From a reader:
I came across this post: https://www.psychopathfree.com/showthread.php?34015-Non-Profit-For-Spreading-Psychopathy-Awareness-Around-The-World
This made me wonder whether a tax-exempt "charitable" organization could have a questionably discriminatory purpose, such as freeing the world of psychopaths. I don't know, but I highly suspect that a non-profit dedicated to denigrating people suffering from other mental health problems would not be deemed to be sufficiently charitable.
I thought it was worth pointing out. I am curious whether there is a mechanism to object to a (c)(3) application.
I came across this post: https://www.psychopathfree.com/showthread.php?34015-Non-Profit-For-Spreading-Psychopathy-Awareness-Around-The-World
This made me wonder whether a tax-exempt "charitable" organization could have a questionably discriminatory purpose, such as freeing the world of psychopaths. I don't know, but I highly suspect that a non-profit dedicated to denigrating people suffering from other mental health problems would not be deemed to be sufficiently charitable.
I thought it was worth pointing out. I am curious whether there is a mechanism to object to a (c)(3) application.
Far more useful would be teaching people to take ownership of their own experience of life.
ReplyDeleteagreed. 100% responsibility.
DeleteYou don't "harm" sociopaths you retrain them.
ReplyDeleteGive me a sociopath, say age 2. (I DON'T want one of these damaged kids
from an Eastern Block country, that was raised in an orphanage, and was never
held, and has defecent brain wiring.) I want a pretty little girl that has the promise of growing into a beautiful adult.
If I purchased such a child at a young age, I could train her up right.
It would just be me and her. She would be "unpolluted" and have no one to
compare me against. She would be "home schooled." I wouldn't teach her how
to read but she would learn to speak in English just by growing up in the
enviorment. Leave at age 18? Why would she want to do that? She wouldn't
even know about the outside world. She'd never go out, and have no reason
to go out.
The age difference would be steep. Maybe 50 years or more.
I would make provisions for that. When I sensed my "time" was coming, I'd
prepare a cocktail of alchaol and pills and have her take the first batch. Then,
I'd swallow the second. That is, I think I would.
Looking at your "chef d'oeuvre" here, you might be on to something...
Deletehttp://www.businessinsider.com/child-prodigies-2011-5?op=1
“But right now, my next experiment will be Benjamin Franklin’s kite experiment in which I might get an electric shock.”
Huh?
DeleteDid a quick Google.
ReplyDeleteNonprofits are charitable or religious organizations to which the Internal Revenue Service grants exemption from most taxes. Some laws that apply to public companies or government-funded organizations do not apply to nonprofit organizations. However, discrimination is generally illegal even in a nonprofit setting, although some organizations are exempt.
If they were declaring their right to kill all psychopaths, it'd probably apply. If they were declaring their intention to 'out' psychopaths publicly, they'd probably fall foul of libel laws. Under the guise of helping people 'recognize and recover'... doubtful anything would stick.
But I agree with North that people should take ownership of their lives. Free will. Every relationship is a kind of transaction anyway. It's up to each of us to decide what we will and will not put up with in terms of behaviour, and what we ourselves do. Power is a give and take: if you don't want it taken from you, stop giving it away.
(Generic 'you', in case that wasn't clear ;) )
While calibrating this in "French," how much do you know about slander, SansDire?
DeleteSlander is spoken. Libel is written. I didn't mention slander as it doesn't apply to a website, where things are written. French was not mentioned either ;)
DeleteLet's broach this dichotomy once more as res ipsa loquitur: "He who knows how to flatter also knows how to slander." N.B. (i.e., without saying/sans dire: caveat in absentia)
DeleteSince you have clearly distinguished between the two forms, know that the lines can be blurred in these areas. Today's statutes generally categorize defamation occurring in some media as slander, and courts have split over categories.
"N.B. (i.e., without saying/sans dire: caveat in absentia)"
Delete??
Nota Bene [nothing] (qualified by example, yet nothing outside the parentheses to qualify). Um no. That's not how it's done :D Maybe you were tired.
No, SansDire, N.B. stands for the author of the quote, namely Napoleon Bonaparte. I thought that was pretty clear, since it follows the quote and that's how it's done.
DeleteI call it "another day at the airport" (hand motioning as though a plane just flew over your head and you've missed it) when something like the above is clearly over your head.
Once, do you have any idea how pedantic (not to mention just plainly annoying) you sound? You make me think of smartie, another poster that tries to brand herself as having 'higher education', You really should have stayed true to your name and posted here just once.
DeleteThere is no need to be defensive, OldAndWise.
Delete"You make me think of smartie, another poster that tries to brand herself as having 'higher education', You really should have stayed true to your name and posted here just once."
And yet another day at the airport.
"Once, do you have any idea how pedantic (not to mention just plainly annoying) you sound?"
DeleteI thought you would also see the dark humor in it, but, as they say, a series of unfortunate events do happen at the airport.
:D @ Once - I call it a wind-up (hand motioning round and round with creaking noise added). You rose to the bait so beautifully too. Good little fishie!
Delete@ OldAndWise Yup!
"You rose to the bait so beautifully too."
DeleteYour idea is obviously post facto. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sS1JHKIV3jE
"Good little fishie!"
Objection. N/A
Defamation cases are notoriously hard to litigate. I doubt any lawyer would bother in this context.
DeleteME, if there is a way to object I'm sure you or some other sociopath lawyer will figure out. Here is a great cause for you, fight a nonprofit that is increasing psychopath awarenesss, lol. Isn't that what your book is trying to do? Or, were you only trying to raise awareness of you?
ReplyDeleteWhy not join the organization? Oh, what a stupid idea, sociopaths don't join other people's initiatives, they start their own initiatives. They need to BE BIG.
It's a great idea to raise awareness in any issue, particularly in identifying behavior disorders. What's the problem? Someone thought of it before you did and is collecting donations from those who suffered from the disease, so to speak?
I think this non profit may be beneficial in some ways. For me, figuring out that my mom is probably a narcissist helped me understand my childhood better and throw out some beliefs about myself that came from her and not from reality. I think it might help people sort fact from fiction in their lives. That being said, I can see how "psychopath awareness" could easily spiral out of control, and as a psychopath I don't really want any sort of psychopath witch hunt.
