"Is it because certain types of human life are more valuable than others?"
Isn't that a fact? Although as most people believe in the lie of equality (both biological and socially constructed), they shouldn't be agreeing.
While I agree child molesters (not necessarily paedophiles as; A. Not all paedos act on their desires, and B. Not all molesters of children are clinically paedos), should be killed, it isn't due to any "justice" reasons, but because over population is a problem and why bother keeping alive a convicted raper of children (and when I say children, I mean children, not teenagers who are biologically supposed to be having sex)? Either use them for slave labour or kill them, why waste money and resources on them?
As for dogs being killed, I disagree that they should as; A. They are animals and people should realise that no matter how much you tame the blond beast it's still there, and B. Alot of times the kids deserve it for f*cking around with the dog, and the dog shouldn’t be punished because of some a-hole kid.
lol unless a quadriplegic is a genius, I agree why waste resources. As for people in comas, it should be judged on a case by case basis i.e. if the person is a crackhead, just cut them off, however if the person is an inventor, give them a year or two and if they haven't come out of it, cut them off.
It is marketing. Do you like the brown skinned criminal? I thought pedos are mostly white. Now theres a superiority factor in the poster I can see. Its easier to kill non white, bur a purebreed dog??? What the hell were they thinking?
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Human Beings, even the worst, like a Hitler or a Hussien are not animals. Only human beings have free will, therefore the ability to CHOOSE good and shun evil.
M.E. is absolutely correct when she believes she will one day construct planets (like God) "Behold ye are Gods, ye children of the Most High." The mistake she was taught was that you have to be a member of an exclusivest religion (Like The Later Day Saints) to obtain the prividledge. This is untrue. Salvation is given by unmerited grace. I wonder what an eternity with a "reformed" Hitler and Hussien will be like.
When dogs are put to sleep, in general, for doing "dirt" humans often are to blame, they picked a "fall guy" on four legs. Imagine being tied up in a public place filled with hostile creatures, shouldn´t that count for something in a trial? But there is no trial, no lawyer, just a paid executioner.
I think it is your basic dehumanization argument: the kid raper is a dangerous robot made of meat (not a sentient creature) so kill it. It is a combined emotional/utilitarian appeal.
We argue for death penalties on a utilitarian basis: we are better off without mosquitos, so kill them all.
Threat-sensitive sociopaths are quite amenable to these arguments. Eg take a sociopath whose family were killed by Bolsheviks. He'll grow up and volunteer to be on an anti-commie death squad.
I have no problem pressing my teeth hard hard against pedophiles ( or any kind of sex molester), just the same way I charge against cyberstalkers. Both groups do the same thing: intrude in to someone’s life, violate and exploit individuals for their entertainments, harass, intimidate, torment, and mentally harm their victims. They have no legitimate purpose, and totally disregard warnings to stop. It’s a felony C. They form anonymous mobs, they target and dehumanize their victim, which makes the victim behave even more destructively, and then they become more aggressive since they feel they are supported by authority figures. In fact, not only they raise anonymous mobs against an individual, by spreading lies, sometimes they use certain “words/ images” suggesting the commission of those acts. According to cyber civil rights, their motives “ are ideological, or include a desire for financial gain or REVENGE.”
According to "Cyber-Stalking: Obsessional Pursuit and the Digital Criminal", “the stalker wants to instill fear in a person to justify his/her status; belief they can get away with it (anonymity); intimidation for financial advantage or business competition; revenge over perceived or imagined rejection.”
(That’s why, I never post as an anon here again, I saw how easily my innocent words were twisted, or how some dangerous anon took advantage of my naivety)
People who pursue revenge become dangerous just like that dog up there. Unfortunately, victims have no choice at that point but to pursue their legal rights.
This strikes me as having roots in soothing fear. When those in power persuade a group to give up their own agency (right to act on a personal sense of right and wrong) in favor of assuming the morals of a group, they are sacrificing something unnatural. A great example of this is the German people in World War II. There has to be a motivation more compelling than "wow- that power hungry dictator has really good communication skills". To give something up, something must be gained in exchange.
My belief is that groups accept a leader when they believe he offers a compelling solution to their most primal fears. The most powerful dictators have always found that identifying fear and then convincing a group that they don't have to feel afraid anymore if they hand over the decision making to him (or her...)
In order for a formerly scared population to continue to feel enough fear to keep them compliant, fear must be continually cultivated and displaced through the machinations of the leader. That's why scapegoating is a necessary part of all authoritarian regimes.
This meme is a graphic representation of fear being cultivated, and then offloaded/punished.
Of course certain types of life are more valuable than others. It depends on ones' own personal morals system. Dogs shouldn't be put to sleep for biting; their owners should be punished. We should stick all pervs in general pop with a big target on their back. Taking out the trash
Many folks don´t think they have to deal with things: if sharks munch on tourists on the local beach they seriously want blow them to pieces with floating machine gun towers! Violence, guns, punishment & kilkillkill sadly seems to be the "answer" when folks don´t want to/are unable to handle problems & deal with them. Nature gives and takes. Basic truth. Fact. Cannot handle that sandwich? Scorp half-psychos mostly are ready to handle such issues, and in other ways than the bawling childish majority imagines. They know about these things. Listen and learn.
Shouldn´t there be a topic some day about having psychopatic relatives one really hates but have to endure because one respects ones older decent relatives which have spawned the above mentioned malign wraits on two legs nobody (without machochistic leanings) would want to spend christmas holidays with? Surely this must be a very common problem..
Funny you should mention that. Family dysfunction seems to be the new norm. That being said, I find it ironic that as an empath you hold such hate. Do you hate them because you dislike their attitude or actions? Is it because of their behaviour and attitude, or because of what they have done in the past?
Don't get me wrong, I am no fan of christmas holidays with the extended family either. I would much rather watch TV or internet surf and not have to go through the social/societal obligations, like small-talk with people you rarely meet. Then again I don't care for small-talk in general. It seems like a waste, especially when I have to work the mask with them. If I have to work it, I want to get something out of it. Even if it was something like an intellectual debate/argument, like politics. Though only for a limited time, because without fail the empaths always passionately take sides with some politician's stance, even though I can clearly see with clinical accuracy how crafted and fake their pleas are. I can literally point a finger at every Power Word and Phrase used, like it was stamped out of the brain mold of a trained marketer or "communications officer". How can empaths not see it?
Maybe it's because as sociopaths we are naturally aware of manipulation (to coin the phrase, "trying to con a con"). Not that we are immune to it, far from it to be fair, but we are predisposed to identifying it because we use it daily. Whether or not we choose to act different because of it is something else ("Make it a combo for only 89 cents more? You're upselling me, and I know the food is designed to make me more thirsty. But I want hydration anyways. Sucker away").
Which brings another question. Do you hate them because they're manipulative, or because they're neurotic?
kids in shitty families do not discover the nature of their parents psychiatric problems until they have been badly damaged themselves
many 'wake up' in their 40s and 50s and realize the lives they could have had were it not for having been emotionally trashed and treated like trash as a child
other relatives and siblings in shitty families like this learn to protect their own corner
frequently it is the eldest child that is the most damaged - winds up carrying "the cross of shame" for the shitty family
after 'awakening' to 'reality', hate is totally natural
If one has identified psycho relatives its hard to ever "get back" to where these relations were before this knowledge came. Fact: standard psycho 1A (nonviolent everyday type) is a disgusting thing to have to "smalltalk" to, its a sick game where they try to trip everybody in subtle ways: creating embarrassing situations, degrade others & collect sensitive info so they can spread rumors afterwards & talk behind backs with intention to harm. Like sitting face to face with fusions between vulture/vipers and, for the sake of dear old innocent all-forgiving relatives just seeing good in everybody, not saying what should be said. DISGUSTING. And almost every (big) family has this internal problem.
The most white-hot hatred probably occurs in families where "detection experts" on psychopathy (certain zodiac signs) resides and meet mentioned "1A standard-psychos". Most folks in such situations just will bawl the innocent-classic phrase "-But what have I done to them, I thought we were friends..boo-hoo!" The zodiac detection expert knows all about "the game". These alien viper-relatives are not here to chitchat, they are not here to nurture relations, they´re just here to "have fun" (at others expense). Some might call the detection expert a ruthless psycho himself, which is a mistake since his intentions are not to embarrass or degrade. But once "winded up" this human detector just patiently waits for the hour, in the future, when a certain cold dish, or several, will be served..
Speaking of a "standard sociopath" (and by standard I am assuming akin to prototypical, not stereotypical), it is important to be careful. For example, spread rumours, talking behind backs of people with intention to harm implies malice. Or at a more basic level, anger and desire for power/control over them. That implies at some level an empathic response (in this case, a malaligned one) that ends up making a person feel good.
Remember, the manipulation of others in a prototypical sociopath is to achieve a goal (to fulfill a want or need), not necessarily for maladjusted entertainment. There needs to be some sort of reasoning behind it than a pure emotional high.
It's not that I don't feel good about it, it's just that I don't feel bad about it. Even if I was bored, the act must fulfill at least an interest or some gain.
Real psychopaths do lots of stuff which just satisfies themselves "emotionally": seeing others frightened or filled with impotent rage (without having the nerve to talk back) is like sweet candy for genuine hollow folks. Its FUN STUFF for them, they feel powerful when doing so. This is the core of a their being, not some unusual events.
That is a common misconception. That is not psychopathy. You are referring to sadism.
Sociopaths don't manipulate people to obtain an emotion high, they do it accomplish a goal for their benefit. If the receiver feels frightened or filled with impotent rage, it is as a consequence to what the manipulation had done to the receiver.
Let's say you had an apple. I wanted it. Because of this, I manipulate you to get the apple. You feel angry that I did it.
Sociopath: I now have an apple. I can now eat it. Sadist: I feel good that you are suffering for it. I throw away the apple.
The sadist wants to make you suffer, because it feels good. The sociopath just wants the apple.
I'd have to agree with you on this one. I don't understand why there's a notable difference when a child gets harmed. I've similarly never understood why "Baby on board" makes any difference.
So what, you've got a child on board? Should I be arbitrarily less inclined to rickshaw you off the road because of it?
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Speaking as the anon who spoke of small-talk with the family, I was professionally-diagnosed years ago. This, coupled with multiple self-testing for recent verification, would qualify me as a "genuine" sociopath. As for everyone else? I am sure there are actual sociopaths here, but from the majority of postings I would say many of those who post are not. Which is fair enough, because it makes debate a lot more interesting and promotes a more balanced perspective.
From an evolutionary perspective - as in nature - it is clearly a dysfunction to be sexually attracted to prepubescent children. They do not exhibit the sexual characteristics apparent with someone developed. In nature, it makes sense when they are developed to be sexually attracted as this propagates reproduction and the survival of the species. By extension, a pedophile is not sexually functioning at a level that is conducive for the survival of the species. How does a species survive with that trait? They don't. I suppose you could also extend this rationale towards homosexuality, but to be fair there are additional factors involved (such as non-sexual intimacy and commitment).
As for the Baby on Board sign, I understand it as an empathic warning sign to illicit guilt to anyone who may force an action on the posted vehicle. It is a manipulation which is trying to force a moral behaviour. For me, I understand it just as well. Don't get me wrong, the sign doesn't pull at any heart strings for me, but I do understand it as not only a moral wrong but also a more basic wrong. Killing your own species, especially those not yet developed, is mostly dysfunctional. I say mostly, because there are instances in nature where this happens, but in those cases it is to promote the passing of potentially stronger genetic combinations (your own in this case, as the attacker). But that isn't the majority, since plenty of group/herd species (which we qualify as) can jealously protect other offspring in the group, nor is it a wholly-definitive excuse for cognitive creatures such as humans since we can step outside of the instinctual paradigm.
