This is my literally my
nightmare mob mentality scenario:
More than 300 people were killed and hundreds more were injured in a stampede at an annual water festival in Cambodia.
Witnesses here in the capital said the stampede began Monday night when people panicked in a dense crowd on a small island close to the shore of the Bassac River.
Hundreds of people tried to escape over a short suspension bridge. Many died of suffocation, were crushed underfoot, or were electrocuted by loose wires. Many drowned when they leapt from the suspension bridge into the water.
There was no confirmation of the cause of the stampede, but Information Minister Khieu Kanharith said it began when what he said were one million people became “scared of something.”
I was just thinking today how poorly equipped evolution has made us. We tense up in an automobile accident and die while the relaxed drunk driver walks away. Fear
spreads through a crowd, more dangerous than the most deadly of plagues. We kill ourselves a little every day because we are so poorly equipped to function in this environment. Humanity is pathetic.
sounds like those people saw something really scary...maybe they saw something they just werent able to understand. i mean in that part of the world i wouldnt be surprised to find creatures that we dont think are real. Or mayber someone started the stampede for fun, i wouldve.
ReplyDeleteMmm. Glad to see the misanthropy is coming to the fore.
ReplyDeleteAnd, as always, good to relax. I walked away from a fairly nasty car accident because I didn't tense up.
I heard that the cause of the stampede, was a small number of people shouting that the bridge was about to collapse and that a few people had been electrocuted. If I was on that bridge, I dont think I would've panicked or tensed up at all(not that it would have made a difference). I don't usually panick when I'm in danger. I can definitely hold my nerve better than the average person, but its not always so much a lack of fear as it is a lack of awareness, that allows me to keep my cool. I'm usually completely oblivious to the dangers which I am sometimes confronted with.
ReplyDeleteThese people wen't to pieces over nothing. They could have walked of that bridge within matter of minutes, without anyone being killed or injured. It is pathetic.
Couldn't agree with all of you more. People suck.
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ReplyDeleteto UKan:
ReplyDeleteDude it's Mike from Romania again. If you around here i think you should know that tonight i am meeting with the guy we were talking about yesterday. I am going out with him. My reputation didn't have much to suffer from this guy, just my pride so i don't have anything that would bring back my reputation to do to him. Maybe who knows, i come out above him in tonight's meeting, That would be satisfying ... I will fill you up on the details once i come back.
And, as always, good to relax. I walked away from a fairly nasty car accident because I didn't tense up.
ReplyDeleteIn an EMT class, I was told that this is the reason that drunk drivers are usually in better shape than others in an accident.
Good luck Mike. I couldn't lay my pride down, but that's me. Hopefully you find something face saving to compromise on. Otherwise you need to focus on how you will lay down a trap to teach that guy a lesson.
ReplyDeleteI always have at least a knife on me. I have always believed that if a crowd wants to try to stampede I will start stabbing everyone around me. For my own protection.
As for the article today: No Respect...
ReplyDeleteShould I ask the resident posters if I should start respecting humanity and their rights as of now?
I can't prevent myself from realizing that I keep having to say "They're all psychopaths", and now even the skeptics here are forced to acknowledge this as fact.
I wonder how many innocent women were trampled, hm? Enjoy your coffee, I know I will so why shouldn't you?
People can't accept that humans are still animals. If this story isn't proof of that, I don't know what is.
DeleteCan YOU empathize with animals?
I chuckled as I read this story, and I don't know how anyone could do any differently. This isn't sad, it's pathetic. Absolutely fucking pathetic.
You're hilarious, Anon.
ReplyDeleteYes, let's worry about those innocent women, not the children or men. Because women are special, are they not?
Something I've never embraced. Sure, they might be physiologically and psychologically different, but they aren't a protected class. We're all humans.
Hundred being killed an injured after crowding on a bridge? That is pretty funny, in a grim way. Darwinism in motion. It's like going out on the lake after a fresh ice and playing tackle football. They were asking for it.
I'm a bit strange when it comes to fear.
ReplyDeleteIt really excites me, sometimes arouses. Yet, I usually avoid situations that induce fear.
List of mass panics or stampedes that occurred at public events.
ReplyDeleteIt's me, back again. I met up with the guy, went and had a juice with him and we he just said goodbye i punched him. I punched him a couple of times. I told him, this is for the 3 punches you took at me while i was a child. I fucking beat him up.
ReplyDeleteNice one Mike.
ReplyDeleteAh, and you humor me by understanding my direction Notable. You're not predisposed to relate to me, are you? lol.
ReplyDeleteIt doesn't feel that much of a relief. I knew it would be this way. I feel nothing. Everything is back to normal, it's just that now i have to watch my back around here. Don't get me wrong, i am glad that i managed to do it. I was looking for a long time for something like this to do. But now that i did it i don't feel much relief. My other problems are still there. Hope i never see him again. He just sent me a message mocking me saying that i didn't at least learn to punch in all these years, but i know i punched him good. My hand hurts, it might be broken a bit. Anyway, i still feel the urge to do something more than that. Too bad it's not permitted. Got to get myself a knife. Fucking asshole, he even admitted that he manipulated me while i was a child. I wish i could've cut him up.
ReplyDelete@Romanian Mike: I loathe to agree with UKan in terms of violence, but I agree, glass to face would have been the proper solution here after a beating. It's too late now, though. He already knows you won't be civil.
ReplyDeleteNo matter what you do, if you don't kill the person or permanently maim them, they can always mock you for what you've done. At least with a scar that can't be hidden, everyone would know that you got back at him.
Don't take his insult about punching like a weakling seriously. He just doesn't have any other way to get back at you.