ReplyDelete@North absolutely people should take responsibility! Psychopath awareness is completely asinine if people use it to start blaming all of their own personal failings on psychopaths, especially if they're the kind of people who invent s/p's around every corner and call every person who ever insulted them a psycho.
The non profit would only be beneficial for educational purposes. Anything more and yes, please take this thing down ME.
Dorian, we seem to be on the same page. I particularly like what you and North say about taking responsibility. Being exposed to a psychopath can actually help you grow, especially if you understand where they are coming from.
DeleteIn my case, my sociofriend has a piercing intellect and sees weaknesses in me that I hide to myself. The latest he discussed with me is my less than healthy response to a passive aggressive person that we both know. He is absolutely right, and I am trying to work at handling this unpleasant relationship with the passive aggressive in a more constructive way. Another non sociopath friend would probably empathize with me and tell me I was right about reacting as I do with this person. Comforting, yes, but not helpful in the long run.
It's probably best to take the middle ground. Your friend is probably enjoying picking you apart and I wouldn't completely encourage them to do so but you may learn some interesting things about yourself as a result. I don't want to speak for all s/p's because I'm pretty young, but I think it's difficult to always realize the effect I have on empaths and realize that what I find entertaining can sometimes be hurtful. Your friend might just be picking you apart for entertainment.
Deletewhat kind of weaknesses Old? explain
DeleteDorian, I understand what you are saying. I know how much fun he has had with me in the past, taking me apart as you put it. We talk about it openly. He actually apologized recently, and even though I know it was not heartfelt, it pleased me that he had enough brain to actually offer those words to me. It means he is learning to better integrate. He now realizes that knowing more about himself and how people react to him will help him in the future. I truly believe he will be a very high functioning sociopath one day, and be able to use his 'special gift' in a way that is non destructive to him, and still somewhat fun. Puppy basket provided some insight as to how to do that.
DeleteRead more of my posts before you respond with words like codependency, masochism, Stockholm syndrome and all the rest... I have been posting on this blog for just over a year.
We have found a balance where I am not completely boring to him, without me suffering from his antics, but taking the opportunity to learn. I realize it is a strange relationship, but it works for the time being. I am useful to him, and he is useful to me. I do not expect it to last forever, but I appreciate who he is in all his sociopathic 'glory' but also beyond it, and his very special way to look at things and people around him. Interestingly, the person he is most blind to is himself.
Your relationship sounds cute in a twistedly endearing sense :) he is lucky to have such a friend. It must be nice to be accepted for what you are by an empathic person who has no illusions about you
DeleteDorian, you say that you find it difficult to always realize the effect you have on empaths and when they realize that you find it entertaining, it can can sometimes be hurtful to them.
DeleteYou got it mate!
You hurt them and some will be angry with you for the rest of your life. They will try to trip and undermine you every chance they get. Call it karma. Think of some of the hurt you inflict as cutting somebody's finger off. The thing is, you don't know for a fact when you have gone too far, because it is not something you can relate to. You probably will never be able to relate to it the way a 'regular' person does. But understanding it intellectually will most likely help you be successful on life, depending on what you believe success is.
What is your definition of success?
I'm not entirely sure what success means to me. I struggle with boredom and apathy a lot. I feel like my life is a continual question - live or die - not in a depressed sense but in an existential sense. I rarely experience happiness, but I laugh a lot and enjoy simple pleasures like sex and red wine and the sun on my skin. For me, if I'm going to keep living, I need to be entertained enough to enjoy myself and the pleasures I experience/may experience in the future need to outweigh the boredom of life.
DeleteI think I would be happier alone in the wilderness sometimes where everything is challenging and keeps me on my toes, but then I wouldn't have anyone to talk to and I might still get bored eventually and off myself.
I guess success is the balance between extreme pleasure and normalcy - a life that keeps me on my toes and entertained enough without landing me in lock up.
Abc, lately I have been getting very frustrated with this passive aggressive person. He knows how to push my buttons, and I do get upset with him pretty fast and pretty regularly and I could potentially make a bit of a fool of myself because of this if I have not already.
DeleteWhat my sociofriend made me realize is that I need to acknowledge the fact that he makes me upset and manage it so that it makes the passive aggressive person look bad, not me. Not sure how to do that yet, but I am a step closer to it now that my sociofriend has opened my eyes on my own weakness. Makes sense?
As far as non-profits working to eliminate various forms of neurodivergence, Autism $peaks still gets plenty of respect (for some reason). I’m not surprised to see neurotypicals reaching for eliminationism for their own ease and comfort so they don’t have to deal with people unlike themselves.
ReplyDeleteHistory repeats itself, Normatives are always trying to eliminate the mutants.
DeleteWell, I think that the initiative might actually be beneficial to sociopaths, psychopaths, and narcissistic people, and to society as a whole. Awareness is key. Cluster b thought process is so different from 'regular' people that it seems alien when exposed to it for the first time. Even with previous intellectual knowledge, it still can be a paradigm shift when emotionally exposed to one of these individuals as their target.
ReplyDeleteYou can get hurt by the cold if you don't get dressed appropriately. Same with the sun. If exposed to the sun too long, you can get badly burnt. Less so with sun screen. Same idea with cluster b people. The better you understand them, the better you can protect yourself against being swept away and hurt.
For those who don't know me, I have a pretty good relationship with my sociopath 'friend' of 5 years. I try to show him how much he affects people and how much better off he would be in life if he understood the fallout and the long term ramifications of his behavior. It is a journey. It is like trying to describe what it is like to see to a blind child.
Also, my sister is a strong woman who was married to a cluster b personality (diagnosed) for 25 years. The last 5 years were pure hell. She checked herself in a psychiatric hospital when she thought she might commit suicide. With 4 kids, she knew she could not. She started to heal when she started to understand the thought process associated with cluster b personalities, and make her peace with the fact that she could not change it, but had to deal with it intellectually as best she could. I supported her daily for several years after the separation. So I do not minimize the damage a cluster b can inflict on their target, and I do know that awareness is key to protecting and healing oneself.