For me, moral compass aside, pedophilia is a dysfunction that isn't good for the species.
And I thought I'm the only one implying nature in logic. I recall someone I suspect to be histrionic asking me why is pedophilia wrong. I presented several arguments, including the one you just presented, yet he kept asking "So what? Why?". Then I figured he tried to copy me when I would counter-argue issues, only pointlessly like that.
Yes, I find nature to be a beautiful manifestation of rationality and use it as an example to otherwise seemingly unrelated situations in life.
Take prostitution. It doesn't exist in nature. In nature only the successful members of the species get to reproduce. Surely plenty of animal species have sex for non-reproductive purposes (outside heat season or even with same sex), but I am yet to witness a monkey giving another monkey a banana and get sexual favors in return.
Mankind bypassed many mechanisms of natural selection, this is just one of them.
Now, when other people try to use nature as an argument, it will somehow come out flawed - meaning, something is "natural" to them only when it suits them. Like when catholic priests say homosexuality is unnatural (and celibacy is?).
My favorite is when (heterosexual) men state that monogamy is unnatural (I assume they seek approval to their infidelity). They tell that a male must spread his semen at all opportunity and things like that. I counter that argument with "You're absolutely right! Monogamy is unnatural! It's best for the species if a human female, in this day and age, to marry a good provider and family man (ie - a nice accountant with an even nicer paycheck) and have offspring with a typical alpha male (good looking, fun, strong "bad boy"), enjoying both good providing for her and her offspring and better genes than those of the weak tempered, fluorescent tanned office geek". After this answer they're usually left stunned. The term "impotent rage" suddenly gets a new meaning. I like to think they run to get a paternity test for their kids right after. Heh.
Also, is it proper to mix monogomistic societal values with nature? It is, in fact, natural to be polygamous.
Polygamy is advantageous in nature because you increase reproduction and chances of survival of the species. Not just in numbers, but also in the inherent increases in genetic variation which lead to a greater number of successful offspring.
(Part 1) I'm not sure what you mean when you say "prostitution" in nature. Is it the Emperor Penguin, who is being the sole caretaker of the chick? Lots of animals have parental duties that don't fit with mankind's "traditional setting", which will often bring people into "concluding" things out of it.
I noticed how people, using the nature argument, will compare a male member of a (random) animal species that will feed a female, or give her some kind of token, to themselves when they, let's say, buy a girl dinner on a date, in hope to achieve sex, thinking the sex comes in return and compare that to prostitution. In nature things are far more utilized as when it comes to tokens. It's usually the male proving his skills for providing for the female and the offspring, since many animals care for their brood together, which is essential when offspring require a lot of care being born "underdeveloped" and completely dependent.
(Some kind of code error just poofed half my post so I'll make that part it did shorter...).
Part 1:
I'm not sure what you mean by "prostitution" in nature. I know people will confuse animal behavior by trying to reflect it on their own. When male animals give female animals tokens, it's to exhibit their ability to provide for her and the offspring, which can be very dependent and helpless until maturing, requiring lots of time, energy and resources from their parental unit. The monogamy and "proof of providing" is more common with animals who's offspring are such. Some animals expanded providing beyond the parental unit and babysit (like elephants and dolphins). I know lots of monkey species will share responsibility for offspring, simply because their mating season is like a roman orgy and no one knows which child is their own so they go by "it might be mine" to take care of all.
Part 1: I'm not sure what you mean when you say "prostitution" in nature. Can you explain?
And since not all animals are polygamous, yet the non-polygamous are still here so there is logic behind their strategy. Some offspring are born very dependent on their parental unit, thus consuming their entire time and energy. If these species would act like cats, where the male does his job and goes away, the offspring would not survive depending on the female alone. As for monkeys, a lot of them share the caring for the offspring, providing "babysitting" and "nursing", simply because their mating season looks like a Roman orgy so they use the "I might be the baby daddy" logic. ...Which brings me to the next point. Humans are born as underdeveloped as larva. They're completely dependent on their parents, sometimes more than the parents. The human is indeed the most "nest staying" animal in the animal kingdom and that requires a lot of energy and resources, to raise this "cub" and put it on its own two feet. For "higher" species of animals, surviving, prospering and procreating is not enough - they must make sure their offspring are fully grown and equipped with the skills to survive, prosper and, eventually, procreate themselves, to keep the genetic legacy going. This is where polygamy in humans can go "off". Humans have a sense of jealousy. Not the kind one feels over what the other possesses, but a special kind of jealousy saved for partnership. Men and women, essentially, are jealous for different reasons and they're entirely biological, thus do make sense even when there seems to be none.
Part 1: I'm not sure what you mean when you say "prostitution" in nature. Can you explain?
And since not all animals are polygamous, yet the non-polygamous are still here so there is logic behind their strategy. Some offspring are born very dependent on their parental unit, thus consuming their entire time and energy. If these species would act like cats, where the male does his job and goes away, the offspring would not survive depending on the female alone. As for monkeys, a lot of them share the caring for the offspring, providing "babysitting" and "nursing", simply because their mating season looks like a Roman orgy so they use the "I might be the baby daddy" logic. ...Which brings me to the next point. Humans are born as underdeveloped as larva. They're completely dependent on their parents, sometimes more than the parents. The human is indeed the most "nest staying" animal in the animal kingdom and that requires a lot of energy and resources, to raise this "cub" and put it on its own two feet. For "higher" species of animals, surviving, prospering and procreating is not enough - they must make sure their offspring are fully grown and equipped with the skills to survive, prosper and, eventually, procreate themselves, to keep the genetic legacy going. This is where polygamy in humans can go "off". Humans have a sense of jealousy. Not the kind one feels over what the other possesses, but a special kind of jealousy saved for partnership. Men and women, essentially, are jealous for different reasons and they're entirely biological, thus do make sense even when there seems to be none.
Part 2: A man will be jealous of his woman, because that primal instinct brings out the same fears as what I described above, with the parental test. Until not long ago mankind had no sure way knowing "who's the baby daddy", stranding many men to take care of a child that might not be their own. With women it's similar but different. The woman fears the male, being potentially able to "spread his semen" and "inseminate" several females in one night - while she can only bare one of nature's longest and enduring pregnancies - might end up taking choosing to care for another woman's offspring rather than their own, or even simultaneously, and thus depriving her and her offspring of his time, energy and resources, putting her offspring at a disadvantage. Although one can run a paternity test today and men and women can use birth control, the sense of jealousy still remains, even if there are no children even planned. It's an instinct. It doesn't have to make sense.
Polygamy is not always advantageous. "Spreading your semen" might not prove as efficient in the human species as it would in, let's say, the Sunfish, that lays 2 million eggs at a time. Humans, being complex creatures, not only require a lot of time, energy and resources to be grown to survive, prospect and procreate, but also the genetic variation factor plays a role. You know Iceland has the highest rate of breast cancer in the world? The world average is 1 in 7-8, while in Iceland it's 1 in 4. How so? Turns out they isolated the gene causing it, and traced it back to a man who immigrated from Norway some 100 years ago, and, as evidence show, had a lot of offspring. The fact 1 in 4 women on the island carries his defected gene, shows that he was "successful" in some terms (by managing to procreate with a lot of females), but this success, on the long run is a ruin. Plus, in nature, there's not really such a thing as "social security", and females who's "baby daddy" bailed on them, are left to provide on their own, or with the help of their "group" or "tribe", if they volunteer to do so.
When in humans, one male creates an entire population in generation to carry his genetic profile, this not only spreads any defect he had in his genome, but increases the chances for incest. Now, I don't need to explain you why incest is wrong, even (some) animals keep systems to avoid mating with relatives. Humans, being such complex creatures, that a "narrow" genetic profile can create series of defects.
You can witness it happening with populations where both polygamy and cousin/uncle marriages are practiced. No need to say these populations are well behind. I have read an article on the increase of genetic diseases, both physical and mental, in the UK, and it clearly stated that this occurs in specific populations, to the point where these populations are responsible for 1/3 of all such defects in the country, while being only some 2% of the general population.
Success is not always measured in numbers. It's essentially why you'll find that poor people and extremely religious people (usually goes hand in hand) will have lots of children, while more successful parents will have just few. The more successful are so because they prefer investment of time, energy and resources in their young - rather than making procreating a lottery and filling as many tickets as one can to increase the chance of winning. Note that even though poverty is not genetic, or even a natural occurrence, it tends to be "inherited".
This pic is a microcosm of religion - people bonding on fear and hate. RE:"Valuable" - LOL, this is why I love socios. I think it's common for empaths (of which I am one - I would fail at pulling a reversal in hiding amongst you socios, don't start about "double standards", I understand and can appreciate how frustrating it must be to be forced to blend with us illogical conforming-obsessed empaths - and i'm sort of 50/50 myself as a left-brained analytical thinking, now please excuse the intro buried in an oversized, abused parenthetical runon )... i'm resetting this sentence. I think it's common for empaths to feel fine killing so long as 1) many others agree with them , 2) the number of layers / distance between them and the kill is sufficiently indirect so they are insulated from the act itself, and 3) they have a formal process driving (government) the matter by a respected entity which is in a position of authority (see the "Milgram experiment" http://www.simplypsychology.org/milgram.html) About #2, I think drone warfare is so sustainable as a policy because of the US's level of removal from the actual deaths. Many people thing drone warfare is entirely automated. Dehumanizing people is another element used in war (and here). The enemy, muslim terrorists in pakistan's case and child molesters in the above case are not seen entirely as human by the people who fear them and want to exact punishment. This is a matter of cognitive, *empathetic* distance where they've willfully downgraded their own empathy so they can carry out these acts upon something (some PEOPLE) they've defined as "evil".
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I believe you are referring to apathy when talking about intentional killing. An empathy would only kill if absolutely necessary or if they had a psychotic break. Yes Stanley Millgram's Obedience to Authority is awesome. That is the conundrum....the majority will either enable a sociopath or look the other way. Sheeple........up thread anon...nice description of a sociopath at family events.
Pedophilia is clearly not about LOVE-it is about power and the helplessness or vulnerability of the child. The fact that Pedophilia seems to have a contagious component (Abused frequently become abusers or internalize the process and become self abusers engaging in self harm or addiction.), it seems method of quaranteen is required Chemical csatration doesnt work as the genitals are nort the areas where the problem is located, but the brain. Child abusers seem to want to inflict their own soiled damaged psyches on others, as if by so doing will alleviate their own self hatred- but any respite is short lived and is a case of magical thinking-doing the same thing over again becomes addictive, like serial killers of the OCD sufferer, as if in getting it JUST right will fix everything and the pain and existential horror will suddenly be lifted. It never is. So we need to isolate, until the far reaches of sci-fi neuroscience gives us a realistic method of re writing the nervous system...
I don't think it's about power so much as the common knowledge that rape is about power where the target is an adult. (by "rape", I mean actual forceful rape, not "Statutory", or as I like calling it amongst friends, "mustachutory") I think the kid thing is about connecting to their childhood. (there is a sexual fetish where men get in diapers and cry and play with baby toys) Or in the case of catholic priests: a handy outlet for badly pent up and repressed sexual energy that blows up on them forcing them to grab what they can on a whim that they think they can control enough to shut them up. But with the priests, I think it's also about rebellion against a persistent moral weight on them imposed by the ever present magic boogie god who is spying one their thoughts. They are making a fast break from the psychology of totalitarianism to establish a kind of mental self-talk version of a declaration of independence.