I'd also be wary about carrying a knife, unless you already know how to use one. You can really mess yourself up in a struggle and possibly get killed. I'd recommend a sap instead. They're small and get the job done.
@Anon: Couldn't tell if you were being sarcastic or not. "~" is this website's commenter proclaimed mark for sarcasm.
@ Notable :
ReplyDeleteHow come i don't figure out things like these, that that message is just something he does cause he can't get me another way. I just took it as a mock. I can't feel the intentions behind a man's actions. I have no kind of social intelligence. How do you understand that well what happens around you. I couldn't figure that out by myself. I only take the clearly apparent reason from an action, nothing subtle. I don't get subtle.
Also i don't really understand consequences.
ReplyDeleteMike I am sincerely proud of you. You shouldn't feel nothing. You should feel proud. You are vindicated. He may look for retribution, but that comes with the territory when you are amazing. If you don't have enemies hunting you, then you are not where you need to be in life. Don't let up until his will is crushed. Do what it takes. Remember that if you don't crush his spirit, then he will keep coming.
ReplyDeleteYears of experience, Mike.
ReplyDeleteThere is one, very simple aspect that you need to understand in life. Everyone is selfish. Even the most bleeding-heart empath.
You physically hurt him. You also hurt his pride by besting him. You weren't physically nearby. He felt the need to get back at you. Saying you are weak is pretty much the only way he could do that, so that's what he did. He also didn't threaten you, which means that he tried to play it off as something so pathetic that it didn't warrant revenge.
Don't think for a second that he won't try to get it if he had the opportunity to. If not for revenge, to humiliate you, again.
I assume people are self-serving. I'm almost always right. When I'm not, it's usually for the better.
You didn't scare him. All you did was let him know that whatever friendly bond that you could have salvaged is now gone. Maybe you don't feel like you accomplished something, because in hindsight, you didn't. You left with sore hands and petty revenge.
And yes, as UKan said, if you want him to pay, you need to crush his spirit, not his face.
ReplyDeleteWhen you cause someone physical pain you have to be sure it stays with him for long enough till he cools down. That's how you stop them from retribution whether that means him snitching or coming back on you violently. You got even, that's the first step. In your mind you have a small win. Now your even. Its now time to get ahead. He needs to beg for mercy or this is not over. Wait till he's vulnerable and strike. This time make him understand.
ReplyDeleteAnd do remember the glass.
ReplyDeleteWrap some cloth on it so you can get a good grip and not cut yourself
ReplyDeleteDo you prefer denim or a shop rag, UKan?
ReplyDeleteInciting young kids to do violence? Nice M.E. your blog has reached a new low.
ReplyDeleteNotable: That's because it wasn't scarcasm, it was meant. It is funny though, I usually don't have a problem interpreting it. I suppose it's just experience. When I was younger though... wooo.
ReplyDeleteCongratulations Mr. M.E., for the best post ever.
ReplyDeleteHow is ME inciting anything? All he said is that pathetic humans are pathetic.
ReplyDeleteAs far as what Romanian Mike and UKan are conducting, that's not on M.E.
Congratulations to YOU, Anonymous, for reading every despicable word and awaiting every response with baited breath!!!
ReplyDeleteMike. If he comes back for a revenge attack, your going to have hurt him badly to make sure that he gets the message. Don't use glass or I knife though. 1 because this could lead to a lengthly prison sentance and 2 because beating someone to pulp with bare hands is so much more satisfiying, I mean it'll really make you feel like an alpha male, if that makes sense.
ReplyDeleteYes, because nearly beating someone to death and breaking your hands is so much smarter than giving them something to remember your cruelty by on their pretty little faces.~
ReplyDeleteWho said their face was pretty? They all have pretty faces... don't they...
ReplyDeleteWell, it is smarter. As I said it'll almost definitely lead to less jailtime if your caught. Your hands wont break if you just learn to grip your fists properly and not only go for the face (shots to the liver and celiac plexus really seem to fuck people up). Besides, it's not as though you have to punch them all day long, once you've floored them you can bring you feet into play. If you start off with a hard kick to the nuts it'll pretty much be over before it even began. You can do whatever you like to them after that.
ReplyDeleteWhy are you selling bullshit, M.E.?
ReplyDeleteM.E.:"I was just thinking today how poorly equipped evolution has made us."
Uh-huh. . .
M.E.:"We tense up in an automobile accident and die while the relaxed drunk driver walks away."
And this is all because evolutionzz hasn't equipped us!! ZOMG!!!
Uh, let's be honest. Evolution isn't a magical skydaddy. Evolution is a very gradual process. Automobiles have not been around long enough for us to evolve so that we, naturally, are more safe within them. This is akin to giving a 6 year old a college algebra problem and then saying, "ST00pid 6 year old! You can't solve a College Algebra problem!!!"
M.E.: "Fear spreads through a crowd, more dangerous than the most deadly of plagues."
I'm really sure that evolution is not a sentient being that was capable of knowing and foreseeing how to cope with our extreme population increase over time. Again, 6 year old can't solve a College Algebra problem. (Technically it's more akin to getting mad at a rock for not being able to comprehend Aristotle's Politics and make a government system based on the fundamentals of it.)
M.E.:"We kill ourselves a little every day because we are so poorly equipped to function in this environment. Humanity is pathetic."
WHERE IS YOUR INTELLECT, M.E
WHERE
Are you taking on a new shade of misanthropy that blinds your views?
This is the worst of all the statements you've made. We "die a little everyday" because we're not indefinite beings. Life has not existed long enough for (perhaps) the most complex organism (humans) to evolve into a stage of indefinitance.
