred years."

    Food for thought.

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  39. What is with socios and drum circles?

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  40. talking about beepers is more fun

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  41. I have never been to a drum circle or dated a shaman, at least I know I am not missing out on anything.

    Chaos is always fun.

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  42. If you have decent drummers and a common style drum circles aren't bad. Especially if you're a belly dancer. Than they're pretty awesome.

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  43. So now, talking about shamans is what the pisser is? I should dig my heals into studying them, and report all the information I find.

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  44. What's a beeper? Sorry, ive gathered the gist from contextual clues but I still don't really know

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  45. Belly dancing and fire dancers? Please tell me more. I have never heard of get togethers like this.

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  46. I want a man who HAS real maturity, not someone who is pretending. That is why *I* am trying to get real maturity. I want to be ready if he comes across my path. I meet many attractive men, all day long, in my line of work. I have gotten very particular, though. I will not pay attention to 90% of the men who seem to be interested in me. I am just not interested, back.

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  47. What kind of person has to masturbate so much, they do it all day, and night... whether you're in the room with them, or lying next to them... what have you...?

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  48. @Bluebird

    A beeper is someone with Borderline Personality Disorder

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  49. @Eden... is this a problem you're having with someone personally? hahah, sounds like any 16 year old boy to me.


    @Bella ... belly dancing and fire dancers and drum circles make for a lot of great SCA events (society for creative anachronism). There may be sword fighting too.

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  50. Not a problem anymore. I'm still trying to figure out the girl I recently dropped, after a two week romp. She said she's had to masturbate excessively since she was very young. Her other partners would kick her out of the bed for doing it... but I was curious.

    She masturbates to pacify a lot of urges, needs, sadness, boredom, etc.

    That's how she explained it to me anyway. She doesn't just do it to get off, but almost for security.

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  51. Huh, that's odd. I've never heard of that as an actual psychological issue.

    Sounds like she uses masturbation like a lot of people might use drugs or alcohol.... except with better endings and fewer track marks.

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  52. Oh blubird, I didn't notice you were still standing there.

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  53. I see. It's interesting. I dont think I have a personality disorder. Likely I have a mood disorder. I've done a lot of reading into PDs, wondering if maybe one of them would explain my behaviors but none of them do.

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  54. My friend wants to go to occupy LA to protest. I asked what it was precisely that she wanted to protest, but she doesn't really know. I'm all for protesting but not just for the sake of it. Protesting just to protest seems kind of silly to me.

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  55. What behaviors are you trying to explain Blue?

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  56. A little advise I won't be repeating, Bluebird: SW is probably that last place you want people telling you what your problem might be. Most of the people here would like nothing more than to make you think you're the dumbest, craziest, lowest piece of shit, on planet Earth.

    Get thee to a therapist, or stop trying to figure it out. People who self diagnose spend endless amounts of wasted energy, and time... obsessing over why they do the things they do.

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  57. off topic:

    http://today.msnbc.msn.com/id/44779678/ns/today-today_health/t/super-social-gene-may-hold-clues-autism-other-disorders/#.Tqe7xZtbGWQ

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  58. Sword fighting? Sounds like it can get interesting. Are these attendees more of an artistic crowd and is there any spiritual reasons behind it?

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  59. Eden sex addicts are fucking disgusting.

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  60. hanzoi kill bill style? Theraputic fer sur

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  61. People who self diagnose spend endless amounts of wasted energy, and time... obsessing over why they do the things they do.

    People should always question why they do things if they feel a glitch in their flow.

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  62. Eden, that is probably good advice. This is a good place to shoot the shit and it can be fun to watch all the personalities at play but now that you mention it I probably shouldn't expect any helpful insight about myself. It might be helpful to try therapy at some point just to see what a therapist would say about me. It's expensive though, and I'm supporting myself right now, can't expect any finacial help and I don't have any form of health insurance really....

    I had a friend tell me that I was the kind of person who wouldn't ever be able to "figure it all out" with a therapists help-that somehow I'd have to work through and figure out my issues on my own. Dig myself out of the hole through intensive introspection.

    I was going to answer haven but I don't really know, perhaps opening up to much about yourself here doesn't really get you too far.

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  63. Most of the people here would like nothing more than to make you think you're the dumbest, craziest, lowest piece of shit, on planet Earth.

    Hence the post: Anarchy

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  64. Sounds like advice a hippy would give you Bird.

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  65. You are interrupting story time

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  66. you can use a therapist if they're good, BB.

    There are good therapists and bad ones. And there are good clients and bad ones. -If you're bright and you can absorb and introspect, you're good. You get what you put in.

    You can also go round and round the maypole with some and not even know it.