I read some of the posts and rules on the psychopath free site. Yes, there are people on the site that have been badly hurt. They are there to heal. Part of their healing process includes sharing their wounds, and in doing so they are painting their abuser in very dark colors. Who would not. If you have been frost bitten and lost fingers, you probably won't be likely to go skiing on a bitter cold day or mountain climbing. If you have a second degree burn from the sun, it will take you a while before you expose yourself to the sun. You might never enjoy it again. But the owner of the blog seems to be a pretty decent guy. Maybe ME should join forces with him as opposed to try and combat his initiative. Wouldn't that make sense and bring a balanced view to the cause?
Actually I wold probably ski again the next day. That's the problem with s/p's - we don't learn like empaths. That's also why it's difficult to comprehend damages we inflict - because if reversed, they wouldn't hurt us very much.
ReplyDeletewhy cant't you learn Dorothy? explain
ReplyDeleteDorian, as in Dorian Gray. For me, no pain or consequence is really so bad that I would let it stop me from trying anything again. The threat of more pain is actually seductive because it's a challenge - can I avoid it/best it this time around? If I 'learn' not to do something, it's usually because I find that thing too boring to repeat, not because it caused me pain. As an s/p fucking with people isn't particularly boring...
Delete"If I 'learn' not to do something, it's usually because I find that thing too boring to repeat, not because it caused me pain"
DeleteI absolutely agree with and relate to this- especially as an adrenaline aficionado who has experienced a fair share of minor sports-related injuries. (Including instances where I have literally "skiied again the next day" when I probably shouldn't have.)
I will expand upon your comment by sharing that the only thing that truly inhibits me from indulging sensation-oriented impulses- even if they are self-destructive- is a loss of interest in that method of satisfying a particular urge, or a loss of the predilection altogether. The only exception to this was when I quit smoking. That was an exercise in the sheer application of will. I berated myself constantly with the refrain that that being addicted to tobacco made me weak.
Quitting smoking was REALLY hard for me too. And, while I also indulged in berating myself, it didn't do a whole lot of good. Ultimately, I took up surfing and that became more important than smoking.
DeleteI then did the patch for at least five years until the prep nurse for my angioplasty asked about it and informed me that I was done. She was right.
It took years until the smell of cigarettes wasn't pleasant. And, I can still almost recall the sublime pleasure of a hot cup of coffee and a cigarette on a frost covered morning. As close to heaven as I will ever get...
So I would have to concur - it's the loss of interest rather than the avoidance of pain that has motivated many things in my life. And I continue to do things against doctor's advice (as I write, actually!).
I've posted before about The Sisters of Mercy - there's a lyric that I've long related to: "tunnel vision and the scars to prove it." The song is "Train" if anyone is interested. If the good Mr. Eldritch isn't a member of the tribe...
I was really into Sisters of Mercy in high school.
Delete@Haller... Right there with you. I have often said that if I lived by the ocean, nobody would ever be able to get me out of it again. I usually only go a few weeks a year, but even so- I'm gradually learning...
DeleteI love water sports. I enjoy surfing documentaries like some people enjoy football. There is just something about giving oneself over to a wave like that- and mastering something that is so strong and unpredictable... that is deeply viscerally appealing to me. It's so challenging and exhilarating.
I definitely relate to to the not learning to avoid something unless it bores me crowd. I still touch burning hot things because it is too much effort to grab a hotpad. The fact that I can stop my skin form actually burning might have something to do with that though.
DeleteHowever I need to share on the subject of That website full of professional victims. I lurk there when I need a laugh. I originally thought I might be able to add to the dialogue as a principled s/o ... and then I read the posts. One woman had married three successive "sociopaths"
wtf? Reading into and analyzing her sob story I had the epiphany that she was like some other women I know and the occasional man who subconsciously search out an abusive mate and then thrive on the drama. They then get to blame everyone but themselves and gather pity and attention for their own errors in judgement.
It is just not that hard to spot abusive behavior. I have smacked down plenty of idiots for that shit. Then I (surprise) Left. I realize that people have self esteem issues and that as a subspecies we s/o's tend to target the low hanging fruit sometimes. I do understand that some of us are so good at what we do that we become an addiction. That said everyone knows their addiction is bad for them.
There is a special kind of narc I call "The Pity Party" these people muct be the center of attention at all times, every little thing is drama laden and they play misery one up man ship with anyone who has it worse than them. They are like the mirror to the sociopath. Where we feel little they emote about everything, where we are logical they are emotional, make no mistake though they are even more manipulative than we are. The only difference is they play to peoples emotions instead of logic.
Not putting your sister in that niche OldAndWIse but that site is just crawling with people unwilling to look at their own part in a failed relationship. It does worry me that these are the people, the ones who can not and never will take responsibility for their own actions who are the ones giving "advice" to the newly "victimized". Mostly this seems to center around suggesting that those of us with this mutation be wiped off the planet.
You want to know why you don't see many men on that site? Female socios are sex goddesses. The men weigh up the fact that we don't really love them against the sex and ego stroking we can give them, shrug their shoulders and call it good. Women have been brainwashed since birth to believe in LOVE in capital letter as the defining thing in their lives. They define themselves by their mate. They think the smooth socio is an awesome catch until the bottom falls out and then, they get mad.
More later
where are the old ''socios''? need to find a spell caster
ReplyDeleteI need a little more explanation here...
DeleteTrying to make the neurotypical world more aware of sociopaths won't work. Neurotypicals tend to think most people have empathy as they experience it, and trust on that. Sociopaths know that and 'use' that trust.
ReplyDeleteBecoming a self aware sociopath only made me more cautious at manipulating others and enjoying it more. Manipulating psychologists and even psychiatrists misleading them towards wrong diagnosis with a lot of benefits has been ultimate proof to me that a sociopath with a medium to high iq can con everything and everyone around him or her if he or she wants to.
Yes, it's utterly beyond most people's imagination that people can lie so naturally. It doesn't compute.
DeleteBecoming a self-aware neurotypical is always the best way to go. You know, being able to say "stop, I don't like it" as early as possible (everything they taught you in kindergarten...) and generally taking responsibility of and pleasure in your own experience of life.