Thing with priests I think relates to that nasty monotheistic trick, they can behave like the most disgusting bullying arseholes and rape their way thru the choir all in the knowledge that after confession its like it never happened, and the Vatican or local bishop will just move them on to fresh fields. Their was a case of a guy who went ape with a gun in an Amish girls school-had a bag of sex toys, I always thought he was trying to exorcise the pedophile inside, letting it out so he could kill it, and the kids where just collateral damage.
Also with the priest thing, they are repressed, and as sex and achieving religious states are close if not identical in terms of brain mechanics they confuse the two. As monotheistic religions are often about denying actual religious states (and leaving them in the hands of the company men-Priests,Rabbis, Imams etc and then only in very restricted ways.,) as well as sexual transcendence its is no surprise that these areas become confused and obsessive and pathological in the priests blocked up nervous system.
pIl, I believe you've only described one layer to pedophilia. Not all who been abused will become abusers (tho some experts say it's 1 out of 3), as not all abusers were once abused.
In forensics, they have several "classifications" to pedophiles, mostly in accordance to the nature of the crime. 1) Some are sexually attracted to children, period. 2) Some are "opportunists" - they'd diddle a hole in the wall but a child was there so they seized the opportunity. 3) Maladjusted socially as well as sexually - they can't approach an adult for sexual purposes for a variety of reasons. For example, they find it easier to communicate with children since their own personality is stuck at a child's level of development (could also be retardation, some convicted pedophiles are retarded), making them both undesirable for adults and the adults to seem too "complex" for them. 4) There's another subtype I can't quite remember right now.
The idea with the priests has been debated in and out and is still relevant and is interesting.
A lot of us will agree that one of the key reasons priests sexually assault children is the simple truth of trying to bridle a primal drive/impulse to complete extinguish (as opposed to limitation), is bound to result in chaotic outburst. It is witnessed so in many religious societies where sex is largely restricted. It simply gets another outlet, usually more dark and profane.
Celibacy was officially accepted throughout the church in the 11th century. Before that priests were allowed to marry, at least to a certain rank. In the Russian Orthodox Church they still marry up to a rank. The idea of celibacy actually has reason, tho not entirely of "chaste" nature. In some cultures eunuchs were entrusted with responsibilities and powerful positions, not just guarding harems. Why? Simple. A eunuch is not only unlikely to be distracted by sexual desires, but is also out of the race to be succumbed to nepotism. With clergy having much power and influence in society in the middle ages, it only made sense to make them celibate, to avoid them passing on their power to offspring. Why not castration, like practiced in the east? I think there's that excuse of making them fight their own carnal desires, as opposed to be freed from them with a slash of a gelding knife.
But the story is older than the children being abused these days. Correct me if I'm wrong, but wasn't it Martin Luther, the (accidental) father of the protestant church, who went on a pilgrimage to Rome to only find out that the holiest men are rolling in the unholiest filth and that in Rome they even had special brothels for that "special" clientele... It was his shock of that discovery for the hypocrisy and double standards of clergy, especially such in high position, that eventually led to what later turned into a civil war and separation of the church into two entities.
I doubt priests only target children, but children certainly are the easiest prey. They're quick to trust and later also quicker to realize that no one will believe them and to keep it a secret. I mean, I'm pretty sure the priests who took the role as inquisitors, who forcefully converted Jews and Pagans, were "punishing their bishop" under the table, while torturing people to make false confessions and whatnot.
Dog attacks happen out of fear, and the fact that someone wasn't paying attention. Pedophilia is a sexual preference for children. Rape is not pedophilia.
And who is scarred for life? I'm not defending bad behaviour, but seriously since when do we think its okay for people to be scarred for life because of these things?
Not worthless, just worth differently depending on the situation, the necessity, and the outlook. People have value in their utility to not only to me, but society and themselves.
Also, what if the offender could be rehabilitated so as to not do it again?
Too see if they really are rehabilitated, means taking the risk that they may assault another child. As opposed to, let's say, relapsing alcoholics - most of which would end up passed out drunk in a gutter and miss a few days work, then come crying about it in their AA meeting. Plus it's not like a pedophile would come forward and tell his "rehabilitator" he had a "relapse". They'd say anything to convince whoever is trying to rehabilitate them that they're "cured".
I keep getting reminded on Clockword Orange in this context (as well as others), with the main character, Alex, going through his rehabilitation.
That risk is inherent in anyone who commits any kind of crime, not just pedophilia. By that virtue, anyone who commits any kind of felony should just be executed. Why let them live? You stick them in prison until release - but if rehabilitation is too much of a risk, why keep repeating the prison cycle until their death? Would it not make more sense to just kill them, instead of wasting billions of dollars?
In the end, it is because it's not a concern about rehabilitation. It isn't even legitimate justification of killing them. It's about making people not feel bad about just killing them. Prisons exist in today's society for three reasons: 1) to stop further harm from happening to people and society, and 2) to make people feel safe by compartmentalizing the offenders, and 3) to make a profit.
It is a key concept that prohibits any rehabilitation (even research into developing rehabilitation). It is almost non-existent today, even for lesser crimes (which have the great probability of successful rehabilitation while simultaneously low risk. It would make sense to alleviate #1, because by rehabilitating someone further harm ceases to be inflicted when the offender is released. However, it does not make sense for #2, and certainly not for #3. Your concern falls under category #2. Which is fine, because in general people are more concerned about #2 than #1. They might convince themselves and others that it is not, but it is because of their actions and inactions. What people actually do is eminently more important than what they believe.
That isn't to say the majority of people are exclusively at fault. It is significantly exacerbated by a minority of people due to #3.
It continually surprises me to see the discontinuity between what people think, and what they do. #2 sets a dangerous condition. More-so than even #3, because to get profit #2 is required as a precondition.
1) Revenge - I could expand but I see no point. 2) Isolation (or compartmentalizing, as you put it) and risk reduction. 3) Largely irrelevant because many countries don't have private prisons.
As for rehabilitation... The core lies in the nature of the crime. Rehabilitating a drug addict is different from rehabilitating a burglar. Rehabilitating a sex offender is even more complex.
Surveys shown that criminals who had completed their GED's in prison were less likely to repeat the offenses they had committed and fit better in society. For example. Sex offenders are different by all means. You understand there's quite some difference between releasing a burglar to the street - who might steal stuff - and a sexual predator who might repeat or even escalate. I have/had a passion for forensics, and I compared patterns in different cultures and geographic areas. I saw some areas were likely to have sex offenders to escalate after release - regardless to if they been through a rehabilitation program or not. By escalation I mean disposing of the victim altogether.
As for the discontinuity - I see it all the time. It kind of puzzles me. You ever had an environmentalist "pioneer", at work or elsewhere, preaching to everyone? Oddly enough, they'll still use disposable paper cups for their coffee. I don't even think they notice it.
The making a profit aspect is not serious-the idea that a prison, especially one dealing in the area of sex offenders can be run on a profit basis is absurd. Maybe less so with other crimes, but certainly with sex attacks on children people would rather 1 and 2 where prioritised. Treatment of sex offenders clearly has a long way to go-sex crimes and paedophilia especially seems to have roots in the brain and not in the sex organs. Colin Wilson has written on the sexual criminal and his 'soul', and some of the existential rootes of such acts.
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Is nobody else but me distracted by constantly having to be subjected to look at the site's wallpaper of a woman's head on a pike and her eyes gouged out everytime you scroll down?
This is an excellent site, but I wish whoever is in charge of this site, to please change the wallpaper.
I as well as many others find that the mask is distracting us from what is actually important on this site: THE CONTENT of the blogs.
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"Is it because certain types of human life are more valuable than others?"
ReplyDeleteIsn't that a fact? Although as most people believe in the lie of equality (both biological and socially constructed), they shouldn't be agreeing.
While I agree child molesters (not necessarily paedophiles as; A. Not all paedos act on their desires, and B. Not all molesters of children are clinically paedos), should be killed, it isn't due to any "justice" reasons, but because over population is a problem and why bother keeping alive a convicted raper of children (and when I say children, I mean children, not teenagers who are biologically supposed to be having sex)? Either use them for slave labour or kill them, why waste money and resources on them?
As for dogs being killed, I disagree that they should as; A. They are animals and people should realise that no matter how much you tame the blond beast it's still there, and B. Alot of times the kids deserve it for f*cking around with the dog, and the dog shouldn’t be punished because of some a-hole kid.
Why waste money and resources on quadriplegics? Why waste money and resources on people in comas?
DeleteWhen someone feels superior, they can justify anything.
Agreed.
Deletelol unless a quadriplegic is a genius, I agree why waste resources. As for people in comas, it should be judged on a case by case basis i.e. if the person is a crackhead, just cut them off, however if the person is an inventor, give them a year or two and if they haven't come out of it, cut them off.
I dont think this poster is abour superiority. its about fear and piwerlessness. And rage. Which leads to revenge murdering.
DeleteIt is marketing. Do you like the brown skinned criminal?
DeleteI thought pedos are mostly white. Now theres a superiority factor in the poster I can see. Its easier to kill non white, bur a purebreed dog??? What the hell were they thinking?
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DeleteAn amazing testimony on a spell caster who brought my wife back to me.
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Human Beings, even the worst, like a Hitler or a Hussien are not
ReplyDeleteanimals. Only human beings have free will, therefore the ability to CHOOSE good and shun evil.
M.E. is absolutely correct when she believes she will one day construct
planets (like God) "Behold ye are Gods, ye children of the Most High."
The mistake she was taught was that you have to be a member of an
exclusivest religion (Like The Later Day Saints) to obtain the
prividledge. This is untrue. Salvation is given by unmerited grace.
I wonder what an eternity with a "reformed" Hitler and Hussien
will be like.
When dogs are put to sleep, in general, for doing "dirt" humans often are to blame, they picked a "fall guy" on four legs. Imagine being tied up in a public place filled with hostile creatures, shouldn´t that count for something in a trial? But there is no trial, no lawyer, just a paid executioner.
ReplyDeleteKill it with fire.
ReplyDeleteAgree
DeleteOur culture worships youth, yet pedophilia is among our most feared and reviled taboos. Could this meme be a form projection?
ReplyDeleteHahahaha "form projection"
DeleteI think it is your basic dehumanization argument: the kid raper is a dangerous robot made of meat (not a sentient creature) so kill it. It is a combined emotional/utilitarian appeal.
ReplyDeleteWe argue for death penalties on a utilitarian basis: we are better off without mosquitos, so kill them all.
Threat-sensitive sociopaths are quite amenable to these arguments. Eg take a sociopath whose family were killed by Bolsheviks. He'll grow up and volunteer to be on an anti-commie death squad.
Sociopaths: Ungodly Fruit by Wax Tailor
ReplyDeleteI have no problem pressing my teeth hard hard against pedophiles ( or any kind of sex molester), just the same way I charge against cyberstalkers. Both groups do the same thing: intrude in to someone’s life, violate and exploit individuals for their entertainments, harass, intimidate, torment, and mentally harm their victims. They have no legitimate purpose, and totally disregard warnings to stop. It’s a felony C.
