From a book review by the NY Post:
Among other indulgences, Roberts whose run-ins with famous people of all types made him a sort of self-styled "“Forrest Gump of crime and depravity,” claimed to have "drugged Ed Sullivan (here with Jayne Mansfield) and tried to blackmail him with a prostitute." The most memorable quote from his father was "“The evil path is the strong path because evil is stronger than good.”Jon Roberts was a made man, a drug smuggler, a killer. He hobnobbed with OJ Simpson and Ed Sullivan, rubbed shoulders with Pablo Escobar and Carlo Gambino, and made enemies out of John Gotti and Ronald Reagan.He tortured college students for fun, helped snuff-out “mob accountant” Meyer Lansky’s stepson and admits to brutalizing his ex-girlfriend with a belt when she tried to leave him. He flooded the country with cocaine in the 1980s.Regrets? He has none.“So would you call yourself a psychopath?” The Post asked him on Friday.“Well, that depends on how you define psychopath,” Roberts said.“A lack of empathy or remorse.”“Well, then, yes I am,” he said. “I enjoyed my life. How many other people lived the life I did? Maybe that Bernie guy, but who else?”
Why can't all sociopaths be this glamorous? ;)
Well Jon Roberts will not find eternity so enjoyable. God is just as just as his is long-suffering. He knows who are his and who aren't.
ReplyDeleteThe sociopath I, unfortunately have known only faked a belief in God so as to manipulate. He is going to be very surprised to discover there is one when he dies.
I wish I could say there was no God and therefore no hell, but God does exist - I know that he exists for a fact. For me it is not a matter of belief or faith it's literally a fact. I am not going to get into how I know this, suffices to say I could not doubt his existence even if I wanted to. Sometimes I do choose not to think about it though.
Sociopaths are held accountable like the rest of us because they know right from wrong - they just don't care. It is easy for some to refrain from drinking and others not so much yet we are all called to the same standard which is not to be a drunkard. The same goes for lying, cheating, stealing, adultery, fornicating, murder, envying, boasting, covetousness, bitterness, anger, resentment, arrogance, and self pity to name most, but certainly not all. It may be easy for me to refrain from murder, but not bitterness yet I am to refrain from both, if I don't there will be some serious consequences, some in this life and some in the next.
The only thing I can do is accept God's gift of grace through his son's shed blood and then deny the 'lusts" (ie.,the list above) as best I can by seeking out his holy spirit each day which increases my appetite substantially for things that are good, pure, lovely resulting in becoming more tender- hearted, generous, kind, patient etc.
It's been shown that our emotions and behavior affect the very structure of our brains - we can literally change our wiring. The truth is - we are all dead hollow men to one degree or another - until we choose to ask God to give us a life in the spirit instead of our dead lives in the flesh.
Should read as just as he is long-suffering in the first sentence above.
ReplyDeleteI wish I could say there was no God and therefore no hell, but God does exist - I know that he exists for a fact. For me it is not a matter of belief or faith it's literally a fact. I am not going to get into how I know this, suffices to say I could not doubt his existence even if I wanted to.
ReplyDeleteYour entire comment is void and has no value whatsoever without that one piece of information you deliberately left out.
If you said you based your belief in god on faith, that would have been a different story and I would have just ignored your comment.
Or was your point just to come off as a special snowflake? With some special God knowledge that the other Christian plebs don't have?
So, no, it's doesn't "suffice" at all, especially if you are going to present the existence of God as provable FACT, as you just did.
ReplyDelete@missus
ReplyDeleteWhat a bucket of shit you wrote about me blaming others and my parents who gave up on me.
I've actually admitted that I screw up a lot of opportunities in my life, and I honeslty don't care that much. Concerning my parents they care about me to the point that it's a burden, my life would be much easier without them.
You try to play being a shrink and just spit out what feels is right. In this case it's the opposite of how things are. You should explore if you have other talents.
"Should you call yourself psychopath?"
ReplyDelete...If you have no remorse?
I usually say No, because I don't have any reasons to have remorse.
Yeah, I call myself psychopath at my website, but in all other situations I certainly do not. Most people I know are not aware that I have a diagnosis, and that's how I prefer it.
It seems that being a Christian is at the top of the list for the ones that are attacked on this blog.
ReplyDeleteNo one needs to prove why since it's a daily affirmation and personal relationship.
If you don't believe it, so be it.
But the world would be a much better place IMO.
I think that person thought he was happy, but never experienced true happiness. If you never had an orgasm, you would never know what it was. I don't think he had the an inkling what true happiness was. Yes, he had pleasure and a lot of it, but not happiness.
ReplyDeleteWell I must admitt I don't like christianity neither, do the point that I sometimes despise it. They put weakness and suffering on a pedestal, and that can be taken literally (jesus dying on his cross as a symbol of christianity).
ReplyDeleteAnd the whole all mighty god thing having himself a human son dying on a cross to save humanity. The father, the son and the wholy spirit. It's laughable, many children tales make more sense.
Nietzsche called the new testament the most foolish literary work ever made in western civilization. I guess he was right.
@monica
ReplyDeleteInteresting point.
lol David, that is not the story, but I don't want to preach on this blog.
ReplyDeleteMedusa is right “joy”. That whole “I know for a fact but I’m not gonna tell you how I know” thing just doesn’t work. Absence of evidence sometimes really is evidence of absence. Which, Tikles, leads me to believe that the special divine relationship you speak of is with yourself only. In other words, theism = mental masturbation.
ReplyDeleteAnd Monica, two things. First, one man’s pleasure is another man’s happiness. Happiness is an ill defined term and highly subjective. Second, your comment is the kind of thing people tell themselves when they want to avoid the possibility that so called “evil” people can be entirely content with their lives. Hell, “bad people” might even die satisfied, knowing that they’ve lived their lives without apology and on their own terms. This idea trivializes normal folks life long effort to color inside the lines.
There is no evidence and thus no reason to believe that anything like divine justice or karmic retribution exists. Galling, isn’t it?
Yes, Daniel, to happiness being an ill defined term and highly subjective. I thought that, as well, as I wrote this. Yes, to your latter point about the uncomfortable nature of "evil" people being happy.
ReplyDeleteI thought what Monica ment is when you take away the thrills in the life of a sociopath that gives him or her pleasure, the person will quickly get bored and feel empty (speaking from experience). So the hapiness (although ofcourse subjective) is maybe more 'shallow'.
ReplyDeleteDavid, maybe that is true, but only in a trivial sense. It’s trivial because you can theoretically say that about almost anyone. Substitute thrills and pleasure in your sentence with close relationships and satisfaction and many, if not most people, will feel empty.
ReplyDelete@Daniel
ReplyDeleteYes but one could argue that what gives the average sociopath pleasure is of a more brief and less sustainable nature.
Tik, it's not the Christian part I am arguing with right now. I've never said I believed or didn't believe in anything religiously related here.