Everyone lies. Socios are better at it. It doesn't mean it's a "better" way to live but it certainly *is* a way to live.
Objectively speaking, science describes what is rather than what should be. Socios are part of the spectrum of humanity, it's a reality. And yes, societal constructs and rules are useful for them too, as guidelines for behaviour (we all want our place at the campfire for survival reasons.)
The broader range of neurotypicals would do well to learn that laws and rules are not protection. Their role as adults is to protect themselves and learn from errors.
Learning experiences are good.
"Good judgement comes from experience. Experience comes from bad judgement."
Setting up another dimension to the good-evil dichotomy is the least helpful thing I can imagine. It's juvenile. We're smarter than that.
The problem is not making the world more aware of us but getting them to understand how we function and our function in society. I am pretty upfront with people about what I am. I have yet to have a bad reaction from anyone and about a third of time I have a very positive one. You guys can take that as an update on Project Full Disclosure,
DeleteIf we are able to identify cluster b's and socialize them like I have been society would benefit. We are as capable of change as anyone else.
I need to know how to get a sociopath to care. thanks
ReplyDeleteTell the sociopath that you feel hurt by his or her actions, weep a little if you can. Give the sociopath gifts of reasonable value or financial benefits, preferable on a regular basis. That should work ...
DeleteLol!
DeleteThe way to make them care is to provide something to them that nobody else can and withdraw or make them wait for it if they misbehave. Easier said than done because you have to find out what is important to them and fill that gap. It is usually too much work for what you get in return. That is the only way they can possibly 'care'. Sometimes they are not self-aware enough to acknowledge it. For the cluster b people who read this but feel defensive about it, and think it is complete bullshit, look at yourself again. You may be a cluster b, but you are not a sociopath.
perfect. thank you.
DeleteI know you're joking anon, but that really could work. I was actually torn about cutting a guy out of my life because he promised to pay for my boob job. But then he had to make an ass out of himself and that overrode the perceived value he had to me.
Delete"That is the only way they can possibly 'care'."
DeleteSince I believe in different possibilities, there is never only one way. However, since the question was asked, I think that brainpower is the major quotient, and when this truly matches the precocity and intellectual sharpness of another, the end result is surely savvy. So, yes, in a sense, this sui generis match would be "providing something to them that nobody else can."
"The way to make them care is to provide something to them that nobody else can and withdraw or make them wait for it if they misbehave."
DeleteUpon reflection, this is true. However, unless you are a sociopath's spouse or offspring, withdrawal will generally be met with apathy. Chances are we'll move on pretty quickly. We can and will find what we're looking for elsewhere. I could never see the people with whom I am "friends" again, and I wouldn't miss them at all.
"Easier said than done because you have to find out what is important to them and fill that gap.....That is the only way they can possibly 'care'."
I don't know if I would be clinically diagnosed as a sociopath, but I do care for my family. They are important to me. Even so, I can withdraw from them internally very easily. Being self-aware helps me to deliberately counteract this tendency.
In spite of my capacity to withdraw, I value the conversations and friendship I have with my spouse, and I would truly miss him if he left. He is the one person, apart from my own children (and even then...), with whom I have managed to cultivate a strong bond. But honestly? Although I appreciate our friendship, it is the great sex that keeps me tethered.
"Tell the sociopath that you feel hurt by his or her actions, weep a little if you can."
DeleteThis is terrible advice. Crying will tend to annoy us, especially if we're the cause of it. I can't speak for anyone else, but I get frustrated when I have to deal with people's emotions.
Crying is something I struggle with handling well too. Everyone tends to look ridiculous when they cry so I have a really hard time not giggling at them. This is really bad if I'm the cause of the tears. That said, I can make myself cry when it suits me and I'll admit, even I look ridiculous crying. It's too funny.
DeleteHow do you make yourself cry? By thinking of things that hurt you?
DeleteI can't make myself cry. I can't evoke feelings on demand.
Also, you said in another post something to the following effect: "I am incapable of physical affection". Could you please elaborate what you mean by that? Because it sounds like utter bullshit. Anyone is technically capable of physical displays of affection. Do you mean they repulse you so much that you refrain from them?
I am not overly inclined to it, I am certainly able to display physical warmth. In some cases it is absolutely necessary in order to grease the wheels- especially as a woman.
DeleteI claimed to be "completely incapable of affection or empathy at all" earlier but I can't find anything specifically about physical affection. Of course I can give people hugs and shit. I'm very physically aware, and maybe that's because I'm young and hormonal but my natural response to touch is always sexual. I don't mean I get turned on anytime anyone touches me, but I usually envision scenarios where that touch becomes a bit more sultry, and so I don't really like to hug family members lol...
I think it's because my narcissistic mother didn't love me enough or something and making all touch sexual distances it from the love and touch I didn't receive growing up. Or some bullshit like that.
Thankfully I'm attractive, so I'm often right about touch having sexual meanings when it's from non relatives. Imagine how embarrassing that would be if I was fugly.
I wasn't entirely right about being "completely incapable of affection" in that post. I can't manage to stay affectionate about someone when I'm not around them, but I can enjoy their company when they're with me. It's just, if a situation arose where it would benefit me to betray or abandon them, I would - in a heartbeat. I also end things if the other person gets too boring. My friendships are usually short as a result, but I have acquaintances, so I'm all good. I also have two guys and a girl trailing around after my skirt right now so that makes for some entertainment.
When I was growing up, the only way to get my parents to listen was usually to throw a fit, so I learned to cry early on. I widen my eyes and hold them open and think about how no one is listening to me and increase my breathing - all of that, combined with whatever situation I'm in usually does it for me.
Oh and here here about greasing the wheels as a woman. I'm posting as Dorian because he's young and debauched and obsessed with his pursuits of pleasure and I've never found a female character I can relate to more, but I am female. I have no qualms about *lubricating* certain wheels when necessary XD
I named my cat Dorian. He's gorgeous and a complete and utter asshole. Love that fucking cat.
Delete"my natural response to touch is always sexual. I don't mean I get turned on anytime anyone touches me, but I usually envision scenarios where that touch becomes a bit more sultry, and so I don't really like to hug family members lol...