ReplyDeleteThey form anonymous mobs, they target and dehumanize their victim, which makes the victim behave even more destructively, and then they become more aggressive since they feel they are supported by authority figures.
In fact, not only they raise anonymous mobs against an individual, by spreading lies, sometimes they use certain “words/ images” suggesting the commission of those acts. According to cyber civil rights, their motives “ are ideological, or include a desire for financial gain or REVENGE.”
According to "Cyber-Stalking: Obsessional Pursuit and the Digital Criminal", “the stalker wants to instill fear in a person to justify his/her status; belief they can get away with it (anonymity); intimidation for financial advantage or business competition; revenge over perceived or imagined rejection.”
Delete(That’s why, I never post as an anon here again, I saw how easily my innocent words were twisted, or how some dangerous anon took advantage of my naivety)
People who pursue revenge become dangerous just like that dog up there. Unfortunately, victims have no choice at that point but to pursue their legal rights.
Pedophiles should be locked up for life. Period.
ReplyDeleteThis strikes me as having roots in soothing fear. When those in power persuade a group to give up their own agency (right to act on a personal sense of right and wrong) in favor of assuming the morals of a group, they are sacrificing something unnatural. A great example of this is the German people in World War II.
ReplyDeleteThere has to be a motivation more compelling than "wow- that power hungry dictator has really good communication skills". To give something up, something must be gained in exchange.
My belief is that groups accept a leader when they believe he offers a compelling solution to their most primal fears. The most powerful dictators have always found that identifying fear and then convincing a group that they don't have to feel afraid anymore if they hand over the decision making to him (or her...)
In order for a formerly scared population to continue to feel enough fear to keep them compliant, fear must be continually cultivated and displaced through the machinations of the leader. That's why scapegoating is a necessary part of all authoritarian regimes.
This meme is a graphic representation of fear being cultivated, and then offloaded/punished.
AKA Transference
DeleteMost neurotypicals are sheep and easily led by these simple mechanisms.
For good. For bad. Always an element of delusion.
That is because the truth hurts...
There is no argument; it's simply the irrational rhetoric of the "God n Guns" crowd.
ReplyDeleteMelissaR
Ah, what stench................
DeleteOf course certain types of life are more valuable than others. It depends on ones' own personal morals system.
ReplyDeleteDogs shouldn't be put to sleep for biting; their owners should be punished.
We should stick all pervs in general pop with a big target on their back.
Taking out the trash
Many folks don´t think they have to deal with things: if sharks munch on tourists on the local beach they seriously want blow them to pieces with floating machine gun towers! Violence, guns, punishment & kilkillkill sadly seems to be the "answer" when folks don´t want to/are unable to handle problems & deal with them. Nature gives and takes. Basic truth. Fact. Cannot handle that sandwich? Scorp half-psychos mostly are ready to handle such issues, and in other ways than the bawling childish majority imagines. They know about these things. Listen and learn.
ReplyDeleteShouldn´t there be a topic some day about having psychopatic relatives one really hates but have to endure because one respects ones older decent relatives which have spawned the above mentioned malign wraits on two legs nobody (without machochistic leanings) would want to spend christmas holidays with? Surely this must be a very common problem..
DeleteFunny you should mention that. Family dysfunction seems to be the new norm. That being said, I find it ironic that as an empath you hold such hate. Do you hate them because you dislike their attitude or actions? Is it because of their behaviour and attitude, or because of what they have done in the past?
DeleteDon't get me wrong, I am no fan of christmas holidays with the extended family either. I would much rather watch TV or internet surf and not have to go through the social/societal obligations, like small-talk with people you rarely meet. Then again I don't care for small-talk in general. It seems like a waste, especially when I have to work the mask with them. If I have to work it, I want to get something out of it. Even if it was something like an intellectual debate/argument, like politics. Though only for a limited time, because without fail the empaths always passionately take sides with some politician's stance, even though I can clearly see with clinical accuracy how crafted and fake their pleas are. I can literally point a finger at every Power Word and Phrase used, like it was stamped out of the brain mold of a trained marketer or "communications officer". How can empaths not see it?
Maybe it's because as sociopaths we are naturally aware of manipulation (to coin the phrase, "trying to con a con"). Not that we are immune to it, far from it to be fair, but we are predisposed to identifying it because we use it daily. Whether or not we choose to act different because of it is something else ("Make it a combo for only 89 cents more? You're upselling me, and I know the food is designed to make me more thirsty. But I want hydration anyways. Sucker away").
Which brings another question. Do you hate them because they're manipulative, or because they're neurotic?
kids in shitty families do not discover the nature of their parents psychiatric problems until they have been badly damaged themselves
Deletemany 'wake up' in their 40s and 50s and realize the lives they could have had were it not for having been emotionally trashed and treated like trash as a child
other relatives and siblings in shitty families like this learn to protect their own corner
frequently it is the eldest child that is the most damaged - winds up carrying "the cross of shame" for the shitty family
after 'awakening' to 'reality', hate is totally natural
your query is disingenuous as you well know
Children love their parents; then they judge them, but rarely forgive them.
DeleteIf one has identified psycho relatives its hard to ever "get back" to where these relations were before this knowledge came. Fact: standard psycho 1A (nonviolent everyday type) is a disgusting thing to have to "smalltalk" to, its a sick game where they try to trip everybody in subtle ways: creating embarrassing situations, degrade others & collect sensitive info so they can spread rumors afterwards & talk behind backs with intention to harm. Like sitting face to face with fusions between vulture/vipers and, for the sake of dear old innocent all-forgiving relatives just seeing good in everybody, not saying what should be said. DISGUSTING. And almost every (big) family has this internal problem.
DeleteThe most white-hot hatred probably occurs in families where "detection experts" on psychopathy (certain zodiac signs) resides and meet mentioned "1A standard-psychos". Most folks in such situations just will bawl the innocent-classic phrase "-But what have I done to them, I thought we were friends..boo-hoo!" The zodiac detection expert knows all about "the game". These alien viper-relatives are not here to chitchat, they are not here to nurture relations, they´re just here to "have fun" (at others expense). Some might call the detection expert a ruthless psycho himself, which is a mistake since his intentions are not to embarrass or degrade. But once "winded up" this human detector just patiently waits for the hour, in the future, when a certain cold dish, or several, will be served..
DeleteSpeaking of a "standard sociopath" (and by standard I am assuming akin to prototypical, not stereotypical), it is important to be careful. For example, spread rumours, talking behind backs of people with intention to harm implies malice. Or at a more basic level, anger and desire for power/control over them. That implies at some level an empathic response (in this case, a malaligned one) that ends up making a person feel good.
DeleteRemember, the manipulation of others in a prototypical sociopath is to achieve a goal (to fulfill a want or need), not necessarily for maladjusted entertainment. There needs to be some sort of reasoning behind it than a pure emotional high.
It's not that I don't feel good about it, it's just that I don't feel bad about it. Even if I was bored, the act must fulfill at least an interest or some gain.
Real psychopaths do lots of stuff which just satisfies themselves "emotionally": seeing others frightened or filled with impotent rage (without having the nerve to talk back) is like sweet candy for genuine hollow folks. Its FUN STUFF for them, they feel powerful when doing so. This is the core of a their being, not some unusual events.
DeleteThat is a common misconception. That is not psychopathy. You are referring to sadism.
DeleteSociopaths don't manipulate people to obtain an emotion high, they do it accomplish a goal for their benefit. If the receiver feels frightened or filled with impotent rage, it is as a consequence to what the manipulation had done to the receiver.
Let's say you had an apple. I wanted it. Because of this, I manipulate you to get the apple. You feel angry that I did it.
Sociopath: I now have an apple. I can now eat it.
Sadist: I feel good that you are suffering for it. I throw away the apple.
The sadist wants to make you suffer, because it feels good. The sociopath just wants the apple.
I'd have to agree with you on this one. I don't understand why there's a notable difference when a child gets harmed. I've similarly never understood why "Baby on board" makes any difference.
ReplyDeleteSo what, you've got a child on board? Should I be arbitrarily less inclined to rickshaw you off the road because of it?
The "Show Dogs on Board" sign really cracks me up.
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DeleteRE:"Baby on board" my thoughts exactly!!!
Are you a genuine article socio? How many people on here are the bona fide article (as opposed to fanboys like me) ?
If the "Baby on board" is a socio perspective then I'm beginning to think I could be the empath / socio missing link. This site will crack me up all day long. <3 I'm having such a good time one here.
Speaking as the anon who spoke of small-talk with the family, I was professionally-diagnosed years ago. This, coupled with multiple self-testing for recent verification, would qualify me as a "genuine" sociopath. As for everyone else? I am sure there are actual sociopaths here, but from the majority of postings I would say many of those who post are not. Which is fair enough, because it makes debate a lot more interesting and promotes a more balanced perspective.
DeleteFrom an evolutionary perspective - as in nature - it is clearly a dysfunction to be sexually attracted to prepubescent children. They do not exhibit the sexual characteristics apparent with someone developed. In nature, it makes sense when they are developed to be sexually attracted as this propagates reproduction and the survival of the species. By extension, a pedophile is not sexually functioning at a level that is conducive for the survival of the species. How does a species survive with that trait? They don't. I suppose you could also extend this rationale towards homosexuality, but to be fair there are additional factors involved (such as non-sexual intimacy and commitment).
As for the Baby on Board sign, I understand it as an empathic warning sign to illicit guilt to anyone who may force an action on the posted vehicle. It is a manipulation which is trying to force a moral behaviour. For me, I understand it just as well. Don't get me wrong, the sign doesn't pull at any heart strings for me, but I do understand it as not only a moral wrong but also a more basic wrong. Killing your own species, especially those not yet developed, is mostly dysfunctional. I say mostly, because there are instances in nature where this happens, but in those cases it is to promote the passing of potentially stronger genetic combinations (your own in this case, as the attacker). But that isn't the majority, since plenty of group/herd species (which we qualify as) can jealously protect other offspring in the group, nor is it a wholly-definitive excuse for cognitive creatures such as humans since we can step outside of the instinctual paradigm.
For me, moral compass aside, pedophilia is a dysfunction that isn't good for the species.
And I thought I'm the only one implying nature in logic.
DeleteI recall someone I suspect to be histrionic asking me why is pedophilia wrong. I presented several arguments, including the one you just presented, yet he kept asking "So what? Why?". Then I figured he tried to copy me when I would counter-argue issues, only pointlessly like that.
Yes, I find nature to be a beautiful manifestation of rationality and use it as an example to otherwise seemingly unrelated situations in life.
Emphasis on seemingly unrelated. Because in reality, much of behavior is just an evolution of more primitive responses.
DeleteYou could say that, but it's not what I meant.
DeleteTake prostitution. It doesn't exist in nature. In nature only the successful members of the species get to reproduce. Surely plenty of animal species have sex for non-reproductive purposes (outside heat season or even with same sex), but I am yet to witness a monkey giving another monkey a banana and get sexual favors in return.
Mankind bypassed many mechanisms of natural selection, this is just one of them.
Now, when other people try to use nature as an argument, it will somehow come out flawed - meaning, something is "natural" to them only when it suits them. Like when catholic priests say homosexuality is unnatural (and celibacy is?).
