There's an old fable about two sweaty men who agree to share a glass of water. The man hands the glass to his friend, who guzzles all the contents down. Over loud protests the "friend" says, "I know how this seems, but you must know that MY half was at the bottom."
I watched something (well, the first half of something) on youtube the other day. A psychiatrist interviewed a group of sociopathic and non-sociopathic murderers, and a linguist-psychologist reviewed their statements about the murders they committed to differentiate what the different groups focused on using language recognition software.
One of the findings was that the sociopaths, in describing the murder, almost always mentioned what they ate that day. They were highly focused on basic needs for survival and comfort, whereas non-sociopaths tended to talk about family and spirituality. The researcher interpreted it as sociopaths fulfilling criteria lower on Maslow's hierarchy of needs, while non-sociopaths focused on higher-order needs.
So, a woman going to such great lengths to satisfy a base need (hunger) rather than attempting to be fair (satisfying a need for morality and respect) is indeed highly sociopathic. Non-sociopaths place a higher value on the less tangible needs in their life, and as such are more likely to share and cooperate with others to build self-esteem and peer respect. A hungry sociopath is going to eat, social consequences be damned. It takes "Fuck you, got mine" and turns it into a way of life.
I would be interested in seeing how the research was designed. If it was well designed, that certainly sounds interesting, however I will point out that correlation doesn't necessarily imply causation. Just because someone mentions what they ate doesn't necessarily mean that they don't think about other things, or have others concerns as well so unfortunately, at least based on what you are describing, it sounds like assumptions are being made on the part of the researchers. It also sounds like you are describing qualitative research which many researchers will argue has it's value because it adds some depth to quantitative research, however I will be honest I'm not a fan of qualitative research for several reasons. Some psychologists will even say qualitative research "isn't real research". :):)
I tried, but couldn't find any research article on Pubmed. I would LOVE to have a look at the raw data, but I cannot conclusively say that the conclusions made by the professor giving the talk are supported by the data. Also, there's bias that went into the experiment, because the researcher was looking for specific differences in word usage between psychopaths and non-psychopaths. He found them. Regardless, I thought it was an interesting observation, and I'm curious to know how psychopaths would report their apparent fixation (or lack thereof) on base needs of sex, money, food, shelter, and security versus higher order needs such as respect among peers, morality, etc.
You can't need sex. I hate that pyramid because it's totally inaccurate. food and stuff that you need to survive on a basic level shouldn't be put on the same level as shelter and security or sex.
That's interesting Eric, consistent with all the research. Lack of regard for others. Lower on the hierarchy of needs. Food, sleep, sex. Love, companionship, connection; not so much.
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Um it's called infatuation. You care for her because you've been following this blog consistantly for years, so understandably...., there's some attachment. But in reality, your queen is probably a figment of your imagination. (Your mind fills in what it wants to fill in). She might just get freaked with you wanting to lay jewels at her feet. No one deserves that high honour -- except, of course, for the man upstairs. Its very sweet & a little odd. ;) Aquire new hobbies. Life is too short. Shed probably want that for you. .
"Differences in word usage." Yeah. The research is right on with that one. No mistaking it. Word salad. The speech patterns are noticeably different. That cannot be disputed.
This is pretty much dead on. Wish I knew about it sooner. I could have saved my unborn child's life. Sociopaths usually have narcissistic tendencies. It's all about them and they turn and twist truths for themselves. Makes me sad. I'm positive this person had fake crocodile tears and truly felt triumphant in killing his son. He felt nothing in regards to killing his own baby boy. Help me to understand this... How does someone do this and then just go on with life like nothing happend. He didn't even care about me or what I had to endure going through all of that crazed madness. All this for some other person he so called loves. I don't get it.
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ReplyDeleteThere's an old fable about two sweaty men who agree to share
ReplyDeletea glass of water. The man hands the glass to his friend, who
guzzles all the contents down. Over loud protests the "friend" says,
"I know how this seems, but you must know that MY half was at the
bottom."
Yes, I would say that is sociopathic behavior, but it's a comedy, so it was funny.
ReplyDeleteGenerally, sociopathic behavior is far from funny.