ReplyDeleteIt's the "I have special knowledge" arrogance that many people have, that use this to paint themselves as superior. It's even worse when it's their first comment. They feel entitled to assume the role Moral Police without even spending some time to look around and listen.
It's always a personal vendetta, but I guess it doesn't count as a sin because it's done over the internet to strangers.~
Monica, very few people in this Earth know sustained happiness, if it's even possible. Regular people and empaths likely experience even less happiness than a psychopath does. This is not to say that they psychopath is necessarily "happy", but they are likely to be less sad.
You are not very happy, either. You seem to be saying that the dude in this blog post is unhappy, and it's his fault for doing things wrong in life, but then can you apply that logic to yourself and be okay with it?
In short, the psychopath in question could look at someone like you and say that the type of person you are will never experience true happiness.
Tomatoes, ketchup.
Well Daniel, I smell bait and if Joy has done any reading of this blog she knows that giving any instances of proof will be ran through your personal experience scan and will be then judged as the lunatic ravings of a victim that needs to believe there is some almighty out there who will crush all their tormentors.
ReplyDeleteIf you can't experience love, commitment or putting another's well being into plans, then the whole concept would be foolishness to you.
But where would you be without those that hold themselves to a moral code of conduct? Those that want good for others?
We're all just human and not one of us is correct about everything.
Did your father fail you? He was a minister. Did you see all of his short comings and decide that Christian's . Or was he so intent on religion and rules that he gave no leeway to the human nature to discover for ones self and grow as an indivisual? Maybe he was over indulgent and covered up all your indiscrestions for his reputation.
Whatever your reason is for not seeing that someone can have a real relationship with a God that created them does not mean they don't have one.
"This is not to say that they psychopath is necessarily "happy", but they are likely to be less sad."
ReplyDeleteAlso interesting comment. That makes me think of Schopenhauer who wrote that one should not measure the success of life on the amount of pleasure but on the absence of pain/discomfort. And there's a good point in suggesting that empaths suffer more than sociopaths.
Yes, if I ever figure out what true happiness and master is, I will come back and write a treatise . Until that time, don't hold your breath.
ReplyDeleteWe're all just human and not one of us is correct about everything.
ReplyDeleteTa da, my dear. How come people forget this so easily? Say, between sentences?
Regarding a personal relationship with God... that's fine, I don't have a problem with that, and I do have some respect for it. That stuff is none of my business, anyhow, or anyone else's, nor should it be. Live and let live. It's a personal relationship. Keyword. Personal.
But Joy presented it all as fact, above and beyond a personal relationship. You are defending against something I am not presently arguing with.
Knee jerk.
David, yes, you could argue that. So what. The point is almost all of the traditional sources of happiness are transitory and ephemeral. Comparing which ones are more stable is ultimately meaningless when all of them can be wiped away by something so simple as unwelcome truth or a bullet.
ReplyDeleteLol, Schopenhauer also said that the goal of life is death, and if you aren't an extreme pessimist, citing him his useless as an argument tactic ;)
ReplyDeleteAlthough I personally don't think that the concept is pessimistic at all. And it actually sounds pretty Christian, funnily enough.
ReplyDeleteOnly difference is semantics.
For the Christian, lets be honest, real happiness is in the after life. No Christian worth his or her salt would argue. It is how it is, Friends.
ReplyDeleteShe's applying what she believes to certain indivisuals and giving her perception on it.
ReplyDeleteWhat she reads about someone will always filter through her belief that God has the last say.
I know that you posted a while back that a woman who was going to be attacked was protected by what appeared to be angels. What did you think of that?
No Tikles, it won’t be judged as lunatic ravings. At least, no more lunatic than any other theists’. Actually, I’m open to evidence and sound reasoning. I’ve looked at religion from a variety of angles, which is why I’m so confident in my current conclusion about god. Not close minded, mind you. Just confident.
ReplyDeleteThe rest of your comments… they call it moving the goal posts. From proof to personal experience to an argument from utility. Nothing whatsoever about why anyone should believe that your personal relationship with god is anything more than you enjoying private time with a pretend friend.
My dad was a dick. So what? That has no bearing on whether the god you have a personal relationship with exists or not. I’m open. If you’ve got something that will show me why I should in fact embrace god, then by all means let me hear it.
She's applying what she believes to certain indivisuals and giving her perception on it.
ReplyDeleteWhat she reads about someone will always filter through her belief that God has the last say.
That's fine, but it's not necessary to be so arrogant about it. It's a hindrance when you are trying to persuade or convince. People don't trust arrogance and it just creates more distance and rebellion. And you're kinda doing the same thing you accuse others of in your arrogance.
(I mean the general 'you', by the way. Or Jay.)
I know that you posted a while back that a woman who was going to be attacked was protected by what appeared to be angels. What did you think of that?
Who are you asking?
@Medusa
ReplyDeleteI wasn't citing Schopenhauer as an argument as I wasn't arguing or making a point. It was just a quote of him that came across my mind that related to the discussion.
It's like some people think that their arrogance will result in their intended audience having lightbulbs show up above their heads accompanied by a "ding ding!" and shouting, "My God, you are so right! Thank you sooooo much!"
ReplyDeleteOr, if they don't, then they are just a bunch of jerks! Scum of the Earth! They will burn, and never be happy! Right?
And then they invariably have a temper tantrum, try to defend themselves and fail, and then disappear never to be seen again.
Sounds like narcissistic injury to me, in the name of "having a relationship with God". This is what gives Christianity a bad name for many folks. Passing one thing off as another, and I'm quite sure the vast majority of these people are completely unaware of this in themselves, and will remain unaware until they die.
Peace may be attainable, whereas happiness may, always, be fleeting.
ReplyDeletePeace is just as fleeting. Especially with the existence of the types that gather 'round these parts.
ReplyDeleteOr do you mean peace of mind? If so, I can agree that it may be more sustainable than happiness.
Peace may be attainable, whereas happiness may, always, be fleeting.
ReplyDeleteNow see Monica, this I like. My study of Eastern religions and mysticism leads me to believe that a minority of religious practitioners, those that leave behind exoteric forms of religion, may very well experience states that permanently change their brains, leaving them feeling an underlying sense of peace. At least, there are so many reports like that spread throughout religious history that I think it must be theoretically possible. This would be the “peace that passes all understanding”.
Medusa, this comment assumes Monica means a kind of peace of mind.
Lol, Schopenhauer also said that the goal of life is death, and if you aren't an extreme pessimist, citing him his useless as an argument tactic ;)
ReplyDeleteNovember 14, 2011 7:10 AM
ɱɵᴅʊsa said...
Although I personally don't think that the concept is pessimistic at all. And it actually sounds pretty Christian, funnily enough.
Only difference is semantics.
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so if you're an extremer pessimist with major depression and the afterlife is all you have to "look forward" to, if you ask me you might as well live like a heathen and fuck pious.
Medusa I agree with you about some of the thumpers, they took their personality with them and didn't apply what they were learning to themselves.