Not only that, but... Come on. Do you seriously think that, as complex as every human being is, we'd have a way for every single cell to live on indefinitely? That's the most absurd thing ever.
I won't go into too much depth with this, but there's hundreds, if not thousands, of different types of cells. Now, think about that for a minute. Each one of those types of cells has to develop its own unique indefinitance. Do you now see how mathematically improbable that is?
All in all, this post was the most idiotic one I've seen. If you can shed some light on this, M.E., PMS, Notable, or anyone in general, please do.
P.S. Yes, I know that there is probably at least one 6 year old who can solve College Algebra. But let's assume that I'm referring to an average one, for sake of analogy.
Why are you selling bullshit, M.E.?
ReplyDeleteM.E.:"I was just thinking today how poorly equipped evolution has made us."
Uh-huh. . .
M.E.:"We tense up in an automobile accident and die while the relaxed drunk driver walks away."
And this is all because evolutionzz hasn't equipped us!! ZOMG!!!
Uh, let's be honest. Evolution isn't a magical skydaddy. Evolution is a very gradual process. Automobiles have not been around long enough for us to evolve so that we, naturally, are more safe within them. This is akin to giving a 6 year old a college algebra problem and then saying, "ST00pid 6 year old! You can't solve a college algebra problem!!!"
M.E.: "Fear spreads through a crowd, more dangerous than the most deadly of plagues."
I'm really sure that evolution is not a sentient being that was capable of knowing and foreseeing how to cope with our extreme population increase over time. Again, 6 year old can't solve a College Algebra problem. (Technically it's more akin to getting mad at a rock for not being able to comprehend Aristotle's Politics and make a government system based on the fundamentals of it.)
. . .
Mike, I think you were influenced or manipulated to go back after this guy for revenge and it really wasn"t what you thought you should do. You trusted others who were not going to be affected by what you did.
ReplyDeleteThe guy sent you a message maybe you should send him one that your now even atleast his responce will give you an idea of what he's thinking. Even if you are going to have another confrontation.
Your going to end up in jail or you could have a knife and he could bring a gun.
Just think for yourself.
. . .
ReplyDeleteM.E.:"We kill ourselves a little every day because we are so poorly equipped to function in this environment. Humanity is pathetic."
WHERE IS YOUR INTELLECT, M.E
WHERE
Are you taking on a new shade of misanthropy that blinds your views?
This is the worst of all the statements you've made. We "die a little everyday" because we're not indefinite beings. Life has not existed long enough for (perhaps) the most complex organism (humans) to evolve into a stage of indefinitance.
Not only that, but... Come on. Do you seriously think that, as complex as every human being is, we'd have a way for every single cell to live on indefinitely? That's the most absurd thing ever.
I won't go into too much depth with this, but there's hundreds, if not thousands, of different types of cells. Now, think about that for a minute. Each one of those types of cells has to develop its own unique indefinitance. Do you now see how mathematically improbable that is?
All in all, this post was the most idiotic one I've seen. If you should shed some light on this, M.E., PMS, Notable, or anyone in general, please do.
P.S. Yes, I know that there is probably at least one 6 year old who can solve College Algebra. But let's assume that I'm referring to an average one, for sake of analogy.
Ugh.
ReplyDeleteTriple post failure.
Just read the first comment.
i just saw the photos. dying like that must pretty ghastly.
ReplyDeletethe above
ReplyDeleteI ask for forgiveness in advance as I totally interrupt the flow of the current discourse.
ReplyDeleteBut I accidentally found my way here and now I'm wondering:
Once you've allowed a sociopath to hurt you....how do you unbreak yourself? is there a way?
Once you've allowed a sociopath to hurt you....how do you unbreak yourself? is there a way?
ReplyDeleteSame way if you replace the word "sociopath" with "person."
Are you still with him?
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ReplyDeletedoes sexism offend you, PS?
ReplyDeleteNo, i just didn't like the assumption. Then I went and read the blog attached to that quote, and the data supports it. Complaint retracted.
ReplyDeletenow why did you have delete your post, PS, now it looks like I'm talking to myself. :|
ReplyDeleteYou'll never have to talk to yourself while I'm around, no one. <3
ReplyDeleteto Truthful Whore
ReplyDeletethere's not much i can say but i'll try. i think the fact that you are asking this question means that you are not totally broken, because you are still fighting. and from that you can survive and make the best choices for yourself from now on.
another thing i will say is that if you put trust in someone else to save you in life, prepare to lose yourself down a road you may never return from.
trust in yourself only. what is the most important thing in your life? live for that. that is all we have.
without pain, you can't grow. see it as wisdom, it deepens your knowledge of how to protect yourself in life, in every way possible.
sorry, i don't know what else to say without it sounding like hollow cliche. but, you asked, and that's all i can give.
I don't understand what people mean when they say that they've been hurt. the only type of pain that I understand is physical. I find it very hard to grasp, that most people are capable of feeling long lasting psychic or emotional pain that seriously effects them.
ReplyDeleteMisanthrope ^
ReplyDeletealso, if you haven't already, consider seeing a therapist. they can be wonderful to talk to and it can be very revealing.
ReplyDeleteto Truthful Whore.
ReplyDeletei don't know where you've gone but i hope you will read this.
if you love yourself then you'll never let anyone hurt you. no one will be able to get through your invisible shield.
you can create that shield. everyone is a little bit broken, that is what life is about.
and please don't call yourself 'Truthful Whore,' as you are not an object just for other people's satisfaction. You are a woman, you give and you must take too.
No need to impugn the worth of one of the oldest and noblest of professions, notme.