DeleteI claimed to be "completely incapable of affection or empathy at all" earlier but I can't find anything specifically about physical affection. Of course I can give people hugs and shit. I'm very physically aware, and maybe that's because I'm young and hormonal but my natural response to touch is always sexual. I don't mean I get turned on anytime anyone touches me, but I usually envision scenarios where that touch becomes a bit more sultry, and so I don't really like to hug family members lol...
I think it's because my narcissistic mother didn't love me enough or something and making all touch sexual distances it from the love and touch I didn't receive growing up. Or some bullshit like that."
This is an interesting and psychologically astute reflection on the origin of incestuous fantasies. I am also hypersexual, and have dissociated love and lust into separate compartments, but I am not turned on by any of my family members. But I might get turned on by someone else's description of similar depravity, if it were well-rendered.
"Thankfully I'm attractive, so I'm often right about touch having sexual meanings when it's from non relatives. Imagine how embarrassing that would be if I was fugly."
I am also very good-looking and get a lot of attention from the opposite sex. I try to avoid too much physical contact with others to avoid giving the wrong signals. Right now, I have a 17 year old boy trailing after my skirt. Ask me if I'm not tempted. But I wouldn't touch him with a fucking yardstick. :P
"I wasn't entirely right about being "completely incapable of affection" in that post. I can't manage to stay affectionate about someone when I'm not around them, but I can enjoy their company when they're with me. It's just, if a situation arose where it would benefit me to betray or abandon them, I would - in a heartbeat. "
I might have agreed with this before I met my husband and children.
"My friendships are usually short as a result, but I have acquaintances"
I only have acquaintances apart from my husband, with perhaps a single exception.
"When I was growing up, the only way to get my parents to listen was usually to throw a fit, so I learned to cry early on. I widen my eyes and hold them open and think about how no one is listening to me and increase my breathing - all of that, combined with whatever situation I'm in usually does it for me."
LOL. Ok. I see what you mean, now.
I also manipulated my parents via temper tantrums. My dad was a psychopath, though. His reaction to my fits was often disproportionately harsh. You would think that might dissuade me, but I was a perfect fucking hellion. When my father left, I trampled all over my mother. I fully shed all adult authority by the age of 15- including school officials. By then, my father had left the house, which was for the best, or he might have killed me.
"Oh and here here about greasing the wheels as a woman. I'm posting as Dorian because he's young and debauched and obsessed with his pursuits of pleasure and I've never found a female character I can relate to more, but I am female. I have no qualms about *lubricating* certain wheels when necessary XD"
Well, shit. I might written that myself. :P
One thing- Dorian was a superficial prick. I can often see beauty and sex appeal where others only perceive ugliness.
"Dorian was a superficial prick."
DeleteI knew this beautiful empathic girl from the Middle East - dark hair, dark eyes, absolutely gorgeous. She loves Oscar Wilde so naturally when I tried to seduce her I had to read Wilde. Unfortunately she got too clingy and boring and I wasn't having it, although later I tried to seduce her again because she was such a babe, and she wasn't having it, so we're even :)
We talked about Dorian Gray and apparently she's Basil, the friend who paints him and loves him, and I'm Dorian - I reject the love and kill Basil. I'm cold, shallow, self obsessed, blah blah blah. I don't see anything wrong with being ugly inside and pretty outside as long as I'm still high functioning enough.
I like Dorian because he was so curious about life too. He wanted to experience every pleasure he could possibly get. I'm not sure about every pleasure (I'm not planning on killing people or otherwise landing myself in prison) but I need to keep finding new pleasures to distract me from boredom. If I run out, then it's back to that old question - live or die. Eventually even Dorian ran out of things to keep him occupied and chose death (in the book).
I'll admit, just because I relate to him doesn't mean he isn't a prick - he is. I'm not exactly a ray of kindness and sunshine myself.
"I can often see beauty and sex appeal where others only perceive ugliness."
Full agreement there. I'm usually attracted to beautiful women, more effeminate young men, and really rugged masculine men, all either very thin or very muscular. Sometimes there's a person who really doesn't add up to any of that but it's just the sound of their voice or something. I'm also more attracted to power than physical appearance so you know, wealthy people, politicians, CEO's ;)
Your comment shoulders an aphoristic tone, which slightly touches upon the “air” of the preface to “The Picture of Dorian Gray.” On the whole, the preface is not clingy and boring, which is something that I like as well. Comparable to the air of this preface, one needs room to breathe, which, inadvertently, is also a part of my nature (i.e., being clingy would go against it). In other words, I understand your point.
Delete“We talked about Dorian Gray and apparently she's Basil, the friend who paints him and loves him, and I'm Dorian - I reject the love and kill Basil.”
At this point, your comment becomes darker, but I can see how this stems out of your own “imagined realm,” so to speak.
“Eventually even Dorian ran out of things to keep him occupied and chose death (in the book).”
I knew a person who believed that all poetry was about death. Your thoughts reminded me of him.
I am also a prick. Allow me to demonstrate:
DeleteDo you have Asperger's, Retard "Once" known as Teo? Because you are unbelievably obtuse. Here you are again, spouting meaningless comments trussed up in fancy prose, in which claim to understand someone's point, but make clear from their substance that you do not.
Who wound you up this time? I think you should crawl back into your cave. Silence suits you. :P
@Dorian... I once seduced a woman who was attracted to the real me. She was a virgin... The quintessential good girl, and a natural submissive. She was shy and nervous; soft- spoken, demeure, and easily intimidated. She fed my narcissism like nobody ever has.
She was slightly overweight, with large, beautiful breasts, shapely hips, luscious lips, a bit of an overbite, and a fervent, latent desire to be seduced and dominated by a more sexually experienced woman. It took many months of manipulation to gradually lower her defenses and work past her inhibitions... To fan her desires enough to cut through many layers of shame and guilt...
At first, she had me volunteering in an old age home and taking her out for ice cream. By the time I got her in bed, I was plying her with hard liquor, and making out with her on the dance floor of various gay clubs, in the seediest parts of town.