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ReplyDeleteI watched something (well, the first half of something) on youtube the other day. A psychiatrist interviewed a group of sociopathic and non-sociopathic murderers, and a linguist-psychologist reviewed their statements about the murders they committed to differentiate what the different groups focused on using language recognition software.
ReplyDeleteOne of the findings was that the sociopaths, in describing the murder, almost always mentioned what they ate that day. They were highly focused on basic needs for survival and comfort, whereas non-sociopaths tended to talk about family and spirituality. The researcher interpreted it as sociopaths fulfilling criteria lower on Maslow's hierarchy of needs, while non-sociopaths focused on higher-order needs.
So, a woman going to such great lengths to satisfy a base need (hunger) rather than attempting to be fair (satisfying a need for morality and respect) is indeed highly sociopathic. Non-sociopaths place a higher value on the less tangible needs in their life, and as such are more likely to share and cooperate with others to build self-esteem and peer respect. A hungry sociopath is going to eat, social consequences be damned. It takes "Fuck you, got mine" and turns it into a way of life.
Erik,
DeleteI would be interested in seeing how the research was designed. If it was well designed, that certainly sounds interesting, however I will point out that correlation doesn't necessarily imply causation. Just because someone mentions what they ate doesn't necessarily mean that they don't think about other things, or have others concerns as well so unfortunately, at least based on what you are describing, it sounds like assumptions are being made on the part of the researchers. It also sounds like you are describing qualitative research which many researchers will argue has it's value because it adds some depth to quantitative research, however I will be honest I'm not a fan of qualitative research for several reasons. Some psychologists will even say qualitative research "isn't real research". :):)
I tried, but couldn't find any research article on Pubmed. I would LOVE to have a look at the raw data, but I cannot conclusively say that the conclusions made by the professor giving the talk are supported by the data. Also, there's bias that went into the experiment, because the researcher was looking for specific differences in word usage between psychopaths and non-psychopaths. He found them. Regardless, I thought it was an interesting observation, and I'm curious to know how psychopaths would report their apparent fixation (or lack thereof) on base needs of sex, money, food, shelter, and security versus higher order needs such as respect among peers, morality, etc.
DeleteYou can't need sex. I hate that pyramid because it's totally inaccurate. food and stuff that you need to survive on a basic level shouldn't be put on the same level as shelter and security or sex.
DeleteWhat's the longest you've gone, Danny, without getting off?
DeleteThat's interesting Eric, consistent with all the research. Lack of regard for others. Lower on the hierarchy of needs. Food, sleep, sex. Love, companionship, connection; not so much.
ReplyDeleteI meant to include the link.
Deletehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6vF5PtdiiCo
To M.E.'s most recent tweet. All men are assholes, some are just better at hiding it than others.
ReplyDeleteJamie is my queen. My greatest regret is that I will never
ReplyDeletesee her "up close and personal." I would be more then
delighted to lay gold and jewerly at her feet. Such luchous
feet that I would love to have draped over my shoulders.
Jamie must be the queen of all America!
Um it's called infatuation. You care for her because you've been following this blog consistantly for years, so understandably...., there's some attachment. But in reality, your queen is probably a figment of your imagination. (Your mind fills in what it wants to fill in).
DeleteShe might just get freaked with you wanting to lay jewels at her feet. No one deserves that high honour -- except, of course, for the man upstairs.
Its very sweet & a little odd. ;)
Aquire new hobbies. Life is too short. Shed probably want that for you. .
* acquire.
Delete"Differences in word usage." Yeah. The research is right on with that one. No mistaking it. Word salad. The speech patterns are noticeably different. That cannot be disputed.
ReplyDeleteThis is pretty much dead on. Wish I knew about it sooner. I could have saved my unborn child's life. Sociopaths usually have narcissistic tendencies. It's all about them and they turn and twist truths for themselves. Makes me sad. I'm positive this person had fake crocodile tears and truly felt triumphant in killing his son. He felt nothing in regards to killing his own baby boy. Help me to understand this... How does someone do this and then just go on with life like nothing happend. He didn't even care about me or what I had to endure going through all of that crazed madness. All this for some other person he so called loves. I don't get it.
ReplyDeleteSeems more like narcissism to me.
ReplyDeleteInvolving a better way does not make you any less narcissist :)
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