ReplyDeleteTruthful Whore,
ReplyDeleteYour name Truthful Whore is something like White Shit, or Serenity Garbage, or Dreamy Alzheimer. I mean, did your socio call you that or you choose that for yourself. If yo chose, who broke you is you not the socio. Why did you wait to the point of being broken? Ask yourself what held you in shit that long and focus on changing that before the next socio shows up. .
notme, this is really funny. guess who murflu is and read the reference to the whore name by bith murflu and notme w/o seeing each other's remarks!
ReplyDeletei don't get it.
ReplyDeleteoh, well. just a reference to two birds thinking alike, that's all.
ReplyDeleteAs for constant name change I like typing these verification words twice. In their absolute and steady change they remain perfect as an identifier. Isn't that amazing?
yes no one. it's you. speaking of names, how weird that we have such similar existentialist names and yet we are so very different? or are we?~
ReplyDeletei get it. wow that's cutting.~ but then, we must be whores too, right?
ReplyDeleteok, sorry, this comes across spooky. let's not worry about this.
ReplyDeleteoh i'm worried. have you had a test done recently? i'm clear.
ReplyDeleteHmm...
ReplyDeleteI can't decide who's more correct today. Myself. Or Ammy.
ReplyDeletedescent into mockery. really not what i had envisaged. no one you are a bad bad influence.
ReplyDeleteAmmy is not here. what are you on?
Seems the need to go back on your meds, Holiday's over.
ReplyDeletebtw i'd like you to address me by my new name, 'aspie2.'~
ReplyDeletethat'll get the gaggle riled up.
hey this i know!
ReplyDeleteWant some coffee, sorry I'm gaggling.
ReplyDeletemy kettle's broken.
ReplyDeletei'm bored as hell. my days of celibacy are done.
talking of which, where is truthful whore?
I want my new name to be "shit flinging monkey"
ReplyDeletelol.
ReplyDeleteyes no one. it's you. speaking of names, how weird that we have such similar existentialist names and yet we are so very different? or are we?~
ReplyDeletewhoever those random names are, they are not me.
pull the other one you shit flinger.
ReplyDeletenot me is the shit.
ReplyDeletecute.
ReplyDeleteGoodnight all. Let the shenanigans commence.
Totally off topic... I'm with some relatives and have camped out in the basement with two teenage girls who are engaged in a continual loop of a really unfortunate show called "The Vampire Diaries." I read some of the books that these were based on in the early 90's, which I swear were even worse than the show.
ReplyDeleteAnyway, the main competitor for lead male is the "bad" vampire, Damon, and I swear the writers printed out the PCL-R or googled sociopath qualities, and decided to make sentences out of what they found. For every scene.
"After all you have done, how can you be so glib?"
"You confuse me for someone with remorse."
"Why did you do it?" "I was bored"
"I liked you hating everyone.""I still do, I just love that they love me."
"Damon gets what he wants, no matter who he hurts in the process."
"I could rip your heart out and not think twice about it."
(sarcastically)"Consider this psychopath's feelings hurt"
etc, etc, etc. I just thought it was funny and felt like telling someone.
Wow, not me. You're a wellspring, bursting with feel-good nonsense that accomplishes nothing. Maybe that's why all these horrid self-help books sell so well. Everyone's dying to eat a giant pile of shit to answer their questions without even analyzing the perspective.
ReplyDelete@The person hurt by a sociopath: You want to know how to rebound? To, not be hurt anymore? Find yourself a really stupid, horny (insert gender you're attracted to*. Play the victim of a horrible, abusive relationship. Cry. Ask for comfort. Have lots and lots of feel-good sex. Forget about the sociopath. Then dump or keep said sack of bodily fluids.
In all seriousness, a sociopath hurting you isn't much different than anyone else. They probably knew how to press your buttons harder than most, but get past it. Don't talk to them anymore. Don't let them back in. They may in fact have good intentions, but it will just open old wounds as they play in your new puddles of emotional blood.
God, that's fun.
The only time you need to especially worry about a sociopath in terms of a relationship over any ordinary person is if you find that they have a pile of human skulls in the attic.
Oh, and the rant about the vampire show was mine.
ReplyDeletei don't read self-help books.
ReplyDeleteand i don't see how what i said is in conflict with what you have said.
we just express ourselves differently, clearly.
jeez.
Pythias - that was funny,
'how can you be so glib?'
Trust yourself. Yes, because clearly everyone is capable of making great decisions so long as it comes from their gut.~
ReplyDeleteLove yourself and others won'r harm you? What? Are you kidding me? May as well pray to Jesus that you have a protective force-field around your car when you drive and ask the Easter Bunny for Cadberry Eggs in the middle of winter.
Everyone is an object of someone's satisfaction, they just don't typically do this consciously. If you don't know that, you're more blind than I've given you credit for in the past.
Your advice sounds like regurgitated crap that has been spoon-fed to this generation.
My word verification is "granies". I'm sure your grandmother would scold you for such terrible advice. I hope some cane-slapping action would occur too. From the grave, doubly funny.
@Pythias: I've heard about that show. I was vaguely interested. I enjoy True Blood for the camp, but something just seemed too Twilight-esque from the posters I saw for it, so I avoided it.
ReplyDeleteMy condolences for your brain cells.
trusting yourself and loving yourself mean listening to yourself. that is all it means. i do that and have no problems with the judgments i have made in my life. maybe i give people too much credit that they are capable of the same, that's what you are saying, and i don't wholly disagree.
ReplyDeletein which case, let's just spoon-feed people, right? that's what you are also suggesting, rather than teaching people how to think and how to use their own instincts to get themselves what they need.