Drawing out her latent bisexuality and corrupting her sufficiently to act upon those urges was a slow process, but I savored every part of it.
She was not classically beautiful in any sense of the term. I was truly out of her league. But she drove me crazy for many months, and bedding her was the sweetest conquest.
Unfortunately, I cut off all contact with her almost as soon as we had consummated the relationship. That probably hurt her quite a bit, but I didn't stick around to find out.
I would venture to say that Smartie has a couple of alters out today -
DeleteI think it's hormonal - most likely she is dire need of being forced to her knees to suck a big throbbing cock.
Is that it Smartie?
How big? Feel like sharing with the young and pretty?
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You can try, but I doubt he'll give it up for you. I think Haller reserves all his dirty talk for Smartie, since it bothers her so much.
DeleteApparently, sexual fixations of any kind deeply offend her, occasionally triggering her to the point of hysterics. I learned this entirely by accident, after starting to post here again following a long hiatus. It's amusing to watch her spout off like a defective spaz.
Speaking of Pneumonica's A* minor from the "Seeing people for what they are" post...and I am being "benignant," so to speak....
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And here's a "thumb" view for other, precursory confabulations: http://static1.1.sqspcdn.com/static/f/496935/6088827/1282940751533/verne_troyer_thumb.png?token=W%2FCNwHEu%2FTVGMXSkrvffpNifmIw%3D
And because HLHaller likes to bother people so much, I'll let Stay Smart reply to his comment (whenever that might be...).
DeleteIf anyone's interested in TV shows for sociopaths and things like that, I would reccommend Ally McBeal.
ReplyDeleteYes, I've seen most of the episodes. I think Ally's best lines are, "Remember, when you're with me, it's the only time you're not the strangest person in the room. So go ahead, get weird with me."
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ReplyDeleteI AM Dora Sandy i want to give thanks and i will always give thanks to prophet oyinbo who brought back my divorce husband that has left me for 6years within 48hours,i have said about this last week but i promised to always tell people about this every weekend so that those that did not read about it last week will read about it this week,i have been looking for how to get pregnant and how to get my divorce husband back to my life because i love him with the whole of my heart,i could not replace him with any body,one day i was watching my television when i saw a lady giving thanks to priest ina and telling the world how he helped her i was so shocked i could not believe it because i never taught that there are powers that can bring back lost marriage,then that was how i decided to contact him too because i do really need my divorce husband back,when i contacted him i told him everything and he told me not to worry that my divorce husband will surely be back to me, within 48hours at first i could not believe because i was thinking how could somebody that has gone for 6years come back within 48 hours,so then i decided to watch and see,unbelievable within the next 48hours i got a call from unknown number so i pick the call the next thing i could hear was my husbands voice he was pleading and begging me on the phone that i should forgive him that i should forget all that have happened that he did not know what came over him,he promised not to leave for any reason,that he was really sorry for what he did,i was so surprised because i never believed that this could happen,so that was how i accepted his apology and the next morning he came back home to meet me and still pleading for me to forgive him i told him that everything is okay that i have forgiven him,that was how we started again and he has Chang,i promised to say this testimony in radio station,commenting this testimony that now am pregnant,but still okay before this month runs out i promise to say this in radio station and i will sir, thank you very much.World please am begging you people to try and help me thank this man for me,or if you need his help here is his email address prophetoyinbojesus@yahoo.com or you can also reach him through his mobile number,+2348074066640
"I don't know, but I highly suspect that a non-profit dedicated to denigrating people suffering from other mental health problems would not be deemed to be sufficiently charitable....I am curious whether there is a mechanism to object to a (c)(3) application."
ReplyDeleteI agree, M.E., and well, when it comes to "Risky Business: There’s liability for the acts of your volunteers."
"Laws protecting nonprofit organizations, called “charitable immunity” laws, have fallen out of favor. Courts have generally agreed that individuals’ right to recover for their injuries should not be limited because the institution responsible for the harm is a charity.
The court called charitable immunity an “antiquated rule,” finding that “…a charitable institution is subject to liability for its tortuous conduct the same as any other person or corporation.” Although a minority of states offer some form of charitable immunity protection it is the nonprofit, not the volunteer, who usually ends up liable for harm caused by a volunteer."
http://www.thenonprofittimes.com/news-articles/risky-business-theres-liability-acts-volunteers/
I'm sending this to all my friends.
ReplyDeleteOINTB Begins At:: 99:99 of s01e01 of Ally McBeal
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This is what began my idea for OITNB,/
sorry i had to edit. Jesus
ReplyDeleteThis is an Original Tanya McCracken. So you have to watch the show.
I'm sending this to all my friends.
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ReplyDeleteYuo can see this status without liking it.
This is an Original Tanya McCracken. So you have to watch the show.
I'm sending this to all my friends.
OINTB Begins At:: 99:99 of s01e01 of Ally McBeal
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ReplyDeleteand SUSHI pronounced backwards is IHSUS
ReplyDeleteokay ___and this is from TAnya McCracken__ okay _______ at the point where I got the card from Renée
ReplyDeletei guess thats at the beginning of s01e20 Ally McBeal if you wanna skip up. lmao
ReplyDeletethis status was for the POLICE/rap gang
ReplyDeleteOkay i'm not gonna share personal shit but Stephen Harper and i dont think this will hold up in court was born on the day Hitler died.
ReplyDeleteit is definately a for-profit organization.
DeleteIs one responsible for the day he or she is born?? That's rediculous.
DeleteTo be born and discover why.
DeleteHarper watched the show.
DeleteI remember watching these episodes quondam.
ReplyDeleteWhen formulating all of these words and numbers,
"OINTB Begins At:: 99:99 of s01e01 of Ally McBeal
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an end seems to become improbable.