ReplyDeleteOther's might feel attacked and go on the defence back. Human nature is not stable and humans are not consistant. I'm not defending, just thinking about differences in each indivisual.
Every person is accountable for themself and how they interact with others.
Medusa, I was asking you about the woman in the park with the angels.
I don't remember any such story?
ReplyDeleteAh I just did a search and found it.
ReplyDeleteThat was about that one lady who has amygdala damage and does not have the ability to feel fear.
http://listverse.com/2011/11/14/10-monumental-malignantly-narcissistic-sociopaths/
ReplyDeleteBundy should be number one on every psychopath list.
so inner peace = contentment /=/ joy
ReplyDeleteJoy is the fleeting. This in short bursts.
If I am a pessimist because I have a biological ailment and I walk around talking myself out of my head, but it still gnaws at my every fiber, that is not a natural fucking "god given" state.
I want more small joys to compensate. And I don't believe in the afterlife. Is this why I feel like a baby blob that needs to be given a new shiny thing to think about every 5 secs or I will start to get cranky?
It's ridiculous.
I assume this is what you're referring to:
ReplyDeleteFourteen years ago, she was walking through a small park at 10pm, when a man beckoned her over to a bench. As she approached, he pulled her down stuck a knife to her throat and said, “I’m going to cut you, bitch!” SM didn’t panic; she didn’t feel afraid. Hearing a church choir sing in the distance, she confidently said, “If you’re going to kill me, you’re gonna have to go through my God’s angels first.” The man let her go and she walked (not ran) away. The next day, she returned to the same park.
Her response had more to do with her brain anomaly rather than faith.
Though I guess she could interpret it as faith if she really wanted to. It's a choice.
How much damage does severe depression and trauma do to the amygdala? What about the use of lots of psychotrophics?
ReplyDeleteYou think Angel lady has fucked up empathy, too?
ReplyDeletebye
ReplyDeleteVery interesting discussion. Thank you, all. I have to hop a plane, but will be back.
ReplyDeleteHow much damage does severe depression and trauma do to the amygdala?
ReplyDeleteA lot, probably. I'm not sure if I would necessarily always call it 'damage' though. People, including scientists, seems to phrase it like larger is better regarding the amygdala, but that's a moral judgement. It ain't the size of the boat, it's the motion in the ocean...
But anyway, the amygdala regulates social interest, so it would only make sense that someone who is a bit distanced or feeling alienated (the empathy-challenged, the depressed, etc.) would have a smaller amygdala.
Psychotropics... I'd be curious to know what effect they have or don't have on the amygdala, because I don't know.
I'm not sure how malleable it is... how much is determined by birth, how hard and how long it takes to expand or shrink, if it assimilates or accommodates instead, stuff like that.
You think Angel lady has fucked up empathy, too?
Good question. It would logically follow that she would lack it to a large degree... unless scientists are totally wrong in assuming that all social interest is concentrated in the amygdala, which is entirely possible.
Yes Medusa, I just found it too. Dec. 20, 2010 at 10:20.
ReplyDeleteHow much do you think empathy has to do with faith?
That's a big question, tik, but I'll try to answer.
ReplyDeleteI think they can very much be related.
People with a true personal relationship with their God (or whatever their choice of name or concept, faith needs not always be religious or involve a God figure, although it is spiritual) tend to understand an inherent Oneness of all existence. And it follows that the awareness of this Oneness would create empathy, as everyone is the same person, all a part of the same entity. In my mind, this Oneness is Faith.
One could even call it narcissism if they so desired. "Well, if you and everyone else is really me, then of course I feel for you because I feel for myself."
Has anyone coined the term "Benevolent Narcissism' yet?
Although I'm sure that there are those that interpret this Oneness, this Faith, as solipsism. These folks probably don't have a whole lot of empathy. Instead of everyone as One is the same universe, it's everyone as One in his universe.
Yes, healthy narcissism lol
ReplyDeleteRereading this Angel lady article, I'm tempted to conclude that she must lack empathy to a degree in at least one department.
ReplyDeleteShe can’t tell what fearful facial expressions mean, even though she’s more than capable of discerning other emotions. Even though she’s a talented artist, she can’t draw a scared face, once claiming that she didn’t know what such a face would look like.
In fact, out of a range of 50 possible emotional descriptions, the one she rated most highly over 3 months was “fearless”.
Has anyone coined the term "Benevolent Narcissism' yet?
ReplyDeleteYou just did Medusa.
I’ve thought of the ongoing non-dual awareness similarly. It’s selfishness, but where everyone is seen as you. Or conversely, the non-dualists might say that there is no self and that nothing and everything are one. It wouldn’t require believing in absence of evidence or experience. Ongoing non-dual awareness is how they say they see the world.
I italicized they say because who knows how true that is? Take them out of their Tibetan monasteries and Indian caves and drop them into a big city, force them to earn a living and make their way in the modern world. I wonder how stable their non-dual mindset would be under those conditions.
I don't see it as we're all the same exactly. We all can have the same, no on excluded.
ReplyDeleteGod doesn't love me more then anyone else, but no one loves me more then God.
There are things that have happened in my life that I concider to be miracles. There have been out right miracles and healings. But these are not what my relationship are founded on.
Narcissism has to be had in the right does. Too little is sick. Too much is sick *rolleyes*. None is the worse, perhaps.
ReplyDeleteI don't see it as we're all the same exactly.
ReplyDeleteAnd that's not what I meant, either.
Perhaps a fair analogy would be that each person, atom, thing is a separate limb attached to a singular torso. One body.
I wish some of these folks who refer to miracles and healings and the empirical 'fact' of God would talk about these things more. Although I suppose I'd understand why you wouldn't want to do that here.
Take them out of their Tibetan monasteries and Indian caves and drop them into a big city, force them to earn a living and make their way in the modern world. I wonder how stable their non-dual mindset would be under those conditions.
Fucking urban shaman!
Although really, I suppose these urban shaman take the opposite approach. They introduce their urban Self, Ego and dualism to the remote mountains of Mexico instead of the other way around.
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ReplyDeletewhen you take away the thrills in the life of a sociopath that gives him or her pleasure, the person will quickly get bored and feel empty (speaking from experience). So the hapiness (although ofcourse subjective) is maybe more 'shallow'.
You are not a sociopath david, you are a depressed whore who's entire life is based on getting fucked for attention. The reason you are depressed is not because someone took away your fucking thrills. It's because you based your entire life around your sexuality and now you are getting old and used up. Prostitution is a short lived career choice. I have not seen one prostitute make it. Eventually they all become addicts just like you are right now. Do you know why david? Because you are back to square one. You are back to the days when bullies would make you hide behind the rubbish bin, only now the bully is your prospective future.
Joy, why would you wish there is no God and therefore no hell?
ReplyDeleteI had a personal encounter with Jesus as a young adult that went beyond a mere intellectual understanding of who He is. According to what I have recently learned about ASPD, I believe that I was fully psychopathic when He intervened in my life. (Violent, impulsive, fearless, criminal, cruel.)