My favorite is when (heterosexual) men state that monogamy is unnatural (I assume they seek approval to their infidelity). They tell that a male must spread his semen at all opportunity and things like that. I counter that argument with "You're absolutely right! Monogamy is unnatural! It's best for the species if a human female, in this day and age, to marry a good provider and family man (ie - a nice accountant with an even nicer paycheck) and have offspring with a typical alpha male (good looking, fun, strong "bad boy"), enjoying both good providing for her and her offspring and better genes than those of the weak tempered, fluorescent tanned office geek".
After this answer they're usually left stunned. The term "impotent rage" suddenly gets a new meaning. I like to think they run to get a paternity test for their kids right after.
Heh.
Actually, prostitution in nature. It exists in penguins and chimpanzees.
DeleteInfact, rape exists in nature as well. Male ducks will commonly rape female ducks.
Also, is it proper to mix monogomistic societal values with nature? It is, in fact, natural to be polygamous.
DeletePolygamy is advantageous in nature because you increase reproduction and chances of survival of the species. Not just in numbers, but also in the inherent increases in genetic variation which lead to a greater number of successful offspring.
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DeleteI'm not sure what you mean when you say "prostitution" in nature. Is it the Emperor Penguin, who is being the sole caretaker of the chick? Lots of animals have parental duties that don't fit with mankind's "traditional setting", which will often bring people into "concluding" things out of it.
I noticed how people, using the nature argument, will compare a male member of a (random) animal species that will feed a female, or give her some kind of token, to themselves when they, let's say, buy a girl dinner on a date, in hope to achieve sex, thinking the sex comes in return and compare that to prostitution. In nature things are far more utilized as when it comes to tokens. It's usually the male proving his skills for providing for the female and the offspring, since many animals care for their brood together, which is essential when offspring require a lot of care being born "underdeveloped" and completely dependent.
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I'm not sure what you mean by "prostitution" in nature. I know people will confuse animal behavior by trying to reflect it on their own. When male animals give female animals tokens, it's to exhibit their ability to provide for her and the offspring, which can be very dependent and helpless until maturing, requiring lots of time, energy and resources from their parental unit. The monogamy and "proof of providing" is more common with animals who's offspring are such. Some animals expanded providing beyond the parental unit and babysit (like elephants and dolphins). I know lots of monkey species will share responsibility for offspring, simply because their mating season is like a roman orgy and no one knows which child is their own so they go by "it might be mine" to take care of all.
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DeleteI'm not sure what you mean when you say "prostitution" in nature. Can you explain?
And since not all animals are polygamous, yet the non-polygamous are still here so there is logic behind their strategy. Some offspring are born very dependent on their parental unit, thus consuming their entire time and energy. If these species would act like cats, where the male does his job and goes away, the offspring would not survive depending on the female alone.
As for monkeys, a lot of them share the caring for the offspring, providing "babysitting" and "nursing", simply because their mating season looks like a Roman orgy so they use the "I might be the baby daddy" logic.
...Which brings me to the next point. Humans are born as underdeveloped as larva. They're completely dependent on their parents, sometimes more than the parents. The human is indeed the most "nest staying" animal in the animal kingdom and that requires a lot of energy and resources, to raise this "cub" and put it on its own two feet. For "higher" species of animals, surviving, prospering and procreating is not enough - they must make sure their offspring are fully grown and equipped with the skills to survive, prosper and, eventually, procreate themselves, to keep the genetic legacy going.
This is where polygamy in humans can go "off". Humans have a sense of jealousy. Not the kind one feels over what the other possesses, but a special kind of jealousy saved for partnership. Men and women, essentially, are jealous for different reasons and they're entirely biological, thus do make sense even when there seems to be none.
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DeleteI'm not sure what you mean when you say "prostitution" in nature. Can you explain?
And since not all animals are polygamous, yet the non-polygamous are still here so there is logic behind their strategy. Some offspring are born very dependent on their parental unit, thus consuming their entire time and energy. If these species would act like cats, where the male does his job and goes away, the offspring would not survive depending on the female alone.
As for monkeys, a lot of them share the caring for the offspring, providing "babysitting" and "nursing", simply because their mating season looks like a Roman orgy so they use the "I might be the baby daddy" logic.
...Which brings me to the next point. Humans are born as underdeveloped as larva. They're completely dependent on their parents, sometimes more than the parents. The human is indeed the most "nest staying" animal in the animal kingdom and that requires a lot of energy and resources, to raise this "cub" and put it on its own two feet. For "higher" species of animals, surviving, prospering and procreating is not enough - they must make sure their offspring are fully grown and equipped with the skills to survive, prosper and, eventually, procreate themselves, to keep the genetic legacy going.
This is where polygamy in humans can go "off". Humans have a sense of jealousy. Not the kind one feels over what the other possesses, but a special kind of jealousy saved for partnership. Men and women, essentially, are jealous for different reasons and they're entirely biological, thus do make sense even when there seems to be none.
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DeleteA man will be jealous of his woman, because that primal instinct brings out the same fears as what I described above, with the parental test. Until not long ago mankind had no sure way knowing "who's the baby daddy", stranding many men to take care of a child that might not be their own.
With women it's similar but different. The woman fears the male, being potentially able to "spread his semen" and "inseminate" several females in one night - while she can only bare one of nature's longest and enduring pregnancies - might end up taking choosing to care for another woman's offspring rather than their own, or even simultaneously, and thus depriving her and her offspring of his time, energy and resources, putting her offspring at a disadvantage.
Although one can run a paternity test today and men and women can use birth control, the sense of jealousy still remains, even if there are no children even planned. It's an instinct. It doesn't have to make sense.
Polygamy is not always advantageous. "Spreading your semen" might not prove as efficient in the human species as it would in, let's say, the Sunfish, that lays 2 million eggs at a time. Humans, being complex creatures, not only require a lot of time, energy and resources to be grown to survive, prospect and procreate, but also the genetic variation factor plays a role.
You know Iceland has the highest rate of breast cancer in the world? The world average is 1 in 7-8, while in Iceland it's 1 in 4. How so? Turns out they isolated the gene causing it, and traced it back to a man who immigrated from Norway some 100 years ago, and, as evidence show, had a lot of offspring. The fact 1 in 4 women on the island carries his defected gene, shows that he was "successful" in some terms (by managing to procreate with a lot of females), but this success, on the long run is a ruin. Plus, in nature, there's not really such a thing as "social security", and females who's "baby daddy" bailed on them, are left to provide on their own, or with the help of their "group" or "tribe", if they volunteer to do so.
When in humans, one male creates an entire population in generation to carry his genetic profile, this not only spreads any defect he had in his genome, but increases the chances for incest. Now, I don't need to explain you why incest is wrong, even (some) animals keep systems to avoid mating with relatives. Humans, being such complex creatures, that a "narrow" genetic profile can create series of defects.
DeleteYou can witness it happening with populations where both polygamy and cousin/uncle marriages are practiced. No need to say these populations are well behind. I have read an article on the increase of genetic diseases, both physical and mental, in the UK, and it clearly stated that this occurs in specific populations, to the point where these populations are responsible for 1/3 of all such defects in the country, while being only some 2% of the general population.
Success is not always measured in numbers. It's essentially why you'll find that poor people and extremely religious people (usually goes hand in hand) will have lots of children, while more successful parents will have just few. The more successful are so because they prefer investment of time, energy and resources in their young - rather than making procreating a lottery and filling as many tickets as one can to increase the chance of winning. Note that even though poverty is not genetic, or even a natural occurrence, it tends to be "inherited".
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ReplyDeleteHoly Spellcasting, Batman! We've got another looney tune on the board!
ReplyDeleteThis pic is a microcosm of religion - people bonding on fear and hate. RE:"Valuable" - LOL, this is why I love socios. I think it's common for empaths (of which I am one - I would fail at pulling a reversal in hiding amongst you socios, don't start about "double standards", I understand and can appreciate how frustrating it must be to be forced to blend with us illogical conforming-obsessed empaths - and i'm sort of 50/50 myself as a left-brained analytical thinking, now please excuse the intro buried in an oversized, abused parenthetical runon )... i'm resetting this sentence. I think it's common for empaths to feel fine killing so long as 1) many others agree with them , 2) the number of layers / distance between them and the kill is sufficiently indirect so they are insulated from the act itself, and 3) they have a formal process driving (government) the matter by a respected entity which is in a position of authority (see the "Milgram experiment" http://www.simplypsychology.org/milgram.html)
ReplyDeleteAbout #2, I think drone warfare is so sustainable as a policy because of the US's level of removal from the actual deaths. Many people thing drone warfare is entirely automated. Dehumanizing people is another element used in war (and here). The enemy, muslim terrorists in pakistan's case and child molesters in the above case are not seen entirely as human by the people who fear them and want to exact punishment. This is a matter of cognitive, *empathetic* distance where they've willfully downgraded their own empathy so they can carry out these acts upon something (some PEOPLE) they've defined as "evil".
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I believe you are referring to apathy when talking about intentional killing. An empathy would only kill if absolutely necessary or if they had a psychotic break. Yes Stanley Millgram's Obedience to Authority is awesome. That is the conundrum....the majority will either enable a sociopath or look the other way. Sheeple........up thread anon...nice description of a sociopath at family events.
DeleteAlso, don't forget the Stanford Prison Experiment by Zimbardo. Ordinary empaths can do extraordinarily amoral things.
DeletePedophilia is clearly not about LOVE-it is about power and the helplessness or vulnerability of the child. The fact that Pedophilia seems to have a contagious component (Abused frequently become abusers or internalize the process and become self abusers engaging in self harm or addiction.), it seems method of quaranteen is required Chemical csatration doesnt work as the genitals are nort the areas where the problem is located, but the brain. Child abusers seem to want to inflict their own soiled damaged psyches on others, as if by so doing will alleviate their own self hatred- but any respite is short lived and is a case of magical thinking-doing the same thing over again becomes addictive, like serial killers of the OCD sufferer, as if in getting it JUST right will fix everything and the pain and existential horror will suddenly be lifted. It never is. So we need to isolate, until the far reaches of sci-fi neuroscience gives us a realistic method of re writing the nervous system...
ReplyDeleteI don't think it's about power so much as the common knowledge that rape is about power where the target is an adult. (by "rape", I mean actual forceful rape, not "Statutory", or as I like calling it amongst friends, "mustachutory")
DeleteI think the kid thing is about connecting to their childhood. (there is a sexual fetish where men get in diapers and cry and play with baby toys) Or in the case of catholic priests: a handy outlet for badly pent up and repressed sexual energy that blows up on them forcing them to grab what they can on a whim that they think they can control enough to shut them up. But with the priests, I think it's also about rebellion against a persistent moral weight on them imposed by the ever present magic boogie god who is spying one their thoughts. They are making a fast break from the psychology of totalitarianism to establish a kind of mental self-talk version of a declaration of independence.
Thing with priests I think relates to that nasty monotheistic trick, they can behave like the most disgusting bullying arseholes and rape their way thru the choir all in the knowledge that after confession its like it never happened, and the Vatican or local bishop will just move them on to fresh fields.
DeleteTheir was a case of a guy who went ape with a gun in an Amish girls school-had a bag of sex toys, I always thought he was trying to exorcise the pedophile inside, letting it out so he could kill it, and the kids where just collateral damage.
Also with the priest thing, they are repressed, and as sex and achieving religious states are close if not identical in terms of brain mechanics they confuse the two. As monotheistic religions are often about denying actual religious states (and leaving them in the hands of the company men-Priests,Rabbis, Imams etc and then only in very restricted ways.,) as well as sexual transcendence its is no surprise that these areas become confused and obsessive and pathological in the priests blocked up nervous system.