My beloved friends. My name is Mike I based in New York’s I never believed in all spell-casting. I have been scammed by five (5) different people. I lost hope in them. My ex-girlfriend left me. I was devastated. I lost my job. My best friend saw my plight. Then he introduced me to this man spell caster called Dr Larry. I Was told his work is free. I never believed until i got in touch with him. He did a spell for me. My ex-girlfriend came back in less than 72hrs. I was recalled at my place of work. I was even promoted immediately. I couldn't believe there is a real man prophet out there who does free spells. I only paid in appreciation after the spell had worked. He doesn't charge anybody until the spell has worked. You shouldn't be deceived by all these scammers that are here for money. Dr Larry doesn't charge. You can only choose to pay after the spell has worked. Try him and see what I am telling you. This is my first time of see a spell caster who can cast a spell very well. He is good and kind. These are the few things he does:-
ReplyDelete*HE BRINGS BACK LOST LOVERS IN 24hrs.
*REMOTE CONTROL OVER LOVERS.
*ALL TYPES OF SPELL CASTING & VOODOO WORKER.
* IS YOUR HEALER TAKING LONG TO SOLVE YOUR PROBLEMS? THIS IS YOUR CHANCE TO BE HELPED QUICKLY.
*GET RIDE OF ANY WITCHCRAFT, BAD LUCK & CURSES.
* EXPERT IN DISTANCE HEALING
*COURT CASES EVEN IF ONE IS CONVICTED [IF THERE'S A CHANCE OF APPEALING]
*IS SOME BODY JEALOUS WITH YOUR RELATIONSHIP?
*UNFINISHED JOBS BY OTHER DOCTORS-IF NOT SATISFIED-COME TO ME.
*ARE YOU BEING FORCED INTO A DIVORCE?
*HE PREVENTS BAD LUCK AND JEALOUSY.
*TO WIN HORSES AND GAMBLING.
*HE CAN STOP SOME ONE INTERFERING WITH YOUR RELATIONSHIP.
* DO YOU WANT TO HAVE CHILDREN OF YOUR CHOICE
*DO YOU WANT QUICK MARRIAGE PROPOSAL?
*HE CAN CLEAN PEOPLE HOUSES, BUSINESSES AND PROPERTIES FROM BAD LUCK.
*DO YOU NEED EXCESSIVE SEXUAL POWER AND STRONG ERECTIONS?
You can get in touch with him through (drjohnlarryspiritualspellcast@gmail.com)
I seem to need two lawyers who are'nt sleeping with each other.
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what is your last meal
ReplyDeleteTorches and Pitchforks and 501C's - Oh My!!!
ReplyDeleteI've been thinking about how, what I see as, neuro-typical people struggle with in dealing with me.
I've been discussing my reflections with some people - openly in some cases, and covertly in others.
There really does seem to be an almost reflexive distrust of anyone who doesn't share their "emotional view of the world." By that I mean, if I'm not reacting in a similar way with similar degrees of emotion, they seem to...almost look lost....as in, "how can you function?" ...and then the fear sets in...
It really does seem to me, for all the world, that most people cannot understand "choosing" to do the right or wrong thing in a given situation based on reason. They seem so compelled by their emotions that if some isn't, they have a tough time understanding how they make choices at all.
It's a work in progress -
I'm also confounded that people just know what the right thing to do is in any given situation. I believe there are many different choices and any of them could be justified in some way or another (I love to argue for the sake or arguing so I can find a way to justify literally anything), but it's like neurotypicals see only one right choice. Arguing about which choice is right is pointless too because it eventually comes down to morality and you can't reason with someone who uses morality as their entire argument. It's rather like an evolutionist arguing with someone who takes the Bible literally.
DeleteI'm never quite sure whether it's that they 'feel' they know what is the right thing to do, or they just don't want to be bothered to think of any alternatives ;)
DeleteSometimes it depends on the person. And sometimes it seems to depend more upon the day.
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DeleteThis is my testimony about the good work of a man who helped me..My name is NINA GEORGE. and I base in London.My life is back!!! After 8 years of marriage, my husband left me and left me with our three kids. I felt like my life was about to end,and was falling apart. Thanks to a spell caster called papa Justus who i met online. On one faithful day, as I was browsing through the internet, I was searching for a good spell caster that can solve my problems. I came across series of testimonies about this particular spell caster. Some people testified that he brought their Ex lover back, some testified that he restores womb, some testified that he can cast a spell to stop divorce and so on. There was one particular testimony I saw, it was about a woman called grace,she testified about how papa Justus brought back her Ex lover in less than 72 hours and at the end of her testimony she drop papa Justus e-mail address. After reading all these,I decided to give papa a try.
ReplyDeleteI contacted him via email and explained my problem to him. In just 3 days, my husband came back to me. We solved our issues, and we are even happier than before. papa Justus is really a talented and gifted man and i will not to stop publishing him because he is a wonderful man...If you have a problem and you are looking for a real and genuine spell caster to solve that problem for you. Try the great papa Justus today, he might be the answer to your problem. Here's his contact: drabeljustus@gmail.com
Thank you great Justus. Contact him for the following:
(1)If you want your ex back.
(2) if you always have bad dreams.
(3)You want to be promoted in your office.
(4)You want women/men to run after you.
(5)If you want a child.
(6)[You want to be rich.
(7)You want to tie your husband/wife to be yours forever.
(8)If you need financial assistance.
(9)Herbal care
10)Help bringing people out of prison
(11)Marriage Spells
(12)Miracle Spells
(13)Beauty Spells
(14)PROPHECY CHARM
(15)Attraction Spells
(16)Evil Eye Spells
(17)Kissing Spell
(18)Remove Sickness Spells
(19)ELECTION WINNING SPELLS
(20)SUCCESS IN EXAMS SPELLS
(21) Charm to get who to love you.
(22)Business spell.
(23) Find your long lost family.
Contact him today on:
drabeljustus@gmail.com,
+2347033354868.
You can also CONTACT HIM ON whats-app on the same phone number.
Seems like openly opposing the existence of those such as us would be dangerous at best.
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ReplyDeleteThey make us sound like villians.
ReplyDeletewell Basil- aren't people who deliberately deceive and defraud others considered to be villains?
ReplyDeletePerhaps that's not all you are, but it is a big part of who a sociopath is. And I am not judging that as good or bad, simply recognizing that reality.
In a weird way, having others be more aware of the behavior tells that tip an average person off that they are dealing with a sociopath is a way to make the game more interesting.