He came to me in a dream, blew directly into my solar plexus, and told me: "your heart was blocked and you were in danger of dying, but you will be ok now." I have never felt or experienced anything remotely like it since then. At the time I didn't get it: I even asked Jesus if it was because I smoked! At 21, I literally thought He meant that my arteries were clogged! When I read in the New Testament, much later, that Jesus imparted the Holy Spirit to His disciples by blowing upon them, I was reduced to tears. So I accept your explanation: God has also shown Himself to me in concrete ways that I cannot easily rationalize away.
The part of me that had become very hard and black was healed when I accepted Christ into my life. Nevertheless, I am genetically predisposed to this crap - my father is a psychopath and I strongly suspect that my maternal uncle is as well. Thus, I must deal with some (ok, many) of its lovely attributes. I can love others (my close family in terms of my feelings, all others in terms of my actions) but I have seriously blunted empathy- I cannot "feel the pain of others." I also struggle daily with poor impulse control, a terrible temper, and inappropriate outbursts. I can numb my emotions and turn off my conscience like a faucet. Thankfully, all of the real "psycho" stuff is gone. (For example, my "friends" and I don't chase each other around with knives anymore. This is something a sociopathic acquaintance and I used to do as adolescents to alleviate our boredom. I kid you not.)
Those of us predisposed to this kind of deviance understand it; we recognize it right away inside ourselves as we read the clinical descriptions of the behaviors- both historic and present- and traits of sociopathy. We don’t need psychologists, or anyone else for that matter, to confirm what we already know to be true about ourselves when we are directly confronted by it.
I know that God saved me in spite of who I was, but I still struggle with all kinds of baggage that I hadn’t realized was quite as abnormal as I am now forcing myself to acknowledge.
I have to admit that I still have a lot of sociopathic tendencies. For example, I have an extremely high sex drive, and my predilections are deviant.I never make love. “Making love” does not interest or excite me at all; I have no desire for normal, affectionate sex.
I don't have any deep friendships. I don’t really need people and more often than not, I would rather be alone or with my husband. I frequently look for ways to avoid social functions. Fortunately, it is rather easy for me to do so because I am often legitimately very busy.
I am just now discovering that my hairline trigger temper, irrational outbursts peppered with abusive language, and failure to take responsibility for my own unethical actions are part of a toxic relating style that is rooted in my previous psychopathy. I have also been forced to acknowledge that any remorse I feel is extremely shallow. And in many ways, I am at a loss for how to deal with myself.
I have struggles that the majority of my Christian acquaintances *cannot* relate to. That is why I am here. I have not opened up to any of them about this stuff, as I highly doubt they would understand my "issues". But that doesn't make my faith any less authentic.
I realize the only way I can truly get better is to "confront my demons", if you will forgive the pun. We are not all assholes. Some of us actually want to help ourselves by channeling these traits productively, as opposed to reacting in the self-destructive ways to which we are bent. I include myself among that group.
I'll give you one Medusa.
ReplyDeleteI came home at 11:30 one night and as soon as I walked in the door I heard a car hit it's breaks and a thud. I went in the kitchen to get my cats food and because she wasn't in the house i took it out to the front porch, she came out of a bush but not up to me. I sensed something wrong and went back out. i saw blood hanging from her jaw, she ran inside and under the kitchen table. Her jaw was hanging down. I called the animal hospital and they gave me the only one opened at that time of night, it was about 40 min. away from my house.
The babysitter said she would stay so I could take her with my husband. All three of us saw it. We caught her and got her in the van. The cat was flipping out and tryed to climb up the back of the drivers seat going right for his head, over and over. We saw a cop on the side of the road and pulled over to see if he would put her out of her misery before she killed us all. he shown the flashlight on her for 15 min. and didn't feel like he could shot her. So we said we would just take her to the hospital. Back on the road my huband said we needed gas or we would run out.
I was already sick to my stomach and he was feeling sick from the smell of blood, but we had to get the gas. The whole time this is going on I'm asking God where are you, I need you. More for the panic and sick feeling I had and kept thinking of that poem about the footprints.
When we pulled into the gas station I was straddling the cat to the floor and holding her in place at her shoulders. It's as if I was in a sound proof room, no other sound except a voice that said, 'if you believe in me then touch it', I said, no I can't. It said touch it. I became real warm and felt calm out of no where. I put my hand under her jaw and my fingers in the corner of her mouth. I heard the voice say 'take off the flea collar. (the cat was calm to)I took off the flea collar, her jaw went up and the blood was gone, not one drop. My husband got back in the van (he was getting air). The cat sat on my lap all the way back home.
I felt so much shock and maybe denial that I couldn't talk about it for months.
Who is relating that spiritual experience? Is it Joy or the person known as Alterego?
ReplyDeleteIn reguards to the article, life is short. You got to soak it all up. Jon did the right thing in life: Doing whatever he wanted to. He didn't have to pay any consequences in life, so people are jealous of him naturally. To the people who are not living life like that right now: You are wasting time. Grab a pistol and the last of your shite savings and go buy yourself a ounce and get started. You can have and do whatever you want in life. It's all up to you. The only reason your life is boring is because you are a boring person.
ReplyDeleteAnon: I posted one, and Tik posted another one right under mine. My experience relates to psychopathy, and how I believe I was healed of it when I accepted Christ. I have no idea whether Tik also struggles with sociopathic tendencies.
ReplyDeleteYou're still the bullie you were in high school Ukan. The only thing that changed is that your vocabulary grew a bit, besides from that you haven't evolved since then.
ReplyDeleteAlthough I must say that your rants, literally repeating yourself over and over again start to amuse me :-)
Tik, that is the greatest piece of bollocks ever told here, thank you for that experience. I'm sure you believe it to. Tik the disciple. If there was a god the last miracle he would pull is saving your stupid fucking cat and her jaw when there's people being hacked to death in africa. I'm sure you are going to tell me that we can't predict gods will. Well I can tell you if a god would take his time to heal your cat, but let the syrian government rake across their own populaion with tanks he has his priorties fucked up.
ReplyDeleteYour relationship with god is a delusion. I've asked people to give me proof of god before and they have given me similiar miracleous stories or the one about them being in bed and having this invisible force (They believed to be the devil) holding them down and god coming and saving them. I heard that one several time from several people. Makes me wonder if you christians trade out lies to tell non believers.
I struggle with some similar traits as you Alterego, but I know I'm not a sociopath. Every human that is open to new experiences with thrills and selfishness or desires that present themself steps into things that will numb them to all the ones that had happened before.
ReplyDeleteI don't live with regret it's all a learning process.
I'm thankful that I've stayed on this site long enough to read what you've written.
"Makes me wonder if you christians trade out lies to tell non believers."
ReplyDeleteNo they are more drunk of their god than Amy Winehouse was of alcohol. They are so obsessed they believe teir own crap.
Well I can tell you if a god would take his time to heal your cat, but let the syrian government rake across their own populaion with tanks he has his priorties fucked up.