DeletepIl, I believe you've only described one layer to pedophilia. Not all who been abused will become abusers (tho some experts say it's 1 out of 3), as not all abusers were once abused.
DeleteIn forensics, they have several "classifications" to pedophiles, mostly in accordance to the nature of the crime.
1) Some are sexually attracted to children, period.
2) Some are "opportunists" - they'd diddle a hole in the wall but a child was there so they seized the opportunity.
3) Maladjusted socially as well as sexually - they can't approach an adult for sexual purposes for a variety of reasons. For example, they find it easier to communicate with children since their own personality is stuck at a child's level of development (could also be retardation, some convicted pedophiles are retarded), making them both undesirable for adults and the adults to seem too "complex" for them.
4) There's another subtype I can't quite remember right now.
The idea with the priests has been debated in and out and is still relevant and is interesting.
A lot of us will agree that one of the key reasons priests sexually assault children is the simple truth of trying to bridle a primal drive/impulse to complete extinguish (as opposed to limitation), is bound to result in chaotic outburst. It is witnessed so in many religious societies where sex is largely restricted. It simply gets another outlet, usually more dark and profane.
Celibacy was officially accepted throughout the church in the 11th century. Before that priests were allowed to marry, at least to a certain rank. In the Russian Orthodox Church they still marry up to a rank. The idea of celibacy actually has reason, tho not entirely of "chaste" nature. In some cultures eunuchs were entrusted with responsibilities and powerful positions, not just guarding harems. Why? Simple. A eunuch is not only unlikely to be distracted by sexual desires, but is also out of the race to be succumbed to nepotism.
With clergy having much power and influence in society in the middle ages, it only made sense to make them celibate, to avoid them passing on their power to offspring. Why not castration, like practiced in the east? I think there's that excuse of making them fight their own carnal desires, as opposed to be freed from them with a slash of a gelding knife.
But the story is older than the children being abused these days. Correct me if I'm wrong, but wasn't it Martin Luther, the (accidental) father of the protestant church, who went on a pilgrimage to Rome to only find out that the holiest men are rolling in the unholiest filth and that in Rome they even had special brothels for that "special" clientele... It was his shock of that discovery for the hypocrisy and double standards of clergy, especially such in high position, that eventually led to what later turned into a civil war and separation of the church into two entities.
I doubt priests only target children, but children certainly are the easiest prey. They're quick to trust and later also quicker to realize that no one will believe them and to keep it a secret. I mean, I'm pretty sure the priests who took the role as inquisitors, who forcefully converted Jews and Pagans, were "punishing their bishop" under the table, while torturing people to make false confessions and whatnot.
Dog attacks happen out of fear, and the fact that someone wasn't paying attention. Pedophilia is a sexual preference for children. Rape is not pedophilia.
ReplyDeleteAnd who is scarred for life? I'm not defending bad behaviour, but seriously since when do we think its okay for people to be scarred for life because of these things?
ReplyDeleteIf the victim is scarred for life, does the offender deserve death?
ReplyDeleteIt's hard to understand because all life is equally worthless to you
ReplyDeleteNot worthless, just worth differently depending on the situation, the necessity, and the outlook. People have value in their utility to not only to me, but society and themselves.
ReplyDeleteAlso, what if the offender could be rehabilitated so as to not do it again?
Too see if they really are rehabilitated, means taking the risk that they may assault another child. As opposed to, let's say, relapsing alcoholics - most of which would end up passed out drunk in a gutter and miss a few days work, then come crying about it in their AA meeting.
DeletePlus it's not like a pedophile would come forward and tell his "rehabilitator" he had a "relapse". They'd say anything to convince whoever is trying to rehabilitate them that they're "cured".
I keep getting reminded on Clockword Orange in this context (as well as others), with the main character, Alex, going through his rehabilitation.
That risk is inherent in anyone who commits any kind of crime, not just pedophilia. By that virtue, anyone who commits any kind of felony should just be executed. Why let them live? You stick them in prison until release - but if rehabilitation is too much of a risk, why keep repeating the prison cycle until their death? Would it not make more sense to just kill them, instead of wasting billions of dollars?
DeleteIn the end, it is because it's not a concern about rehabilitation. It isn't even legitimate justification of killing them. It's about making people not feel bad about just killing them. Prisons exist in today's society for three reasons: 1) to stop further harm from happening to people and society, and 2) to make people feel safe by compartmentalizing the offenders, and 3) to make a profit.
It is a key concept that prohibits any rehabilitation (even research into developing rehabilitation). It is almost non-existent today, even for lesser crimes (which have the great probability of successful rehabilitation while simultaneously low risk. It would make sense to alleviate #1, because by rehabilitating someone further harm ceases to be inflicted when the offender is released. However, it does not make sense for #2, and certainly not for #3. Your concern falls under category #2. Which is fine, because in general people are more concerned about #2 than #1. They might convince themselves and others that it is not, but it is because of their actions and inactions. What people actually do is eminently more important than what they believe.
That isn't to say the majority of people are exclusively at fault. It is significantly exacerbated by a minority of people due to #3.
It continually surprises me to see the discontinuity between what people think, and what they do. #2 sets a dangerous condition. More-so than even #3, because to get profit #2 is required as a precondition.
I'm trying to place things in order...
DeletePunishment serves purposes in society.
1) Revenge - I could expand but I see no point.
2) Isolation (or compartmentalizing, as you put it) and risk reduction.
3) Largely irrelevant because many countries don't have private prisons.
As for rehabilitation... The core lies in the nature of the crime. Rehabilitating a drug addict is different from rehabilitating a burglar. Rehabilitating a sex offender is even more complex.
Surveys shown that criminals who had completed their GED's in prison were less likely to repeat the offenses they had committed and fit better in society. For example.
Sex offenders are different by all means. You understand there's quite some difference between releasing a burglar to the street - who might steal stuff - and a sexual predator who might repeat or even escalate.
I have/had a passion for forensics, and I compared patterns in different cultures and geographic areas. I saw some areas were likely to have sex offenders to escalate after release - regardless to if they been through a rehabilitation program or not. By escalation I mean disposing of the victim altogether.
As for the discontinuity - I see it all the time. It kind of puzzles me. You ever had an environmentalist "pioneer", at work or elsewhere, preaching to everyone? Oddly enough, they'll still use disposable paper cups for their coffee. I don't even think they notice it.
The making a profit aspect is not serious-the idea that a prison, especially one dealing in the area of sex offenders can be run on a profit basis is absurd. Maybe less so with other crimes, but certainly with sex attacks on children people would rather 1 and 2 where prioritised. Treatment of sex offenders clearly has a long way to go-sex crimes and paedophilia especially seems to have roots in the brain and not in the sex organs. Colin Wilson has written on the sexual criminal and his 'soul', and some of the existential rootes of such acts.
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My Success Story: And i am so happy to spread the news on the internet for those that need real and a reliable spell caster to contact without meeting with various fake and rip off spell casters online first just the way i came in-contact with like 4 fake spell caster online before now. I will start my success story by introducing myself to the entire world and were i am from. I am Arrozal Bernadette by name a citizen of USA that was in so much depression, frustration and confusion before i came in-contact with this spell caster that helped me solve my problem and made me happy once more. Late last year, to be preside October 16 2013, I had a problem with my relationship, So because of that i have to quit the my boyfriend / husband and move on to another man i fell in love with again outside after i have left Matthew the following week. Matthew really tried for me as he showed me real love, by playing with me all the time when i return from work, so good to me when is bed time, In-fact he was really a nice man. But due to the fact that sometimes he complains on so many things to much i had to seek for a divorce and i left him alone and went ahead with life. This new man i meant was caring at first and also lovely. But as time pass-by, I found out that this new man only loved me all just because i had a very good Job as all he want to do to me is to run away with my money and claim so many of my assets. I noticed this late November same year and i went down with depression and burst into tears and i was regretting ever seeking for a divorce to leave Matthew because i really started missing Matthew in my life to the extent that i was calling his cellphone but he was not taking up my calls. As the only time i hear from him is when he will send me a text message were he will be telling me that he do not want me anymore as he is in love with his new girlfriend as they are even planing of getting married first week of December Thanks to Mrs Stefany that introduced me to this great spell caster called Dr Ajayi that is so trustful and reliable in all his works and spell casting. His email is as follows: ajayiololo@yahoo.com .
ReplyDeleteMy name is Gladys Wholers, am from England, what a wonderful and a straight forward spell caster that has brought back joy and happiness into my life after i saw a post on how he helped a lady called Cassandra,i decided to contact him for help when i told this God sent man DR SHAKES SPEAR on how my lover left me for 2 years without calling nor texting me,When i shared this my sad experience with DR SHAKES SPEAR he said everything would be okay within 2 days i was like am i sure what this man is saying is real,So i decided to give a try and i what even surprised me the most at first i was also thinking he was a scam i taught he was like other spell caster who come online to add pain to peoples pain not knowing there feelings but to make money,But this great man DR SHAKES SPEAR is never like that his own is for good and make people to be happy with the one they love,Am just so happy,Even before the 3 days i just got a call from a man who has left me for 2 years saying he his sorry and that he wants me back to his life i was so happy,He invited me for a dinner which i meant him there and we bought talked and he said he wants to prove that he would never leave me for any other lady he engaged me and also make me had access to all his account am so happy all thanks goes to this great man DR SHAKES SPEAR a man who has brought back joy to my life,Please friends that needs help i would advice and swear that DR SHAKES SPEAR is the right man and not those fake ones who are online to make money and not to help here is DR SHAKES SPEAR "his private email: shakesspear23@yahoo.com OR shakesspear23@gmail.com
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ReplyDeleteAm giving this testimony cos am happy
My name is Shakira Elliot from Houston,taxes.i never believed in love spells or magic until i met this spell caster once. when i went to Africa in June 28th 2013 this year on a business summit. i ment a man called DR SHAKES SPEAR. He is powerful he could help you cast a spells to bring back my love’s gone,misbehaving lover looking for some one to love you, bring back lost money and magic money spell or spell for a good job.i’m now happy & a living testimony cos the man i had wanted to marry left me 3 weeks before our wedding and my life was upside down cos our relationship has been on for 2 years… i really loved him, but his mother was against me and he had no good paying job. so when i met this spell caster, i told him what happened and explained the situation of things to him..at first i was undecided,skeptical and doubtful, but i just gave it a try. and in 6 days when i returned to taxes, my boyfriend (is now my husband ) he called me by himself and came to me apologizing that everything had been settled with his mom and family and he got a new job interview so we should get married..i didn’t believe it cos the spell caster only asked for my name and my boyfriends name and all i wanted him to do… well we are happily married now and we are expecting our little kid,and my husband also got a new job and our lives became much better. in case anyone needs the spell caster for some help, email address: shakesspear23@yahoo.com OR shakesspear23@gmail.com
GREAT SHAKES SPEAR i thank you very much thank you in 1000000 times.. if not you i would have been losted and wasted thank you. Email Him Through his email address... shakesspear23@yahoo.com OR shakesspear23@gmail.com
please make sure you contact him for any financial difficulties okay..