    Gotta shop around.

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  67. Therapists help you find your own answers. If you already could do that yourself you wouldn't be in the situation you are in right now.

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  68. MMmmm

    pasta fagiole

    white bean escarole

    warm borcht with sour cream, potatoes and tenderized black anus,

    clam chowdah

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  69. Remind me, what is the difference between SW and masturbation?

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  70. why does socia adicted to sw???

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  71. UK or UKM...

    What does that empathetic specimen the Mrs. Intend to do with her degree?

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  72. Use it for ME's sand paper tp?

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  73. Haven

    are these meetings really peaceful like a pow wow?

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  74. Missus is Nurse Ratchett in One Flew Over the Cukoo's Nest.

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  75. I am trying to imagine them and I will look it up. My friends like to fight with pool sticks but I am thinking that it is not quite the same

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  76. @UKan

    It's not so much about having issues as it is trying to understand what makes you weak enough to have them. Anyway things aren't all so bad for me...I have lots of friends, I like my job and I'm doing well in school. I'm not sure if he's a sociopath anymore. There were things that definitly made me think so, and most sociopathic traits accord with him very well, but aspects of his behavior are very different from UKan here, or Mis. I kind of came here to this blog in the first place wondering if he was truely a sociopath or not. I used to just read ME's blog in order to get a better 1st person picture into a sociopaths head and much of what ME wrote made me suspect more strongly that he was sociopathic. But now that I've started interacting with you guys, like mis and UKan, I'm not positive anymore. Some people defy definition.

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  77. why would you want to fuck with a narcissist? you get nothing out of fighting strong people, if anything you'll get flattened. trust me, you won't get the better of a narcissist in an argument. messing with unstable borderlines is much better fun.

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  78. bluebird. your guy doesn't seem sociopathic, at all. if he were a sociopath, he would demand much more from you, material wise.

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  79. @anon 11:04

    The bigger they are, the harder they fall..

    Much more satisfying....

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  80. i don't consider it fighting and i don't take pleasure in the kill so you must not understand my motives

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  81. if a bad thought pops into a sociopaths head, the sociopath will probably do it.

    we don't have that voice telling us it's going to hurt the person or whatever. it's more the case of if we can get away with it or will her old man beat the shit out of me if i rob her etc. we are very sneaky.

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  82. "The bigger they are, the harder they fall.."

    if you fuck over a narcissist, they will try to get revenge, it's a bad idea. a weak person will sit there and let you abuse them.

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  83. if old man is a narc, u could disappear

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  84. you give them far too much credit. give them a mirror and they are entertained and content.

    for every PD there is high functioning and low functioning

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  85. She's going to be a therapist or teach psychology.

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  86. a sociopath will probably let you off the hook, if you offend them. not a narcissist. if you wound a narcs ego, they will do everything to destroy you. it's very easy to make the narcissist lose their temper.

    talk about other people and leave them out of the conversation, watch what they do.

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  87. If someone offends me I make a example of them. People are looking for weakness in my line of work. They test you with their words, so I show them with my actions.

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  88. ukan, do you get angry when people disagree with you?

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  89. i sleep with one eye open

    easiest way to take down a larger opponent if all else fails is to go for the throat with the back of your hand and cut off air supply. most people will expend all their energy trying to over power the opponent which can be exhausting. you need to find key spots and wait for the right moment.

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  90. Depends on what it is

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  91. Everybody wants to be a cat!

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  92. i fucking hate cats.

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  93. @Bella... no they're not usually spiritual. More just fun/reinactment type stuff.

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  94. so Blue what PD do you think you have? i am curious now.

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  95. I was never spiritual until last year when Jesus appeared to me.

    True story. I met Jesus sitting outside of the House of Blues of Sunset Blvd drinking a 40 with my buddy. He told me to be good.

    That's why I love L.A. and hope to go visit again one day.

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  96. UK

    Are you alluding to physical violence? Not so useful in every milieu. Money is a more typical means of exercising power.

    Words are weapons. Narcs and Sociopaths both decimate reputations with well placed innuendo. Either can have persuasive charm. The primary difference is a sociopath believes their objective, the narc believes their ego-- they get kinda rabid about any cracks in their reflection.

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  97. Bella...I don't think I have a personality disorder, although I've thought about it. None of them really fit my personality. I had this big book of personality disorders I used to read through quite often....for fun and because it was interesting but of course in the back of my mind I was paying attention to whether anything described fit me. And nothing really did or has. I think I might have bipolar but I hope not.

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  98. Cats are the bees knees!!!!!