ReplyDeleteBingo.
Dang woman, next time use a cat carrier!
ReplyDeleteThis is not the first time I've heard of a cat having a spaz attack from one of those flea collars. A friend's cat had some kind of epileptic seizure from some Hertz crap and was foaming at the mouth.
But anyway... was this an audible voice, or more of a mental voice? With actual words in English, or more vague than that, like when you are thinking to yourself, only more poignant? Wouldn't you say the "voice" could be chalked up any number of things? Like, intuition, for instance? And/or the disassociation that comes with high levels of panic and stress? One could, of course, decide to interpret even these logical explanations as a form of God will if they so wished.
Does God/Jesus have a personality disorder? I mean, that "if you really loved me, you'd do this and that" thing is pretty damn manipulative, and classic BPD behavior.
I'm not trying to be facetious or merely play Devil's advocate here (or maybe I am), but I am interested in what it is that makes a person decide (although perhaps you'd say it wasn't a decision) how to interpret a specific event.
ReplyDeleteThankfully, all of the real "psycho" stuff is gone. For example, my "friends" and I don't chase each other around with knives anymore. This is something a sociopathic acquaintance and I used to do as adolescents to alleviate our boredom. I kid you not
The way you were talking I thought god stopped you from dumping bodies behind the pub. This is what was plaguing your conscience? Running with scissors. Who fucking cares.
UKan's Theme Song
ReplyDeletehttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9qlA2l8tWoU
That is an impressive resume, Gurl. I can tell it is real from the matter of fact way you say it-----no hyperbole, just the facts, Ma'am.
ReplyDeleteTo the people who are not living life like that right now: You are wasting time. Grab a pistol and the last of your shite savings and go buy yourself a ounce and get started. You can have and do whatever you want in life.
ReplyDeleteWhatever you want in life? Is being a drug dealer? Ha ha, why are you assuming that everyone secretly wishes they were a drug dealer? I know you see yourself as the prototype for success, but there are other options you know, depending on who you are.
There are no consequences people unless you are caught by the authorities. There's no hell except the one you make for yourself here by being bored. You should get out there and do whatever whim pleases you for the moment. That's why you don't see unhappy sociopaths. Don't believe the hype. Living a depraved life is heaven on earth.
ReplyDeleteCalm down medusa I was being facetious.
ReplyDeleteNah Ukan- thankfully it never reached that point. I did all kinds of violent stuff (beat up boyfriends, bus drivers, store clerks, acquaintances, etc.) but I never killed anyone.
ReplyDeleteWe were just stupid kids with a thrill-seeking complex who were lucky we didn't hurt ourselves.
And frankly, it doesn't plague my conscience at all. Should it? We never actually hurt anyone.
UKan, M.E. isn't all that happy a lot of the time. It's pretty clear from many of his/her posts, and also from the fact that she said s/he harbors a "very deep death wish".
ReplyDeleteWhat say you?
Anonymous UKan De Pravio said...
ReplyDeleteThere are no consequences people unless you are caught by the authorities.
Perfect words from a LOW functioning sociopath.
If you really want to know I don't believe M.E. is a sociopath. I haven't for a while.
ReplyDeleteAlterego, you sound more disassociated than psychopathic, and I'm wondering if your Jesus dream was your mind being all like, "quit fucking repressing everything already, I'm sick of this shit!"
ReplyDeleteThe mind performs apparent miracles daily without the need to bring God into the conversation.
And your leftover 'psychopathic' traits are perhaps merely stubborn entrenched habit.
she said s/he harbors a "very deep death wish".
ReplyDeleteWhich post was this?
That last time s/he commented in the comment section.
ReplyDeleteI disagree, Medusa. You should listen to some conversions when people find God. They are earth shattering for that person. If you never studied them, you would not know. I take it you are not interested, which is your right, of course. Son of Sam had one. There is a radio broadcast I could find, if you are interested. I am not pushing anything. I want you to know, just offering, if you are interested.
ReplyDeleteWhether you are Jon Roberts in how he lived his life, someone having a "religious experience," or a strong personality winning your game, it all comes down to Faith.
ReplyDeleteFaith is one part confidence, one part imagination and one part compass.
Said another way . . . Faith is arrogance, mixed with delusion with a dash of agenda.
Anyway it seems to work in which way its worded.
2:38
ReplyDeleteAlso, here.
Ha! (Faith) Anyway it seems to work no matter which way it is worded.
ReplyDeleteI take it you are not interested, which is your right, of course.
ReplyDeleteIf I wasn't interested, I wouldn't be here having this discussion.
Also, what was it that made you decide to take Son of Sam's psalm-reading enlightenment seriously? Ted Bundy pulled the same shit at the end, although instead of blaming Satanism he blamed porn.
Many things that happen in life and in the brain are earth-shattering. Such is life.
I had an 'earth-shattering' experience reading Kierkegaard once. Who's to say that my experience was less powerful than yous?
ReplyDeleteDo I have to chalk it up to Jesus or God? Or even Kierkegaard?
Funnily enough, it was a passage he wrote about faith, which I've posted here already a couple of times.
And he was a Christian, to boot.
Psychopaths can believe in God and Satan. The psychopathic serial killer Richard Ramirez was a satanist and Sam Vaknin believes in god, I think.
ReplyDeleteI think Bundy's was fake. Son of Sam's was very credible sounding to me. It was amazing and very touching, to me, anyway.
ReplyDeleteMedusa, real words spoken in English.
ReplyDeleteWas I looking for God to do a miracle, no. Just calm me down.
You could say it was the flea collar, but four people really were looking hard at the jaw and no one saw it as the problem also the result was instant.
But I don't need to have the story validated, it is what it is.
To say that I think God would care about a cat more then humans, no I don't. This was just my experience.
"Many things that happen in life and in the brain are earth-shattering. Such is life."
ReplyDeleteYes, its that simple.
Kierkegaard? Post it again, please Senorita.
Medusa, I frankly don't know if I was ever "truly" sociopathic, whatever that means. I have anti-social tendencies and a genetic predisposition to psychopathy but that in itself doesn't mean anything.(My father several years in prison for aggravated assault. I think he ripped someone's ear off. 'Nuff said)
ReplyDeleteAt 15, I was diagnosed with ODD (oppositional defiance disorder), but I manipulated my therapist and rarely told her the truth about anything. (This is how I acted with everyone at that time in my life.)
I certainly never told her about all the vandalism, dishonesty, deliberate manipulation and pervasive violence. I probably had what psychologists label "conduct disorder".
I do not think I have any form of disassociative illness, as I have never had trouble differentiating the real from the imaginary. (My dream was a very *real*, albeit wholly subjective experience, but I have always known that it was just a dream. I don't expect anyone else to imbue it with the same degree of significance that I have; it was, after all, a personal experience, just like my relationship with God.)