What a powerful man such as DR SHAKES SPEAR.. he is so much powerful..\\ email him for any difficulties.. shakesspear23@yahoo.com OR shakesspear23@gmail.com
Reading SLY SLIMMERS article about a spell caster namely Shakes Spear was, i will say the best that ever happen to me this year based on the fact that i had a lot problem that i was trying to over come.I had problems at home which affected my work greatly. I was now always in a cross fire with my boss.I really don't want to tell story here so i guess i would just go strange to the point on what i have to say.My wife wanted out of our marriage for no just reason.We were married for four year and i think we were happy though we had no kids, it was her idea not to have any cos she wasn't ready to be a mom yet and i was okay with it i mean i didn't like the idea but i went along with it just to please her.It was always like that i mean she always get what she wants.All i wanted was to see her happy i could never do anything that will make her so unhappy.This was all i did wrong that is make her have it her way all the time. I mean that was the reason she gave during our therapy session.She wanted out of the marriage cos i was to nice. From what she said, i was the kind of man ever woman will die for but she wanted a real man to enforce his will no her meaning was i was to week a man for her.And that was the least of therapy session we had cos like she said we where wasting our life together and no amount of therapy was going to get us back together.I was a total mess thinking of how i was being dumped based on how much i loved my wife and how good i treated her,I really didn't know if she was ungrateful or just confused about what she wanted that is mid-life crisis but the bottom line is that she left me and who knows maybe for another man.I was still in love with her, she was the love of my life and i still wanted her to come back that was when i saw Eva-Yolanda article on Shakes Spear.When i contacted him he made me known that i will have to go through all the spell casting process.Like he said most people are too scared cos of trust issues.I had trust issues, but getting my wife back was my ulterior motive and from my experience with Shakes Spear i can tell you he is 100% truthful and honest with his customer.I was asked to get some material to prepare the spell and after which he sent me a package contain the spell and the rest just happen the way it was suppose to happen i got my wife back and she was my wife back again i mean she was not that woman who wanted a hard man she was woman i fell in love with who loved me cos i am me.If you want help or fell he can help contact him with his email address shakesspear23@yahoo.com OR shakesspear23@gmail.com..... ONCE AGAIN HIS EMAIL ADDRESS IS: shakesspear23@yahoo.com OR shakesspear23@gmail.com
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ReplyDeletemy name is Kim i want to testify about a great spell caster that help me cast a spell that brought my ex boyfriend back to me without any delay. I broke up with my ex with just little misunderstanding hoping we will get back shortly,but things was growing worse until i contacted Dr Kala .spell priest who help me with his historical powers to bring him back, without charging me any money for his work, i have never believed in a spell caster until i came across Dr Kala spell home, Well it will be of great sin if i should go out from here without dropping the contact of this great spell caster,in case you need the help of this great spell caster you can contact him through his email once you contact him all your problems will be over,once again i say very big thanks to you sir for helping me to recover my ex back, and please sir keep your good work cause people need your helping hand in their lives.once more contact him on his email:kalaspellhome55@gmail.com Bye Bye
Thank you drsacura from DRSACURATEMPLE@HOTMAIL.COM you are the best
ReplyDeletespell caster that i have ever seen in my life the spell you casted for me
have work very perfectly my ex boyfriend who left me for over 3weeks now is
back and apologizing for me to come back to him that he is very sorry for
the pain he cost me and i am so happy Doctor your spell is nice and make me
fill alive again i will keep sharing you good work all over the world about
the good spell you cast for me to get Alex back and i will also give your
email address to everybody who is in need of help like you told me that you
can cast a spell to bring ex back, Money spell, Protection spell, lotto
spell, Good job spell, You want to have a baby spell, Love spell, and many
other spell you told me you can cast for me if i need them i hope you will
find a place to help other so they can give testimonies like me. Doctor
sacura please help others many people are having problem try to get help
from people but there is nobody like you to help them solve their problem
like you do Dr sacura if anyone need the help of this nice man contact
him via this email DRSACURATEMPLE@HOTMAIL.COM best regards to Dr
sacura your child Ruth from USA
hanks to Shakes Spear as he is a great spell caster who brought back my lover.....
ReplyDeleteI want to tell everyone about my meeting with Prophet Shakes Spear who was able to bring back my ex lover within the period of 2days... At these moment i don't have anything to say than to appreciate the good works of Prophet Shakes Spear who you can simply reach at: shakesspear23@yahoo.com OR shakesspear23@gmail.com
1. He has got charms/spell to take away bad luck & give good luck in life
2. He fix broken relationships, marriages
3. He treats Beareness
4. He fight evil/ witchcraft/ ghost/bad spell/curses/bad dreams& cleans homes.
5. He bring back lost lover/family
6. He Makes court cases/divorces/bad debts to disappear.
7. He has herbs for losing weight
8. He solve financial and domestic difficulties
9. He has a spell charm to bring back stolen goods.
10. He has got a sale quick potions to boost customers in business.
11. He can make you gain promotions at work place.
12. He can make your admired partner to be yours.
13. He has herbs to make long live with HIV
14. He has something to make you have lot of children.
15. He has a spell/charms that can make you have a good job.
16. He can stop someone to interfere in your love relationship/family
17. He has mixtures of herbs for sexual weakness.
18. He has herbs to enlarge your sexual system to satisfy your partner.
19. He cure madness/stress/addictions/long illnesses.
20. He treat sexual transmitted infections quickly.
21. He has lucky spells/charm to increase your wealthy.
22. He has charms for gambling/lotto/ casinos.
23. He has powerful herbs for curing early ejaculations.
24. he has charms to protect away from car robbers/hijacker/properties attack& Etc
contact me of any of these today at: shakesspear23@yahoo.com OR shakesspear23@gmail.com ..... WE GOT SOLUTION TO ALL PROBLEMS HERE ...
Hello To The World At Large,
ReplyDeleteI am Miss Wacks.,From united states of America.I will start by saying to all that have experience heart break and also cant do with out there lover should please stop here and read up my story, So as you will know how to go solving or getting your ex back from this spell caster..AND AGAIN I WILL WANT TO ALSO TELL ALL THAT THIS SPELL CASTER I WILL WANT TO TELL THE WHOLE WORLD ABOUT IS HARMLESS AND DO NOT HAVE ANY SIDE EFFECT, BUT TO RESTORE AND GIVE YOU BACK WHAT YOU DESERVE, COS WHEN I MEET WITH THIS SPELL CASTER THAT WAS INTRODUCED TO ME BY THE WIFE OF MY BOSS IN MY WORKING PLACE, HE MADE IT CLEAR THAT HE CAN CAST SPELL ON SO MANY OTHER PROBLEMS EXCEPT IN GETTING YOUR EX OR MAKING YOUR LOVER TO LOVE YOU MORE THAT WILL SUITE YOU. Last year December, My lover was cheating on me and was not also give me the attention that a man should give to a woman,And really that was troubling my mind and tearing my heart apart to the extent that i was not concentrating in the office the way i use to before the break up by my lover.And before that incident,I always see how my boss use to love his wife so much. I was binging to think that i was not doing the right thing to him that will make him love me forever,So i really gathered my courage and went to my boss wife office to ask her the secret that made her husband love her so dearly,In the first place she refused in telling me,She asked me why i am asking her such a question,That if is it not normal for every man to love his wife.I told her the reason that made me ask her about this question,That my lover started cheating on me lately,When i knelt down before her for her to see my seriousness in this issue that i went to ask her,She opened up to me by telling me that i should not tell anybody about what she want to tell me,The wife to my boss started to say to me that she used a very powerful spell on his husband to love her,And the spell that she used is harmless, But the spell is just to make him love her and never to look for any other woman except her. I QUICKLY ASK HER HOW DID SHE GET TO KNOW THIS GREAT,POWER,DURABLE AND PERFECT WORK SPELL CASTER,she said that a friend of hers also introduce her to him. Then i also ask her how i can meet with this spell caster.SHE SAID EVERYTHING TO ME,THAT THE NAME OF THIS SPELL CASTER IS SHAKES SPEAR ORACLE TEMPLE.My next question to her was how can i get this wonderful spell caster,She said she is going to give me the email of the spell caster for me to contact him for my problem,Really she gave to me this spell caster email and i contacted him and explained all to him,And after every thing that needed to be done by the spell caster, In the next two days, My lover that hated me so much came to house begging for forgiveness and i was so glad that i have finally gotten my heart desire..I was so grateful to this spell caster for what he has done for my life.. So i made a promise to him that i will always continue telling the world about his wonderful work towards me and also to other that came to you before and also the people that will also get to you from my story that i narrated online now..I will want to say to the entire world that you should not cry over noting again, That there is a great man that has been helping individuals to restore there Joy and smile in there faces !! The direct email to get this man is : shakesspear23@yahoo.com OR shakesspear23@gmail.com ,This is what i want to tell you all out there,That is thinking that all hope is lost ok.CONTACT SHAKES SPEAR TODAY:: shakesspear23@yahoo.com OR shakesspear23@gmail.com .Thanks
Regards,
Miss Wacks.
My Name is AZIBA OLUBOISE. I never believed in Love Spells or Magics until I met this special spell caster when i contact this man called johnyiyi@rocketmail.com Execute some business..He is really powerful..My wife divorce me with no reason for almost 4 years and i tried all i could to have her back cos i really love her so much but all my effort did not work out.. we met at our early age at the college and we both have feelings for each other and we got married happily for 5 years with no kid and she woke up one morning and she told me she’s going on a divorce..i thought it was a joke and when she came back from work she tender to me a divorce letter and she packed all her loads from my house..i ran mad and i tried all i could to have her back but all did not work out..i was lonely for almost 4 years…So when i told the spell caster what happened he said he will help me and he asked for her full name and her picture..i gave him that..At first i was skeptical but i gave it a try cos have tried so many spell casters and there is no solution…so when he finished with the readings,he got back to me that she’s with a man and that man is the reason why she left me…The spell caster said he will help me with a spell that will surely bring her back.but i never believe all this…he told me i will see a positive result within 3 days..3 days later,she called me herself and came to me apologizingI NEVER BELIEVED IN LOVE SPELLS UNTIL I MET THIS WORLD'S TOP SPELL CASTER. HE IS REALLY POWERFUL AND COULD HELP CAST SPELLS TO BRING BACK ONE'S GONE,LOST,MISBEHAVING LOVER AND MAGIC MONEY SPELL OR SPELL FOR A GOOD JOB.I'M NOW HAPPY & A LIVING TESTIMONY COS THE WOMAN I HAD WANTED TO MARRY LEFT ME 2 WEEKS BEFORE OUR WEDDING AND MY LIFE WAS UPSIDE DOWN COS OUR RELATIONSHIP HAS BEEN ON FOR 2YEARS... I REALLY LOVED HIM, BUT HIS MOTHER WAS AGAINST US AND HE HAD NO GOOD PAYING JOB. SO WHEN I MET THIS SPELL CASTER, I TOLD HIM WHAT HAPPENED AND EXPLAINED THE SITUATION OF THINGS TO HIM..AT FIRST I WAS UNDECIDED,SKEPTICAL AND DOUBTFUL, BUT I JUST GAVE IT A TRY. AND IN 7 DAYS WHEN I RETURNED TO USA, MY GIRLFRIEND(NOW WIFE) CALLED ME BY HERSELF AND CAME TO ME APOLOGIZING THAT EVERYTHING HAD BEEN SETTLED WITH HIS MOM AND FAMILY AND SHE GOT A NEW JOB INTERVIEW SO WE SHOULD GET MARRIED..I DIDN'T BELIEVE IT COS THE SPELL CASTER ONLY ASKED FOR MY NAME AND MY GIRLFRIENDS NAME AND ALL I WANTED HIM TO DO... WELL WE ARE HAPPILY MARRIED NOW AND WE ARE EXPECTING OUR LITTLE KID,AND MY WIFE ALSO GOT THE NEW JOB AND OUR LIVES BECAME MUCH BETTER. IN CASE ANYONE NEEDS THE SPELL CASTER FOR SOME HELP, HIS EMAIL ADDRESS IS;shakesspear23@yahoo.com OR shakesspear23@gmail.com ......HOPE HE HELPS YOU OUT OUR OPPORTUNITY ... CONTACT THIS GREAT SPELL CASTER VIA EMAIL:shakesspear23@yahoo.com OR shakesspear23@gmail.com...