'Love yourself and others won't harm you?'
precisely, what better way to stay out of trouble than to care for your own well-being?
'Everyone is an object of someone's satisfaction, they just don't typically do this consciously. If you don't know that, you're more blind than I've given you credit for in the past'
i meant it's a give and take, and i used the words 'not just' for someone else's satisfaction. i was talking in language that partly refers to her profession.
no need to be dismissive. my advice was as practical as yours. only i don't view people as cardboard cut-outs devoid of emotional depth. some people have depth, which clearly she does otherwise she wouldn't be feeling broken as she said.
we approach things from opposite directions but that does not make my approach meaningless and pointless.
there is no harm in having both approaches.
your self-confidence crosses the line to silly arrogance here.
i don't actually like giving advice. in real life, my advice would be similar to yours here, brash and to the point. but since i don't know this woman, how can i?
Nice try.
ReplyDeletetrusting yourself and loving yourself mean listening to yourself. that is all it means.
Listening to yourself means listening to yourself. It doesn't mean following your hunch blindly. People don't need to be spoon fed, but they don't need the illusion that they always know best.
'Love yourself and others won't harm you?'
precisely, what better way to stay out of trouble than to care for your own well-being?
From Wiki: "Love is the emotion of strong affection and personal attachment.[1] In philosophical context, love is a virtue representing all of human kindness, compassion, and affection."
I'm starting to see a pattern here...
only i don't view people as cardboard cut-outs devoid of emotional depth.
You couldn't be farther from wrong. I count on people being emotional and having some level of depth. It doesn't make them any less predictable or human.
we approach things from opposite directions but that does not make my approach meaningless and pointless.
From opposite ends, eh? Is there some magical, empathetic pedestal that you sit on, above us emotionally stunted folks, casting down your divine, emotional judgement and advice?
Perhaps your crime is not bad advice. It's bad synonyms. Get a thesaurus.
i don't actually like giving advice.
Maybe you should stick with your gut on this one.~
oh notable, you are the one who puts himself on a pedestal, can't you see that?
ReplyDeleteyou are the one who attacked my advice, i never did that with you.
'i don't actually like giving advice.'
yes, my open admission that i shy away from dictating to others how to live their life is what, an admission of weakness? if so, so be it. maybe you should take a page out of my book and stop seeing your view as the only viable one.
people can come to the same place from different roads. duh. stop nit-picking.
if you deem my advice too wishy-washy for your liking, then sue me.
i shall refrain next time so not to offend your delicate sensibilities.
now get to bed.~
oh notable, you are the one who puts himself on a pedestal, can't you see that?
ReplyDeleteMy ego demands. Oh, and I am right. So there. Hahaha.
You can attack my advice any time you wish to, sweetie. You see, my advice is formed from observation and experience, not pulled out of thin air or tired, repeated quotes. If you happen to have advice that sharply contrasts with mine, then I'll be willing to take a peak at your perspective to see if I'm wrong. I've no qualms about changing my view if you're actually right. To be wrong for the sake of not wanting to change is irrational.
Your advice isn't wishy-washy, it needs a synonym make-over. Hell, you're at Sociopath World. If you're going to give advice using words tied to classic emotions and concepts we don't often embrace, at least make sure you're using the right ones.
Is that an offer, notme?~
Wow. Either NotAble finally grew a spine or he's on the rag.~
ReplyDeleteThen again, you seem to be turning into more of a funny background character than a real person. Isn't it sad, Sacchin?
'You see, my advice is formed from observation and experience, not pulled out of thin air or tired, repeated quotes.'
ReplyDeleteand as hard as it may be for you to believe, my advice is based on my experiences. i make a point of not giving advice where i lack experience, cos that would be silly.
'tired, repeated quotes.'
i don't pretend my experience and use of language is entirely original, but it's sincere. my language is not rehashed from somewhere else unless i believe it to be accurate in some appropriate context.
to you, it sounds cliched, hell, even to me it does, but that's not my fault, i'm just human and there's only so many ways to verbalise a common internal experience and still manage to communicate it coherently. And cliches are cliches for a reason, they are recognisable and people latch onto familiar phrases. they resonate easily.
'Your advice isn't wishy-washy, it needs a synonym make-over. Hell, you're at Sociopath World. If you're going to give advice using words tied to classic emotions and concepts we don't often embrace, at least make sure you're using the right ones.'
yes, i understand where problems can occur. something like,
'trusting yourself and loving yourself mean listening to yourself. that is all it means'
is full of meaning to me. but to you, it sounds illogical? ok, i see. we should coin a term for that, 'emotional hopping.' i may do that a lot.
i will try harder...i give myself a B for effort.
'To be wrong for the sake of not wanting to change is irrational'
agreed TNP.
consider me well and truly told.~
"Something something something, I'm wrong, something something."
ReplyDeleteI completely agree. I'm glad you saw it my way.
Now how about that offer from before?
i didn't ever say i was wrong. i was acquiescing like a sweet little lady to shut you up.~
ReplyDeletewhat offer? you want me to disagree with something for the sake of it? how about this. i disagree with your existence.
argue with that!~
no seriously, what offer?
i don't disagree with your 'advice' if that's what you are refering to, so i don't know what you are asking for.
now get to bed.~
ReplyDeleteThat one. He wants to interfere with you... sexually.
well i was hoping, but he missed the boat.
ReplyDeleteThere was a boat with sexual interference available?
ReplyDeleteI need a new travel agent.
Don't worry love, I'll catch the next one.
and there i was thinking you were turned on by anal arguing...