And unfortunately, I can never repress anything; I am too impulsive, and my temper too explosive for that. :)
"Son of Sam's was very credible sounding to me. It was amazing and very touching, to me"
ReplyDeleteSon of Sam is a con man. If he hadn't have been caught he would have continued his violence and terror. If he were released tomorrow he would drop the whole religious charade right away.
Post it, Medusa!
ReplyDeleteEvery single serial killer that has gone to prison, integrates themselves into religious programs and tries to act like "a changed man"
ReplyDeleteDisassociation doesn't necessarily mean you can't tell reality from imagination.
ReplyDeleteI meant more of a derealization/depersonalization sort of thing. Like an invisible barrier between you and the world. Or even you and your own body.
But your last comment clears things up a little.
@anon
ReplyDeleteSatanists don't believe in god, on the contrary, their philosophy has many similarities with the thoughts of Friedrich Nietzsche. Just google satanism or the church of satan.
Some jailhouse conversions are fake. I agree, but some are real, in my opinion. No one can really know, for sure, what is in another mans heart. One can surmise, at best.
ReplyDeleteBundy made a mockery of the law enforcement. He thought they were all stupid and below him. He escaped from jail twice, controlled the whole trial and manipulated countless people along the way. The guy hadn't one drop of humanity in him. A person on his defense team referred to him as "pure heartless evil" and "intellectually shallow"
ReplyDeleteDavid, I think he was looking for any excuse to kill.
ReplyDeleteHuh, I was just searching the site for the quote and noticed that M.E. did a post about it during my hiatus, though I haven't read it yet so I don't know how much his/her friend's interpretation of it differs from mine. Interesting.
ReplyDeleteI think Bundy was the epitome of a sociopath. Nobody embodied it like him.
ReplyDeleteMost people live dejectedly in worldly sorrow and joy; they are the ones who sit along the wall and do not join in the dance. The knights of infinity are dancers and possess elevation. They make the movements upward, and fall down again; and this too is no mean pastime, nor ungraceful to behold. But whenever they fall down they are not able at once to assume the posture, they vacillate an instant, and this vacillation shows that after all they are strangers in the world. This is more or less strikingly evident in proportion to the art they possess, but even the most artistic knights cannot altogether conceal this vacillation. One need not look at them when they are up in the air, but only the instant they touch or have touched the ground–then one recognizes them. But to be able to fall down in such a way that the same second it looks as if one were standing and walking, to transform the leap of life into a walk, absolutely to express the sublime in the pedestrian–that only the knight of faith can do–and this is the one and only prodigy.
ReplyDelete— Johannes de Silentio (aka Søren Kierkegaard)
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The reason this effected me so much was that it mirrored my own sentiments in a certain specific way, and I read it during a rather stressful and frustrating period of my life.
Sociopaths don't put much thought into life. They live it in the present.
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ReplyDeleteWhether you are Jon Roberts in how he lived his life, someone having a "religious experience," or a strong personality winning your game, it all comes down to Faith....Faith is arrogance, mixed with delusion with a dash of agenda.
So you think life boils down to arrogance, delusion and a agenda? Life doesn't boil down to only one thing. That's your 'faith' getting in the way of your sense soulful.
To me faith is foolish. It's you believing in something without question. Faith is synonymous with delusion and nothing else. Behind every faithful belief is a con that some devious trickster pulled. Some last for moments. Others for centuries. Christianity was started by someone in history at some point. Even taking judiasm where christianity came from there was a genisis, Abraham. A man conned a bunch of people into fanatisism in order to violently depose polytheistic religions and replace them with his one god. The one god that only happends to talk to him. The faithful are suckers ready to be thrown to the front lines at the drop of the cross.
we are our own gods
ReplyDeleteUKan, you are full of shit.
ReplyDeleteFirstly, faith is not the same thing as belief.
Secondly, you have faith in yourself, do you not?
Confidence is the manifestation of faith.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yw37AxDfs9g
ReplyDeleteno sharp objects
ReplyDeletehttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W_Y1O5h6c68&feature=related
ReplyDelete, Abraham. A man conned a bunch of people into fanatisism in order to violently depose polytheistic religions and replace them with his one god.
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LOL This should be on SNL
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xw_1LUe9HVA
ReplyDeleteCreepy. UKan has said two things I could've said myself today.
ReplyDeleteA world with filled with only Christians would be a better place? Why? I think Christianity has had enough time to prove itself, but never really got around to it. In mediaeval Europe, most wars were fought between all-Christian nations. And how would you define Christianity? If I replaced the 'normal' Christian God with, say, a giant ocelot and made Jesus a coelacanth, but left the rest of Christianity unmolested, I'd still be a Christian, and would be (compared to all the other mutations of Christianity) well in my rights to assert myself.
In fact: since the majority of Christians are taught that humans are shit, they'd argue that it's people, not religion, that's keeping the world less than Utopian.
Funny how David started quoting Nietzsche and Schopenhauer. You know, because people didn't think he could give lectures on transhumanism, and he absolutely doesn't care what those people think.
hi guys! Whats up? Anything new?
ReplyDeleteHuh, this last episode of Dexter is actually really good. He's doing all kinds of stupid shit now.
ReplyDeletetwisted. ;) Is it a fantasy?
ReplyDeleteI STILL can't bring myself to watch that show. I saw one episode, and threw in the towel. The sister's face annoys me too much...
ReplyDeletewe are our own gods
ReplyDeleteIt actually states that in the bible:
John 10:34
Jesus answered them, “Is it not written in your Law, ‘I have said you are “gods”’ ?
He's refrencing Psalm 82:6 which states the same thing:
“I said, ‘You are “gods”;
you are all sons of the Most High.’
DavidSocio by PCL-R test:
ReplyDelete1. Glib and Superficial Charm 2
2. Grandiose Self-Worth 2
3. Need for Stimulation or Proneness to Boredom 2
4. Pathological Lying 2
5. Conning and Manipulativeness 2
6. Shallow Affect 2
7. Callousness and Lack of Empathy 2
8. Lack of Remorse or Guilt 2
9. Parasitic Lifestyle or Parasitic Orientation 2
10. Poor Behavioral Controls 0
11. Promiscuous Sexual Behaviour 2
12. Early Behavioral Problems 1
13. Juvenile Delinquency 0
14. Lack of Realistic Long Term Goals 2
15. Impulsivity 0
16. Irresponsibility 2
17. Failure to Accept Responsibility for Own Actions 2
18. Many Short-term Marital Relationships 0
19. Revocation of Conditional Release 0
20. Criminal Versatility 1
Total score: 28/40
Very high score although to make it reliable other people in David's life should be consulted as well. Bordering psychopathy and definitely enough for antisocial personality disorder unless the story is a complete fabrication.
medusa, do you think dexter is a spath?
ReplyDeleteDexter is a make believe character on a TV show which was created to help alleviate boredom and form as entertainment to those that watch. Nothing more.
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ReplyDeleteUKan, you are full of shit.
Firstly, faith is not the same thing as belief.
Secondly, you have faith in yourself, do you not?
Confidence is the manifestation of faith.