ReplyDeleteMy Name is Dan Anelos ..I never believed in Love Spells or Magics until I met this special spell caster when i contact this man called shakesspear23@yahoo.com Execute some business..He is really powerful..My wife divorce me with no reason for almost 4 years and i tried all i could to have her back cos i really love her so much but all my effort did not work out.. we met at our early age at the college and we both have feelings for each other and we got married happily for 5 years with no kid and she woke up one morning and she told me she’s going on a divorce..i thought it was a joke and when she came back from work she tender to me a divorce letter and she packed all her loads from my house..i ran mad and i tried all i could to have her back but all did not work out..i was lonely for almost 4 years…So when i told the spell caster what happened he said he will help me and he asked for her full name and her picture..i gave him that..At first i was skeptical but i gave it a try cos have tried so many spell casters and there is no solution…so when he finished with the readings,he got back to me that she’s with a man and that man is the reason why she left me…The spell caster said he will help me with a spell that will surely bring her back.but i never believe all this…he told me i will see a positive result within 3 days..3 days later,she called me herself and came to me apologizing and she told me she will come back to me..I cant believe this,it was like a dream cos i never believe this will work out after trying many spell casters and there is no solution..The spell caster is so powerful and after that he helped me with a pregnancy spell and my wife got pregnant a month later..we are now happy been together again and with lovely kid..This spell caster has really changed my life and i will forever thankful to him..he has helped many friends too with similar problem too and they are happy and thankful to him..This man is indeed the most powerful spell caster have ever experienced in life..Am Posting this to the Forum in case there is anyone who has similar problem and still looking for a way out..you can reach him here:shakesspear23@yahoo.com OR shakesspear23@gmail.com... CONTACT THIS GREAT AND POWERFUL SPELL CASTER CALLED SHAKES SPEAR ... HIS EMAIL ADDRESS IS :shakesspear23@yahoo.com OR shakesspear23@gmail.com... CONTACT HIM NOW AND BE FAST ABOUT IT SO HE CAN ALSO ATTEND TO YOU BECAUSE THE EARLIER YOU CONTACT HIM NOW THE BETTER FOR YOU TO GET QUICK SOLUTION TO ALL YOUR PROBLEMS...
ReplyDeletecasters on this site, and I decide to choose two out of the many of them to see if their spell is real. I am testifying back now that JOHN SPELL is a powerful spell caster, his spell works for me just within 3days. My ex is back and we are living together happily. Thanks to you shakesspear23@yahoo.com OR shakesspear23@gmail.com. You have really proven to me that these testimonies about you is real.CAN NEVER STOP TALKING ABOUT YOU SIR HIS EMAIL ADDRESS IS:shakesspear23@yahoo.com OR shakesspear23@gmail.com CONTACT HIM NOW FOR SOLUTION TO ALL YOUR PROBLEMS
ReplyDeleteMy Name is Peace..I never believed in Love Spells or Magics until I met this special spell caster once when i went to Africa to Execute some business..He is really powerful.The woman i wanted to marry left me 3 weeks to our weeding ceremony and my life was upside down.she was with me for 3 years and i really love her so much..she left me for another man with no reason..when i called her she never picked up my calls and she don’t want to see me around her…so,when i told the man what happened.he helped me to do some readings,and after the readings he made me to realize that the other man has done some spells over my wife and that is the reason why she left me..he told me he will help me to cast a spell that bring her back.At first i was skeptical but i just gave it a try…In 2 days,she called me herself and came to me apologizing..I cant believe she can ever come back to me again EMAIL: shakesspear23@yahoo.com OR shakesspear23@gmail.com .... CONTACT HIM TODAY VIA THIS EMAIL ADDRESS: shakesspear23@yahoo.com OR shakesspear23@gmail.com AS HIS POWERS ARE SO STRONG AND VERY EFFECTIVE AND HAS NO BAD EFFECT INSTEAD IT HAVE A VERY GOOD RESULT AFTER CASTING THE SPELL.
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ReplyDeleteAm giving this testimony cos am happy
My name is Shakira Elliot from Houston,taxes.i never believed in love spells or magic until i met this spell caster once. when i went to Africa in June 28th 2013 this year on a business summit. i ment a man called DR SHAKES SPEAR. He is powerful he could help you cast a spells to bring back my love’s gone,misbehaving lover looking for some one to love you, bring back lost money and magic money spell or spell for a good job.i’m now happy & a living testimony cos the man i had wanted to marry left me 3 weeks before our wedding and my life was upside down cos our relationship has been on for 2 years… i really loved him, but his mother was against me and he had no good paying job. so when i met this spell caster, i told him what happened and explained the situation of things to him..at first i was undecided,skeptical and doubtful, but i just gave it a try. and in 6 days when i returned to taxes, my boyfriend (is now my husband ) he called me by himself and came to me apologizing that everything had been settled with his mom and family and he got a new job interview so we should get married..i didn’t believe it cos the spell caster only asked for my name and my boyfriends name and all i wanted him to do… well we are happily married now and we are expecting our little kid,and my husband also got a new job and our lives became much better. in case anyone needs the spell caster for some help, email address: shakesspear23@yahoo.com OR shakesspear23@gmail.com
GREAT SHAKES SPEAR i thank you very much thank you in 1000000 times.. if not you i would have been losted and wasted thank you. Email Him Through his email address... shakesspear23@yahoo.com OR shakesspear23@gmail.com
please make sure you contact him for any financial difficulties okay..
What a powerful man such as DR SHAKES SPEAR.. he is so much powerful..\\ email him for any difficulties.. shakesspear23@yahoo.com OR shakesspear23@gmail.com
My Name is ADAEZE..I never believed in Love Spells or Magics until I met this special spell caster when i went to Africa to Execute some business..He is really powerful..My wife divorce me with no reason for almost 4 years and i tried all i could to have her back cos i really love her so much but all my effort did not work out.. we met at our early age at the college and we both have feelings for each other and we got married happily for 5 years with no kid and she woke up one morning and she told me she’s going on a divorce..i thought it was a joke and when she came back from work she tender to me a divorce letter and she packed all her loads from my house..i ran mad and i tried all i could to have her back but all did not work out..i was lonely for almost 4 years…So when i told the spell caster what happened he said he will help me and he asked for her full name and her picture..i gave him that..At first i was skeptical but i gave it a try cos h ave tried so many spell casters and there is no solution…so when he finished with the readings,he got back to me that she’s with a man and that man is the reason why she left me…The spell caster said he will help me with a spell that will surely bring her back.but i never believe all this…he told me i will see a positive result within 3 days..3 days later,she called me herself and came to me apologizing and she told me she will come back to me..I cant believe this,it was like a dream cos i never believe this will work out after trying many spell casters and there is no solution..The spell caster is so powerful and after that he helped me with a pregnancy spell and my wife got pregnant a month later..we are now happy been together again and with lovely kid..This spell caster has really changed my life and i will forever thankful to him..he has helped many friends too with similar problem too and they are happy and thankful to him..This man is indeed the most powerful spell caster have ever experienced in life..Am Posting this to the Forum in case there is anyone who has similar problem and still looking for a way out..you can reach him here: shakesspear23@yahoo.com OR shakesspear23@gmail.com...... CONTACT THIS POWERFUL SPELL CASTER TODAY VIA EMAIL:shakesspear23@yahoo.com OR shakesspear23@gmail.com..
ReplyDeleteIs nobody else but me distracted by constantly having to be subjected to look at the site's wallpaper of a woman's head on a pike and her eyes gouged out everytime you scroll down?
ReplyDeleteThis is an excellent site, but I wish whoever is in charge of this site, to please change the wallpaper.
I as well as many others find that the mask is distracting us from what is actually important on this site: THE CONTENT of the blogs.
My wife has been suffering from thyroid cancer which was confirmed to be stage four, the doctor told me there was little he could do since she wasn’t responding to treatment but a friend of mine came to our rescue by ordering this cannabis oil from Shakes Spear which he said has been helping some patient fight against cancer of various types so we decided to give it a chance, so far my wife is improving perfectly very well and presently she can walk around the house all by herself. I felt its necessary i let others who are suffering from this acute disease that once you have a good cannabis oil it can really give one a sound second chance of living. by
ReplyDeletechance if you happen to be in need of this cannabis oil you can contact Shakes Spear who supplied I and my wife with this email: shakesspear23@yahoo.com OR shakesspear23@gmail.com
HE FIX THE FOLLOWING PROBLEMS TO ALL
ACROSS THE GLOBE ON:
1. Getting your lover or husband back
2. Spiritual bulletproof
3. Training
4. Money spell
5. Long life spell
6. Prosperity spell
7. Protection spell
8. Get a job spell
9. Becoming a manager spell
10. Get a huge loan without paying any fee spell
11. Getting your scam money back
12. Child spell
13. Pregnancy spell
14. Freedom spell
15. Love spell
16, vanishing spell
17. Invisible human spell
18. Success or pass spell
19. Marriage spell
20. Avenging spell
21. Popularity spell
22. Killing spell
23. Cancer spell
24. Supernatural power spell
25. Madness spell
26. Free house loan spell
27. Production spell of films and movie
28. Hiv/aids spell
29. Tuberculosis spell
30. Loose weight and body spell
contact me of any of these problem as I got solution to all... MY EMAIL ADDRESS IS:shakesspear23@yahoo.com OR shakesspear23@gmail.com
Thanks to Shakes Spear as he is a great spell caster who brought back my lover.....
ReplyDeleteI want to tell everyone about my meeting with Prophet Shakes Spear who was able to bring back my ex lover within the period of 2days... At these moment i don't have anything to say than to appreciate the good works of Prophet Shakes Spear who you can simply reach at: shakesspear23@yahoo.com OR shakesspear23@gmail.com
1. He has got charms/spell to take away bad luck & give good luck in life
2. He fix broken relationships, marriages
3. He treats Beareness
4. He fight evil/ witchcraft/ ghost/bad spell/curses/bad dreams& cleans homes.
5. He bring back lost lover/family
6. He Makes court cases/divorces/bad debts to disappear.
7. He has herbs for losing weight
8. He solve financial and domestic difficulties
9. He has a spell charm to bring back stolen goods.
10. He has got a sale quick potions to boost customers in business.
11. He can make you gain promotions at work place.
12. He can make your admired partner to be yours.
13. He has herbs to make long live with HIV
14. He has something to make you have lot of children.
15. He has a spell/charms that can make you have a good job.
16. He can stop someone to interfere in your love relationship/family
17. He has mixtures of herbs for sexual weakness.
18. He has herbs to enlarge your sexual system to satisfy your partner.
19. He cure madness/stress/addictions/long illnesses.
20. He treat sexual transmitted infections quickly.
21. He has lucky spells/charm to increase your wealthy.
22. He has charms for gambling/lotto/ casinos.
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