ReplyDeletei thought you wanted more.
but clearly, you're still just a man, and i won't hold that against you. anytime baby!~
Turned on by arguing?
ReplyDeleteI have some strange turn ons. Arguing isn't one of them.
For example, I really like...
Haaa... Maybe for another day.
Hey, so whats the next mission quest for Kid Romania, is he gonna hammer the brains and drown the children of the guy who crushed his cred?
ReplyDelete...all that pumping up drill sargening seems to have even driven the usually sedate notablepath into attack mode ;-)
Is this the future of interactive entertainment? What shall we call it? Pantheon of the PDs?
Notme, while I enjoy the color you bring to the blog I must disagree. Listening to yourself and trusting yourself have absolutely nothing to do with loving yourself.
ReplyDeleteIf I listen to myself and take advantage of someone, if I trust myself and my ability to do so, does that mean I should love myself for it?
Let me allow you a glimpse of my gathering real quick...
When I notice someone in love with themselves for petty reasons (or any, though the reasons usually are meaningless), that is a mark of weakness practically begging for a challenge.
Now, my weakness: I believed myself to be unique in my younger years such that I would have not seen a few residents here coming in the slightest.
I only ask you, in what areas does your blindness lie?
Truthful whore when you have fallen out with a sociopath you have to pick up the pieces that you were dependant on him with. Self esteem was one of them I'm sure. You have to learn how to be more independant mentally. That means you need to deal with your issues. Keep running from yourself and you will leave yourself vulnerable to be manipulated.
ReplyDeleteNotme arguing with Not Able is weak. Getting defensive in a arguement with him is pathetic.
You people are so focused on to yourselves you fail to see the big picture. You should be like Mike and go out there and apply yourselves.
Anon what the fuck are you babbling about. This is yet more mental masterbation. Complete rubbish. What area does my blindness lie? Try writing more horse shit like that and ill be completely blind.
I can't imagine panicking or what it must be like to panic. I don't understand why people panic, but I observe that they do.
ReplyDeleteI was in a panicking crowd once at Wimbledon Stadium. I had to use a lot of my strength and patience in order to worm my way out of the situation. Even as I did so I wondered why people around were panicking.
Ah well...
There you go making me happy again UKan :)
ReplyDeleteThanks notme.
ReplyDeleteThanks TNP for the condolences.
"You people are so focused on to yourselves you fail to see the big picture. You should be like Mike and go out there and apply yourselves."
ReplyDeleteDoesn't that tell you something? That only mike-minded people think alike whilst most people are still in denial because they haven't had the epiphany of using knives, hammers and torches on people and property to correct any perceived or real injustice? Maybe thats why they'd rather build all those prisons instead to house their torments.
As I said, normally I don't agree with UKan when it comes to using physical force, but in the context of Mike's situation, it makes sense.
ReplyDelete"Getting defensive in a arguement with him is pathetic."
Coming from the person who does this All the time, I'd have to agree that you are, sweetie-kins.
I wonder if people are consciously aware how predictable they are?
ReplyDeleteI doubt it, Anon.
ReplyDeleteSpeaking of predictability. Interesting (though shouldn't be surprising) the detached, calm and even "they deserved it ~ like" attitudes regarding 350 Cambodian lives lost all round. What happened to the precious non-conformity?
ReplyDeleteA small extra note to Truthful Whore:
ReplyDeleteTo be able to really advice you one will have to know in detail how it all came about. Details such as what attracted you to him to begin with, how your relationship evolved - how he behaved from start to finish, the subtle ways in which he changed, the situations in which they occurred, and your reactions, etc. etc. ... You attempts to deal with being hurt, and so on. I would also need to know more about you as a person, your likes and dislikes, your beliefs (you're a Christian, but there's more to it than that).
You see how it's not a simple thing, no one answer is the final solution for everybody.
UKan's advice is probably the closest we can get to an answer that covers everybody.
Notme's suggestion may be useful if you have the same way of thinking as her advice provides.
NotaPath's advice is most likely not useful for the majority of "victims", but it's a suggestion you might consider if you were not a Christian and not a parent.
Writing is good therapy as well, I advice you to keep doing that. And you're not so bad at it, you know!? ;-)
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Anon 7:42 PM
You can stop wondering right now: People are normally NOT aware in the least about their predictability.
Whether or not they're predictable is not something they think about per se, except perhaps in the context of how many times they've said the same joke to people belonging to the same social circle.
People's predictability matters to psychiatrists, forensic psychologists, neuro-psychology researchers, and others in these lines of work.
It matters to Law Enforcement and other Authorities.
It matters to intelligent individuals who are not neuro-typical and who have an overall interest in controlling their environment so as to be and achieve the best they can be and achieve.
And it matters ... of course ... to Sociopaths.
But that's about it.
What is defensive Not Able? How bout completely flipping your opinion to mine every chance you get? When you first commented you were the Martin Luther King of sociopathy. Only dumb sociopaths were violent criminals remember? Now everytime I pull out my dick your there trying to jump on it. Don't be surprised if I throw you off. I don't like fucking someone when they are so confused.
ReplyDeleteEdit: Anon 7:42 AM (not PM).
ReplyDelete.....
GagReflex wrote:
Speaking of predictability. Interesting ... the detached, calm and even "they deserved it ~ like" attitudes regarding 350 Cambodian lives lost all round.
I get the one about predictability, but I don't see any "they deserved it ~ like" attitudes.
That said, I understand the detachment, but it's not specific for sociopaths. You may see more "How horrible!" statements in an 'empath' forum, but this blog is meant for discussions that pertain to sociopathy. That's why (I think) even the empaths among the commenting readers haven't written anything of this sort.