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  99. I think you can go to a wide range of weirdness before it is, actually, a PD.
    A PD is when you are stuck at some extreme of the normal spectrum, in my way of thinking.

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  100. if you are dragged to the hospital by the police and proceed to barricade your room and throw shit and scream obscenities...you might have a PD lol

    it is like the red neck jokes! you might have a PD if... hahahaha

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  101. haven what would you do if someone killed your cat

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  102. Neither sociopaths nor narcissists are objective.

    Money doesn't mean influence or power. I've had both without having a dime. Some people aren't motivated by money. Giving money in the face of a threat would be seen as cowardice. I don't live the evryday miliue and never really have.
    Take for instance yesterday I went and met someone to setup a new line for product. I had told one of my earners that to keep a eye out for someone selling so I could find a new wholesaler. I told her that if we made a agreement I woukd reward her 500.
    Originally she found this guy in a free market area that was pushing. She told hin her boss want to meet him about the product he has. He scoffed at her and was a arsehole. She told me about it, so I started scheming to have him robbed. She told me to hold off because she had another guy. I met up with this other guy yesterday and by coincidence we brought up the arsehile nd the guy said he worked for him. He was his protege. He gave me a price that was ridiculous. I refused and told him to give his boss a offer that I would supply a product I had that he couldn't get a hold of if he coukd get my other product line back up. He said his boss planned on monopolizing the trade in my area of the product line that I'm currently having issues with. His protege had a big mouth. I told hin to give hin the offer anyway. If he disagrees I will come down on that upstart and decimate him. That's how I settle disagreements.

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  103. You are probably just fine Blue.

    If you start spending all your money on gambling and hookers and then attempt to kill yourself after the mania has passed, then I would start to question myself if I was you. Until then I wouldn't give it much thought.

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  104. "Hunt the person down."

    hahaha. are you serious?

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  105. I will fucking torture the person that harms my cat motherfuckers!!!!

    .......Hi :)

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  106. i bet all you lonely women here have a cat.

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  107. I would eat Mis for breakfast....He's sexy....

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  108. lol sure if you want to watch men be raped for sport

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  109. cute personality but that isn't enough

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  110. I had a hamster named Fuzzy Butt. I put him in the toilet and flushed it to see if he could swim.

    He couldn't :(

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  111. haven what if someone did this with your cat? and he dieded

    http://theync.com/media.php?name=24293-shocking-video

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  112. I used to parachute my hamsters out of the dining room windows to see if I could devise something that would work and provide a safe landing.

    I could.

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  113. I'm so not watching that video.

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  114. I think it isn't so much that sociopathy seeks or thrives in anarchy, but more that anarchy has a very high demand for sociopaths. To many sissy academics, not enough strong leaders. So i think sociopaths just naturally fall into anarchistic situations to fill the natural demand for someone a little less feely.

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  115. poor little Fuzzy Butt LMAO

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  116. "I'm so not watching that video."

    it's hilarious. bunch of mexicans slinging a dog off a bridge.

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  117. Is that the model you were designing last night?

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  118. i have a purty Rhodesian Ridgeback mix god she can be such a pain but she is smart and fierce

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  119. MK

    are you attracted to your huddys leadership

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  120. Mis is more mysterious than Ukan...which makes him more attractive!

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  121. Yes, Mis is sexier than UKan. TNP is sexy, too.

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  122. got a high school crush eh :P

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  123. TNP would be a good lover, in my humble opinion.

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  124. @anon 1:55

    Yeah, having crushes is fun hehe :P Oh cool, a sex appeal rater! We agree that Mis is sexier too..

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  125. I like the cockmaster! Is that wrong?

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  126. OccupySociopathWorldOctober 26, 2011 at 2:01 PM

    Shamans are sexier when they drum with anarchy in their eyes.

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  127. sure if you wanna be talked to death and smothered with emotioncons

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  128. that was about tnp

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  129. A good lover is both touch and tender. There has to be a balance as in a fine, gourmet dinner.

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  130. Mis would be so rough! I love it like that....

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  131. WHY TNP IS NOT SEXY

    1.he is in therapy

    2.whines about blood lust

    3.has a fan club of victims

    4.i don't share similar perspectives

    5.too argumentative !!!

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  132. mis is smart but he might have a dead bodies stashed lol

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  133. I agree that TNP is not sexy by the way...This is the Mis crusher that's talking...I'll call myself 'lass' from now on so you know who's talking hehe

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  134. If Mis had dead bodies stashed around I think that'd only turn me on more.....I'm not sure lol..

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  135. OK so he could be sexy if self preservation didn't sink in

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  136. Come on...lets vote to settle this...Who is the sexiest guy here, eh? My vote is for Mis..