A more level playing field with empowered victims is like moving up a screen in a video game. Organizations like this new nonprofit separate the low functioning from the high functioning.
You should only be threatened by this if you are a low functioning whiner who traffics mostly in pity plays.
I guess you're right. I find it that if some people do know you're a sociopath they stick around expecting me to change because of feelings or something instead of functional purposes. Or somehow they are protected because the are in a relationship with me. My mentor told me I shouldn't tell much people that I'm a sociopath since they are usually ignorant to everything about it
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ReplyDeleteGreetings My dear friends. I am so happy to share this wonderful testimony about Dr Brave, my name is Mellisa Jefferson I am 32 years old, I live in Florida USA, I am happily married to Sowers Jefferson with three kids we got married in 2004 I am a banker but due to some certain family conditions I had to quit my job so I could have time for my family my husband works in a construction company not long ago around may 2015 my husband started to behave in a way i could not understand, i was very Confused by the way he treat me and the Kids. Later that month he did not come home again and he called me that he want a divorce, i asked him what have i Done wrong to deserve this from him, all he was saying is that he want a divorce That he hate me and do not want to see Me again in his life, i was mad and also Frustrated do not know what to do,i was Sick for more than 4 weeks because of the divorce. i love him so much he was everything to me without him my life is Incomplete. i told my sister and she told me to contact a spell caster, i never believed in all this spell casting of a thing. i just want to try if something will come out of it. i contacted Dr Brave for the return of my husband to me, he told me that my husband have Been taken by another woman, that she cast a spell on him that is why he hate me and also want us to divorce. then he told me that he have to cast a spell on him that will make him return to Me and the kids, he casted the spell and After 27hours my husband called me and He told me that i should forgive him, he Started to apologize on phone and said That he still loves me that he did not know what happen to him that he left me. it was the spell that Dr Brave casted on him that brought him back to me today, i and my family Are now happy again today. thank you Dr Brave for what you have done for me i would have been nothing Today if not for your great spell. i want You my friends who are passing through All this kind of love problem of getting Back their husband, wife , or ex boyfriend and girlfriend to contact him on this email: bravespellcaster@gmail.com , web site:http://enchantedscents.tripod.com/lovespell/ . and you will see that your problem will be solved Without any delay or effect cell number +2348072370762 Thanks for reading..
ReplyDeleteAm here to testify what this great spell caster done for me. i never believe in spell casting, until when i was was tempted to try it. i and my husband have been having a lot of problem living together, he will always not make me happy because he have fallen in love with another lady outside our relationship, i tried my best to make sure that my husband leave this woman but the more i talk to him the more he makes me fell sad, so my marriage is now leading to divorce because he no longer gives me attention. so with all this pain and agony, i decided to contact this spell caster to see if things can work out between me and my husband again. this spell caster who was a woman told me that my husband is really under a great spell that he have been charm by some magic, so she told me that she was going to make all things normal back. she did the spell on my husband and after 5 days my husband changed completely he even apologize with the way he treated me that he was not him self, i really thank this woman her name is Dr Aluta she have bring back my husband back to me i want you all to contact her who are having any problem related to marriage issue and relationship problem she will solve it for you. her email is traditionalspellhospital@gmail.com she is a woman and she is great. wish you good time.
He cast spells for different purposes like
(1) If you want your ex back.
(2) if you always have bad dream
(3) You want to be promoted in your office.
(4) You want women/men to run after you.
(5) If you want a child.
(6) You want to be rich.
(7) You want to tie your husband/wife to be yours forever.
(8) If you need financial assistance.
(9) HIV/AIDS CURE
(10) is the only answer to that your problem of winning the lottery
Contact him today on: traditionalspellhospital@gmail.com
I have seen a lot of testimony about his work on the the internet on blog pages and so on. I literally took a lip of faith to contact him and it turn out that it paid off. In my own case i didn't ask that him to make anyone fall in love with me or ask that my cheating wife comes back.This time i was at fault i messed up. I wasn't so surprise when she asked that we go our separate ways. It was right about that time i asked Akpe Osilama help me get my wife to love as she did before. I was able to provide the items he asked that i get for the spell and send then down to him.The spell does become effective at once cos just after i did what Akpe Osilama asked me to do with what he sent me, it took 16 hours before anything happened i even thought for a minute that i had met a fake spell caster but in the end i am happy with my wife again. I will also leave his contact for those who thing he can help them { chiefpriestakpeosilamaspellcast@yahoo.com }
ReplyDeleteAm here to testify what this great spell caster done for me. i never believe in spell casting, until when i was was tempted to try it. i and my husband have been having a lot of problem living together, he will always not make me happy because he have fallen in love with another lady outside our relationship, i tried my best to make sure that my husband leave this woman but the more i talk to him the more he makes me fell sad, so my marriage is now leading to divorce because he no longer gives me attention. so with all this pain and agony, i decided to contact this spell caster to see if things can work out between me and my husband again. this spell caster who was a man told me that my husband is really under a great spell that he have been charm by some magic, so he told me that she was going to make all things normal back. he did the spell on my husband and after 5 days my husband changed completely he even apologize with the way he treated me that he was not him self, i really thank this man he name is Dr fara he have bring back my husband back to me i want you all to contact him who are having any problem related to marriage issue and relationship problem he will solve it for you. his email is drfaraspelltemple@gmail.com or call him on this number +23454265852 he is a man and him is great. wish you good time.
ReplyDeleteHe cast spells for different purposes like
(1) If you want your ex back.
(2) if you always have bad dream
(3) You want to be promoted in your office.
(4) You want women/men to run after you.
(5) If you want a child.
(6) You want to be rich.
(7) You want to tie your husband/wife to be yours forever.
(8) If you need financial assistance.
(9) HIV/AIDS CURE
(10) is the only answer to that your problem of winning the lottery
Contact him today on: drfaraspelltemple@gmail.com
There's nothing wrong with "discriminatory" as long as its against psychopaths. Isn't criminal law discriminatory against anti-social behaviour?
ReplyDeleteI get a kick out of the internationally recognized definition of genocide:
".. acts committed with intent to destroy, in whole or in part, a national, ethnical, racial or religious group."
Notice something missing?