Personally I have to admit I didn't even think of "It's horrible!". So you see, it's not that uncommon.
Other than that, in my experience sociopaths can be just as predictable as neuro-typical people. I'm not an expert, but due to how and where I've lived a lot of my life I have met more sociopaths than the average person.
I can also attest to them being very different in between (hence my applying to the 'spectrum' theory), but they're still generally just as predictable as normal sheep.
It's not so much about whether or not someone is a sociopath, it's about intelligence and how you use your intellect.
Ukan
ReplyDelete'Notme arguing with Not Able is weak. Getting defensive in a arguement with him is pathetic.
You people are so focused on to yourselves you fail to see the big picture. You should be like Mike and go out there and apply yourselves.'
lol, what makes you think that i or anyone actually takes anything seriously here?
i argue for my own amusement.
lighten up Ukan.
Oh, make that: Normal People (not 'normal sheep' ... SO sorry).
ReplyDeleteOther than that, in my experience sociopaths can be just as predictable as neuro-typical people.
ReplyDeleteI was thinking though, what about schizophrenics and manic-depressives? I've found them to be rather unpredictable compared to most, which is partly why most of my friends have some sort of mental illness; they're much more interesting than the "normal" stock.
i forgot to mention that most the time i'm tanked up by some god-awful mind-altering drug. so, really, taking me seriously is a mistake. hehe.
ReplyDeleteActually, the video I saw of rescuers, trying to pull people out was horrible. People were trapped just as if heavy trees had fallen on them.
ReplyDeleteWe are all so de-sensitized by media anymore...
Ukan
ReplyDelete'Notme arguing with Not Able is weak. Getting defensive in a arguement with him is pathetic.'
oh and for the sake of clarity which you people respect, i enjoy being weak. defence is another form of offence. as someone once said, peace is another form of war.
By way of illustration,
Fuck you Ukan!~
Actually the old adage goes:
ReplyDelete"The best defense is a good offense"
And who on earth said "Peace is another form of war"? Other than Jean Sulivan in an obscure book, that is.
ReplyDelete"As someone once said" is just a weasel phrase meant to lend an air of credibility to an otherwise incredible statement.
Well, there is;
ReplyDelete"War is peace. Freedom is slavery. Ignorance is strength." from 1984 by George orwell
no one, i was not using an old adage, just my own.
ReplyDeletepostmodern-
'as someone once said' - i was not trying to lend it an air of credibility. i was showing that i am not the first to state that view.
why must you tease apart everything? there is no point to it in this case.
I think because the regulars here largely like to believe that "truth" must be "objective" beyond contradiction. Though from the purported exploits, some of them are masters at projecting "subjectivity" to suit their end goals.
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ReplyDeleteGagReflex: It's required to act in a way that matched your beliefs? Jeeze, when did that change? Better go warn the Christians, Jews, Muslims, Buddhists, Hindus, and every other person on the planet...
ReplyDeleteI think everyone here just needs a big bear hug, snack time, and a nap.
ReplyDeleteMan, I loved snack-time...
I'll take two of everything, please.
ReplyDeleteOh, and a blankie.~
I'll take two of everything and a triple shot of Captain Morgans.
ReplyDeleteand more running turtle videos, please. :)
ReplyDeleteSailor Jerry's, woman. At least have some class.~
ReplyDeleteNote, I'm not drinking very often these days and I've not had Sailor Jerry's; however, I'd be willing to try it if you're buying.
ReplyDeleteWhere do you live, darling? I'll bring a handle.
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ReplyDeleteNow you're playing hard to get.
ReplyDeleteI'm not playing, Note. I actually am hard to get but I'd still drink your Rum with you.
ReplyDeleteNotable is such a flirt.
ReplyDeletei want rum and coke. i live in the UK though. darn it.
and a fat cigar.
mmmm...
I take my spiced rum straight up.
ReplyDeleteI like it both ways.
ReplyDeleteGiggity.
In all seriousness, I'd love to share a drink with someone right now. But that would require leaving the house, and going outside, and, and...
Effort :(
Yeah, I've got just enough energy left in me to make the effort to shower in climb into bed.
ReplyDelete'Night Y'all.
why notable, what bars are open at this time round your way?!
ReplyDeleteIt's almost six in the morning here. so i presume it's past midnight there.
my city is shit, bars close so early.
i hate the effort factor in going out. i need to be dressed and dragged out, then once i hear the music, i'm on it like a cat on a mouse.
You viciously rend it, play with its blood and body parts, and then eat it?
ReplyDeleteI feel slightly aroused.
pretty much.
ReplyDeleteanything to make you happy my dear...
lol what happened to truthful whore?
ReplyDeleteall that 'advice' for nothing?
bejeezus, and you'd think you'd get a thank you once in a while...~
No respect, lady. No respect.
ReplyDeleteThat is evolution in action, not evidence of its failure. In fact, I'd say it's evidence of its success. As long as our reproduction keeps up with the rate at which we're killing ourselves, I'd say that evolution is doing a fine job of phasing weakness out of the gene pool. There's no sense in worrying your little mind about the marvel of evolution.
ReplyDeleteThat statement would make a fine joke if it's pertaining to the topic post.~
ReplyDeleteIt puts the lotion on its skin, but it doesn't rub it in. It puts the lotion on its skin, and then it starts to bitch again.
ReplyDelete"My skin is still dry, the lotion does not work!" Little does the moron know, he sounds like a retarded jerk.
"Rub it in, you fool, I say, this really is a chore. If you let the process take its course, your skin will be dry no more!"