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  137. Zwaqh for sure! mr roboto :D

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  138. WHY TNP IS SEXY

    1.He keeps secret to why his blog is down.

    2. Therapy takes balls, guts and curiosity.

    3. He whines just enough to arise sympathy.

    4. He wants to be a hero.

    5. He used to be a shaman.

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  139. The sexiest guy is Lycan.

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  140. There is something remotely cute about Zhawq....but that's it...cute...

    Wheatley's cute too...not sure about sey though....

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  141. Anon 2:28
    I agree with all of them but number 5. I think this shaman stuff is code word for a dirty, ratty loser.

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  142. sorry anons i know what i like and TNP is not a turn on. no 2 on the list is right but that doesn't mean its turn on

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  143. I would take a shit on blubird after humiliating her in front of people.

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  144. everyone has their preference...

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  145. I bet the people saying TNP is sexy IS TNP lol :P

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  146. Wheatley for sure!!! ^.^

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  147. there does have to be a balance in traits to be attractive

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  148. wheatley is boring. he would be trying to mathmatically figure out how to insert his penis into a vagina

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  149. Ukan, Ukan, he's our man! If he can't do it no one Kan!

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  150. Men of SW calendar commiteeOctober 26, 2011 at 2:51 PM

    Who should hold the Mr.February position?

    With 12 months, there is room for all!

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  151. i like Mickey and we share sweet jane

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  152. @anon 2:46

    Ha! Loved it...Wheatley's more cutesy than sexy...Sorry, fan..

    Has to be Mis! Direct, aloof, smart and rough...

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  153. Mis could be under Lycan. If you accept that, we have a launch.

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  154. TNP is boring! All he does is create Mediocre walls of text! Someone with some excitement is needed! Maybe Ukan or Mis????

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  155. Who is Lycan? And why can't M.E be part of the sexy debate?

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  156. It's good song Sweet Jane

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  157. Ukan is as sexy as taking out the garbage in non stick slippers.

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  158. ME can be part of it, of course.

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  159. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PYZa70LOXm8

    so peaceful

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  160. Non stick slippers? lol :P

    Lets rate the regulars out of sexiness: Mis=9
    Ukan=8
    TNP=3
    Wheatley=6
    Zhawq=5

    Emm, I think that's correct...

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  161. I thought Wheatley was a girl haha

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  162. I am glad you liked non stick slippers.

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  163. Oh, well in that case...M.E=9

    I like his/hers calm and mysterious presence...And super intelligent too!

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  164. Ukan, Ukan, he's our man! If he can't do it no one Kan!

    Are you the same person that made that corny rap for M.E.?

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  165. Wheatley is all man, Haven hehe ^.^

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  166. How is zWaq even on your list. She's a one legged tranvestite with assburgers that's overweight and absolutely insane. How low will you sink just to get some strange? I guess we know.

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  167. I see you people are playing Hot or Not again.

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  168. Daniel Birdick is sexy in an intellectual way.

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  169. Zhawq is a girl? You should be grateful! I put you as 8....anyways....Zhawq is only on it for bring 'cutesy'..not sexy..

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  170. That was in response to Ukan...

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  171. Join in Medusa! :D

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  172. I agree that Daniel Birdick is sexy in a intellectual way...I'll add him as a...7?

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  173. Wheatley Is a girl, he just refuses to admit it.

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  174. I've never seen much of Zhawq before..only a few messages lol...If he's that bad I COULD remove him from the list people :P

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  175. What about a list for the females here? It cant all be about the males.

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  176. Lol. Mathematics was actually the only subject I failed on my exams and--ironically--also the only subject I studied for. Although it was only three hours, most of which I spent doing nothing.

    Anyway, isn't the whole 'point' of sociopathy/psyhopathy its adaptability? So why would you argue about what environments it would thrive in? Clever sociopaths could use practically any situation to their advantage, no? Anarchy is simply a blank slate, something that has to be turned in something else first, before you can make a profit out of it.

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  177. I don't mind doing a female list :P I'm not picky....

    The sexiest woman is Eden...Hands down...She's got a wild side that I like...I like the mystery behind Medusa though..

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  178. The sexiest girl, by far, is Sweetcheeks.

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  179. I had a mental image of someone having sex with this fat 50 year old lady with thick walled glasses and one leg. Ice cream splotches all over the floor and old pizza boxes scattered around the house.

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  180. You should put frank on the creepy list

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  181. i vote for Fluffy!

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  182. ::Laughs:: Ew, Ukan, Ew! I'm never going to get that out of my head now haha

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  183. Haven has a slightly above average body.

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  184. After your done she says, "bend over it's my turn."

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