You become confidant because you have proved that you are great. That has nothing to do with faith. People who have faith in themselves have nothing but hope to grasp. If faith is backing your confidence medusa then that is very telling.
Dexter comes of as schizotypal/schizoid. What with the hallucinations and all. Although I don't think the hallucinations are to be taken literally, it's a cinematic device.
ReplyDeleteBut in the end, what Piles said.
@anon 12:18
ReplyDeleteI could agree with the points you give on the checklist. What's your professional/educational background if I may ask?
@wheatley
It's funny how you still try to tease me with the credibility of my lectures.
"You become confidant because you have proved that you are great."
ReplyDeleteGive me a break Ukan, you stated that your savings are an equivalent of 6 months rent. Is that your definition of 'greatness'?
It took you an hour to think that one up, UKan?
ReplyDeleteSo before you succeeded at something, you were an insecure mess? Is that's what you are saying?
How about when you failed at not being locked up? Were you an insecure mess in prison?
Faith is not hope either, btw.
I'm gonna steal some shit from another website I just googled to clarify for you, because I am lazy:
Belief is pretty much based on the fact that you’re confident you will achieve your goals. That belief can be based on past experience, logic, or just the fact that you know somebody who achieved a similar goal.
Faith on the other hand, usually brings along with it the implication that it’s needed to achieve those goals that seem out of reach, hence hearing phrases like “taking a leap of faith” when it comes to those types of situations. In other words, that term is usually used in the context of achieving extraordinary goals.
Here are some simple examples to differentiate between the two.
The first man to run the mile in under four minutes – he had faith. The subsequent men and women who were able to match that record – they had belief.
The Wright Brothers, who built a machine which would allow man to fly in the sky - they had faith. Everyone after, who created the shuttle, helicopter, jet, etc- they had belief.
So in short, UKan, if you don't have faith, you are nothing more than a muppet.
I admit, as Ukan said, faith is based on evidence. Can't argue with that shit.
ReplyDeletelol anon, don't say 'spath'. That's a lovefraud thing, right? We don't say that here. You're showing your colours.
ReplyDeleteI find the term 'lovefraud' very funny. When I hear the word the picture of a hysteric woman crying always pops up in my head lol
ReplyDeletemedusa, this one's for u. I think i'm pissing off my roomate. I had a couple of drinks and keep interrupting her in her room. Meanwhile, she's talking to her gay friend about a bad situation she's going through with a guy. Does that make me an insensitive irritant? It's not like I didn't give her support, I bloody did. But really, when I'm merry, I'm merry, right? Does that make me bad in some way?
ReplyDeleteawwww she just came in to my room and gave me a hug, i'm assuming we're all good again. I think i'm gonna turn lesbian. Girls are just bloody awesome. :)
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ReplyDeleteIt took you an hour to think that one up, UKan?
No, it took me half a second. I don't sit around contemplating the random brain farts you call ideas medusa.
Faith is not hope either, btw.
That's exactly what faith is. Hope. The same people who have faith in things are the same one's hoping things will happen. It's the wait and see while you cross your fingers mentality people have that stagnate them. Instead of being proactive they sit around talking about what they hope the outcome will be. I would rather control the outcome.
So before you succeeded at something, you were an insecure mess? Is that's what you are saying?
Talk about skewing words. I didn't say anything close to that. Sometimes it's good to delude yourself. Sometimes it's good to fake it till you make it. Sometimes it's good to lie to yourself enough to where you believe it, but you should always leave enough rope that you can pull yourself back into reality.
Living by faith is living in a lie. People don't have faith or talk faith when something actually exists.
And if you are going to use website wisdom Medusa then here is our favorite site wikipedia:
ReplyDeleteFaith is trust, hope, and belief in the goodness, trustworthiness or reliability of a person, concept, or entity. It can also refer to beliefs that are not based on proof (e.g. faith that a child will grow up to be a good person).[1][2] Faith in religon is a belief in a transcendent reality, a religious teacher, a set of teachings or a Supreme Being. Generally speaking, it is offered as a means by which the truth of the proposition, "things will turn out well in the end," can be enjoyed in the present and secured in the future. This faith appeals to transcendent reality, or that reality which is beyond the range of normal physical experience (e.g. the future).
Lol David.
ReplyDeletey is socia so evil?
ReplyDeletei dont think about faith cuz i just do what i want. when im thirsty i drink right out of the motherfuckin carton LIKE A BOSS !
ReplyDeletehahahahaha
ReplyDeletehttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NisCkxU544c
bludgeon a 12 year old LIKE A BOSS!!
ReplyDeletemeet a giant fish and fuck his brains out
ReplyDeleteLIKE A BOSS
luv that (:
iz immature
ReplyDeleteOkay MK...
ReplyDeleteMy cousin just gave me a tip on how to make my bread pudding. I think I might try it first, because I don't want it to turn out soggy.
Use day old doughnuts from Krispy Kream... or whatever location (in your case) has the best quality.
He told me to use Maker's Mark as my bourbon of choice for the sauce. That's my favorite brand anyway.
I'll let you know how it turns out...
We just had some bread pudding. Funny you mentioned it
ReplyDeleteWhat did you think of it? There's definitely an art that goes into making it. I'm picky about the turnout.
ReplyDeleteIt was good but I think it needs more of a custard like consistency. I'm comparing it to this fine dining place we go to though. Everything they made there tastes amazing
ReplyDeleteThat's why it can't be fresh bread. It has to be day old bread. Yeah, the consistency is a very big deal.
ReplyDeleteHow did you know it was fresh bread?
ReplyDeletemmmm creamy
ReplyDeleteShe told me.
ReplyDeleteRegarding what faith is or isn't:
ReplyDeleteThe Bible's definition is fairly concise:
"...faith is confidence in what we hope for and assurance about what we do not see." -Hebrew 11:1
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zqfOaij60ss
ReplyDeletenotice the conman inmate at the end.
ReplyDeletei dont understand why he wanted to better himself and connect OR was he just saying that for show
ReplyDeletehe is faking empathy. that is what psychopaths do.
ReplyDeletehttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x93EHs627GI
ReplyDeletehttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gE32nMqh8uY
ReplyDeletei figured he was good at it.if he wasnt in jail it might have been believable.
ReplyDeleteyou fell for it, admit it. everyone gets tricked by sociopaths.
ReplyDeleteit was good lol if i met him tomorrow on the streets i wouldnt think twice
ReplyDeletejail iz difrent ther
ReplyDeleteYum Krispy Kreams, their secret is they don't cook the dough all the way through. I worked there for 4 hours and left on my lunch break.
ReplyDeleteIve noticed ppl post PCL-R test ratings...where are you finding this test? online?
ReplyDeletelol
ReplyDeleteWhy did you leave?
3 reasons really. I got off on a bad start with the manager, I didn't like wearing a hair net and the smell was gross after awhile. I just left and never came back LOL.
ReplyDeleteWhat's the worst job you've ever had?