So it puts the lotion on its skin, but still does not rub it in. It cannot understand and angrily feels its chin.
"My skin is broken, sick, and dead, and this lotion is a sham! It disgusts me to know just how weak I am!"
Still the fool will fool himself, to blame his skin and his kind, yet if he tried he would find the weakness lies in his mind.
Oh, and Happy Thanksgiving, motherfuckers.
ReplyDeleteVery nice, Anon, you get a golden star.
ReplyDeleteHappy colonialism day to you as well :)
Ah, now I see how the step by step guide to turkey seasoning post fits here.~
ReplyDeleteLemmings.
ReplyDeletesmoked sardines
ReplyDeleteThe skin just slips right off the ribs. Tastes fabulous with Sweet Baby Ray's.
ReplyDeleteActually, lollygagger... I can call you lollygagger, right? Right. It was directed at Mr. M.E. and his misguided disdain for humanity, particularly his choice to fault evolution for the weakness he observed. Unfortunately for him, weakness is relative--the subjectively perceived difference between the current state of strength and the current state of weakness. See, strength and weakness will always be in a state of flux, which means, as you might guess, that weakness will always exist. It stands to reason then that complaining about it is an exercise in futility, like complaining about how much light or darkness or matter or empty space there is in the universe. Kinda stupid, right? Now, to fault evolution for it is even dumber, because evolution is the process by which these weaknesses are converted into strengths, which is a process that will never end. The episode on the bridge was a shining example of evolution doing its job in making us fit to live in a world where we're our own biggest threat. The fact that humans have evolved so far that our biggest threat, by a huge margin, is ourselves and our own RELATIVE stupidity or intelligence, shows just how fucking successful evolution has been for us. To say that it's been anything other than a success is pretty fucking stupid, wouldn't you say?
ReplyDeleteBut, shit, by all means, if you want to live in your weary dreary little world where humanity is pathetic because you're not human and therefore you're better than everyone, by all means, dream on narci-poo. However the thoughts behind that kind of negativity are illogical, and there's no logical reason to force yourself to think that way because it will only have negative consequences for you. To that, I say... evolution in action!
"The episode on the bridge was a shining example of evolution ~successfully?~ doing its job in making us fit to live in a world where we're our own biggest threat."
ReplyDeleteFollowing this line of argument, why stop at the bridge? And if this was plainly logical then shouldn't it be applied to the bridge design and how humans manage themselves?
Of course not. If we ignored our desire for self preservation, evolution would fail very quickly. Are you really this determined to prove me wrong? Live a little, lollygagger.
ReplyDeleteEvolution is not the process by which "weaknesses become strengths". That's called fantasy.
ReplyDeleteEvolution is the process by which unfit individuals die out, so that the gene pool includes a higher proportion of fit ones.
You could be Daniel Birdick but I expect his argument would be less self contradicting. To whose expectations do I have the pleasure of living up to?
ReplyDeleteI've always had a suspicion about subscribing to a linear theory of evolution. There's a faint reek of preserving a ground hard fought for somewhere in there. There has always been evidence to support serendipitous processes at work in nature as well as in human discoveries.
ReplyDeleteCertainly. The only thing with which I took issue is the idea of transforming a weakness into a strength, which is not how evolution itself works. Relative strength on the evolutionary scale is measured by the fitness of one's predators and the difficulty of one's environment.
ReplyDeleteFor instance, let us say there is a lizard which is of a particular color which blends into the main parts of its habitat, except for one area which is traversed on a daily basis by a large number of the lizards. Their immediate predator (call it a bird) builds its nests around this area because it is easier to spot the lizards.
Now, in what way can the weakness be transformed into a strength without the addition of some element (thereby not being a true "transformation of weakness").
Consider that they develop a poison on their skin over many generations. Now their visibility is a less debilitating weakness (since birds which eat them die, so they learn to avoid the lizards), but it is still a weakness. Rather than the weakness becoming a strength, a new strength has been added to combat the effect of the weakness.
Consider instead that the lizards develop a subgroup with scales the color of the terrain in the birds' area. These lizards can make the trip unmolested, but they have sacrificed their camouflage in most of their habitat. This population cannot survive for more than a few generations. Now say that a fire burns the area to the ground, leaving the entire habitat the color of the originally vulnerable area. That weak trait is suddenly the only survivable option.
In the case of serendipitous external events, natural disasters, shifting predator hierarchy, what have you, yes, weak traits may become strong ones by coincidence.
Evolutionarily, though, it simply doesn't happen.
tl;dr version: Evolution is an additive process, not a transformative one.
ReplyDeleteThats cool. Good read PM.
ReplyDeleteNow with specific regards to the evolution of human civilization which arguably "transcends" basic survival. say, food, shelter and propagation of our kind. We project consequences, real or imagined and practice self imposed controls "morality?" to optimize our mortality. History has shown that we have learnt to indoctrinate ourselves at will to create & accept the latest thrills or scares of the moment. A consequence of which has been the many power shifts between the masses and elites, between sub-groups and ideologies including experiments with affirmative action. Frankly, any pattern of evolution as in the wildlife sense seems obfuscated.
ReplyDeletetl;dr version: Does Form follow Function or Function follows Form (in our case)
So sorry a misplaced word confused you so thoroughly, Postmodern. I'll be sure to triple check next time so you don't get all autistic on me. Should help things go more smoothly.
ReplyDelete@Anon November 23, 2010 12:48 PM
ReplyDeleteThis is not a low violence is the most basic form of communicating. Its a good thing, really.
people are selfish heaps of flesh always thinking about themselves than the whole... I hate them. Im proud to be neuropathically different.
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