ReplyDeleteI am pretty sure it was that one. It sucked too because that was when I was homeless so I had to steal my work pants, belt and shoes. That bitch manager had no idea what I had to go through to get there.
ReplyDeleteWhat was your worst job?
mine:
ReplyDeletecleaning out a bucket of glue. same bucket the whole week. then i quit.
bucket of glue for what Zoe? that does suck!
ReplyDeleteThe only job I ever walked out on. The Tova Salon in Beverly Hills. You have to be the biggest superficial kiss ass to ever walk planet Earth, in order to do well there.
ReplyDeleteMonica said...
ReplyDeletePeace may be attainable, whereas happiness may, always, be fleeting.
pleasure is in getting and giving. happiness is in being. it's wanting to be exactly where you are.
peace.. you don't want to move, like a catatonic ;)
You know, every time I read even her best shot at Grammar... I have to picture Captain Kerk.
ReplyDeleteit was a summer job at a factory. the supervisor who liked me was away that week. the one who covered for her didn't like me.
ReplyDeleteThat does seem like it would suck Eden, I can imagine that they were really demanding. Did the women throw a lot of temper tantrums?
ReplyDelete*Kirk
ReplyDeletedamn Eden, now i can't get the voice out of my head.
ReplyDelete@Monica
no more commas for you. cope without them
The women and the men were the same. It was a pit of snakes. Much like it is here, but with more Scelis and Davids around. They tried to put me in a corner. Show me my place in their world. So I fucked 'em over.
ReplyDeleteIt had to be said Zoe.
ReplyDeleteYeah, the snobs of LA can be a bitch to deal with. I have never meshed well with those types. I can smile and fake it every now and then if I have to, but I could not imagine dealing with it everyday at work at something like a salon where you have to hear them talk day in and day out.
ReplyDeleteI can kiss ass very well if it's my choice to do so. I won't do it because it's expected of me. I learned a great deal about myself the 6 months I lived in LA. I won't degrade myself for the sake of money, for one.
ReplyDeleteOther than working at the salon, how did you like living in CA?
ReplyDeleteI personally would like to move one day.
I hated it there. Even the ocean was ugly. I like Norther CA, but only for a visit. New York is more my taste now. Still... I've become my father in that nomadic mindset. I have to see some end in sight or I get antsy. I will stay here, till my eldest goes off to college... and then, who knows.
ReplyDeleteto make a good living for yourself, you would need to be a superficial fake kiss ass.
ReplyDeletesweetcheeks, how did you end up becoming a bum?
ReplyDeleteNorthern CA is gorgeous, I lived up there for a year. I enjoy many things about living here, but there is too many people. Just getting on the freeway is an issue or going to Walmart. I had to go to Walmart tonight and I just plow through people with my cart.
ReplyDeleteThe bad thing is because I am used to that, when I have moved or traveled before and things are slower, it's weird to me. When the cashier actually wants to talk to me, I don't know what to say. I get the "bitch" stare from them.
No you don't. You can go into business for yourself and kiss no one's ass. I make a very good living, and though I may have charmed the pants off (so to speak) a few choice people to take the position away from my former boss... it was no where near the same thing.
ReplyDeleteTo charm someone imo, is to take some small truth, and warm it up in a way that will appeal to someone on a personal and vain level. To kiss ass, is to lie in an exaggerated fashion that is beneath you, in order to get the crumbs off the plates of your superiors.
Anon
ReplyDeleteI left home so I could do what I wanted, when I wanted to do it. My Mom pissed me off, so I left.
You shop at Walmart? Ew.
ReplyDelete"I left home so I could do what I wanted, when I wanted to do it. My Mom pissed me off, so I left."
ReplyDeleteDEM BEEPERS. People piss me off too, but I don't rebel against them.
@Anon
ReplyDeleteWell then. No wonder you're speaking to us as an anon. You brave lil kiss ass you...
Exciting developments in neurology are beginning to shed more light on psychopathology. As most of you are aware, functional MRI's show that psychopaths brains are not as active as neurotypical brains in several key areas in the brain that control executive functioning. However, the new field of magnetic pulsing of the brain is showing remarkable promise for those who suffer chronic pain and depression by either suppressing or activating certain area's of the brain. There is no reason why magnetic pulsing could not activate dormant areas of the psychopaths brain.The technology is in the early stages, but initial results are showing great promise for treating a number of disorders. Currently, the permanency of these non-invasive treatments are being studied. So far there has been much success in the area's of chronic pain control and depression. Unfortunately the cost of these treatments can cost upwards of $10,000. There are magnetic pulse machines for sale online for $700 to $1000 dollars, but personally, I would be weary of experimenting on people's brains w/o knowing where to direct the pulses, how many and for what duration.
ReplyDeleteOn another note - here is a link to the quintessential scripture for those who are living with or work with a sociopath. http://www.esvbible.org/Psalm+37/
Alterego, I get what you are saying. Continue to practice connecting to the Holy Spirit. Renewing the mind takes time. Babies are not functioning adults when they are "born" - you are a babe in God. He is faithful and will not forsake you. We all have our demons, weaknesses, character flaws - whatever you want to call them. Keep your mind on good, beautiful, pure and lovely things as much as you can and your brain will begin to respond.
Trust me Anon, I only go there when I have too. I dread Walmart, but it is a one stop shop and when I don't have time to stop at different stores, then Walmart is it.
ReplyDeleteLol. Stop letting your emotions rule you.
ReplyDeleteI will tell you a little something about emotions... every single person who comes here as an anon, is ruled by them.
ReplyDeleteIt wasn't my emotions anon, I was always grounded. My Mom installed a security system and would come home when I got back from school to arm it and then leave so I couldn't leave the house. She would take the cable to the T.V., phones, stereos, I mean everything. I was grounded for months at a time so I finally said, "Fuck it" and never came back.
ReplyDeleteYet another extremely overblown emotional statement. I bet people look at you like your nuts.
ReplyDeleteYou deserved it though. For being butt ugly.
ReplyDeleteOk, you can count me being pissed off as an emotion, but it wasn't over one fight. I don't regret it at all either.
ReplyDeleteAnd I bet people don't look at You at all. lol
ReplyDeleteYou keep setting yourself up so well! How on earth did you learn to do that?
So what about the East Coast, Sweets? Where would you like to go?
ReplyDeleteYa know anon, it is what it is. Sure I was frustrated, but I was always headstrong especially as a kid. Rebellious, yes I was very much so. I don't like being told what to do :P
ReplyDeleteWhy didn't you get some revenge on your bitchy mom before you left, like rob her or something? Or was it on impulse? I can't imagine someone doing something like that to me without getting some revenge. Maybe that's why things like that don't happen me.
ReplyDeleteMADE YOU LOOK
ReplyDeleteI am open to that Eden, I just can't live in the Mid West.
ReplyDeleteAnon, making my Mom feel worthless was the best revenge. I showed her that she was nothing to me and that I didn't need her. I busted her bubble big time when I left.