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Saw this documentary and thought that it seemed like the kind of thing beautiful sociopathic women might do to take advantage of their looks.
Is this an instance of sociopathic femininity or is it something else entirely?
What's so new about that? Hugh Hefner has been doing that forever.
ReplyDeleteAnother smut king named Al Goldstein said that while men turn women into sex
objects, women turn men into SUCESS objects. He said: "When I was in front of
the limo, I never got girls, but when I was in back of the limo, I got plenty of girls."
Look at this sickening Trump specticle. A total N.P.D. empty suit. A pretty but
insubstantial package, completely illustrative of America 2015.
The media made him. We'll have to wait to see how they break him.
They look like they're standard gold diggers.
ReplyDeleteYes morality may be subjective, but couldn't it also be true that human beings have a set of ethics by default?
ReplyDeleteWe're born clean of ethics; it's only through growing up in society that we're whitewashed with morality.
DeleteNot necessary as empathy could be linked with the neurological system.
DeleteIf you can feel the deep pain of someone you would not expose yourself of someone else to this pain.
I have read somewhere that young doctors and nurses can have classes about empathy in order to not be too cold with their clients and try to understand better what they might feel.
Sociopaths have deep hidden pain, and instead of turning to themselves (not to punish themselves but to handle their life and find a cure to this pain) they turn to other happy people (anyone will do), to punish these people because they remind them about this pain...
DeleteIn fact they constantly try to punish people that doesn't have to suffer like them, because the world is truly unfair. But it is leading nowhere...as destroying others brings only a very temporary joy.
Sociopaths should really invest in therapy, but it is breaking their narcissist image and it is long and difficult.
Psychologists do think that when able to start a therapy the results are quite good for the sociopaths.
@ Lala and everybody else... I think they should spend time building their own happiness, a joy that is not dependent on others' wellbeing or destruction. Like doing things they like or working with researchers to find a "treatment" (I don't mean to say sociopathy is a disease, because it's not, I just mean to say they can find somethings to make them feel better).
Delete@ Morbid: I think that most of them can't as they haven't/couldn't foresee what is to build yourself. There is a strong deficiency in their "self", they didn't have the positive mirror they should have had as parents (and the parents might not have had too earlier).
DeleteThat's why we often read that for some part at least, Sociopaths are "empty".
If for example a parent loves you only for this or that, and not for who you are, you will understand that who you truly are is not good and can't be loved. (But it seems that part of the sociopathic system can be also neurological).
If nobody loves you for who you are then why would you really care about yourself (deeply), and give attention to build yourself.
When a sociopath is attacking someone else, most of the time he just want to tell HIMSELF "no, this girl I admire is not better than me, and I will push her down to feel I am better".
There is a very simple rule in life, when you love and admire yourself, you know it and don't need at all to prove it to others or compare yourself.
People who spend time trying to be better than or compare in fact hate themselves deeply but will never tell it (if only they know it).
As far as I know some sociopaths, the "very" blond one is the best example.
ReplyDeleteWhat is interesting in this documentary is that they are proud to show their strategies on TV.
BUT, as the man stopped everything when he has realized that it won't go further...first she didn't care..."at least I earned a travel to NY and a ring", but then at the hotel in her room...she has started to speak about her life and this is a totally different chapter of the sociopaths.
This is why I said that thereis a deep suffering but it might be a subjective one, or unconscious one. Sometimes they don't realise that the way they behave AND what have happened in their early life or family background is totally linked.
The top model girl, for me, is not really sociopathic. She is working as a model, she is doing business as a model and doing marketing with it in order to keep control on how things might evolve in her life, and avoid some dirty things (having sex with photographs...).
The last one is in a deep kind of social condition, have to pay the bills, a child, ... night dancer, mistress on the web...it might be a social sociopathy :)
The blond girl is really more like a shark.
I would find their life totally empty, personally...sticking on others, hunting, to get feed... totally dependent in fact when they think they are independent.
Almost all the sociopaths I know have one day open up by themselves on their difficult childhood and especially the lack of care from the parents. It was for me the first signal to understand what is hiding below.
Does anyone think that these men are just idiots?
DeleteI would had that it's not only the care the parents gave, but more the quality of the care an attention they gave...
ReplyDeleteA few things. Any rinser has no need for me because I an't givin shit. The old man said "he thinks he doesnt have to buy produce at wholesale value". I am not buying the produce period. I already have seen the produce and im not interested in doing business (I thought I said this already). If its owner has the resources go to him (old custies r willing to buy because they could never get otherwise. Im eager to marry a rinser and transfer half my wealth even tho that same one isnt good enough for my disposable funds
ReplyDeleteYour so right Lala. If only they could dig deep into their own sub-conscious and root out what happened in their early childhood, they could find some happiness. This is no different from what other's who had difficult starts in life have to do. Sociopath, or not, the work and deep healing that needs to be done, is the same. I wish success for anyone who's willing to take on this hard work of self exploration.
ReplyDeleteIt seems that sociopaths are among the ones which have a deep "narcissic vulnerability" (doesn't mean they are "narcissists" in the common sense). To compensate this, they built a huge "self - ego". To have a therapy is to volontary go down from what they think to be the top. I guess it is quite difficult and painful for them.
ReplyDeleteWomen trade sex for $$$ "love." And it doesn't matter if she's a dull dowger
ReplyDeleteor a business excetive.
So u put all that effort and all that time stalking for nothing.
ReplyDeleteNot all gold diggers are sociopaths and not all sociopaths are gold diggers.
ReplyDeleteOne problem with gold digging is that it forces you to indulge the whims of your victim to a certain extent. Not something all socio's have the time and patience for. Sometimes it's better to have your own shit so that you can truly own and control it
Yeah, apparently that huge ego stops them from getting help. Such a bummer, because some of them are such awesome, fun people and have so much to offer. Such a waste for them and those that love them.
ReplyDeletethey maybe sociopaths, but the kind I find empty and boring. :) I like my own kind.
ReplyDeleteWomen almost never are psychos, so the chance of meeting one is almost zero. If one still has an urge to befriend these, try females in zodiac sign "Virgo". A female virgoan often display "classic symptoms" such as shrewd coldness, detachment, hidden lava-like anger and many love the sound of "mourning and despair" and chapel-bells tolling in the distance. The playmate to "Hecate" in the myths, so if the answer is not the almost guaranteed short "-get lost." then this may be somebodys best sociopathic/morbid buddy! Likes the smell of funeral lilies in the morning..
ReplyDeleteWell u know the answer. So now it leads to the question what else do u want. Go to ur owner he thinks ur worth what u want. U injected urself into my routine. Now go away if u were worth it I would have complied. If ur master is so superior then go to him. Leave me alone.
ReplyDeleteWhen I first went over that PCL-R, first thing that struck me:
ReplyDeleteA psychopath is a woman in a male body.
I'd still have to agree with myself on that.
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the irony is they'll get addicted to easy money and that will be their downfall in the end
ReplyDeleteYour lying again. I know the truth is hard for you to see. Life doesn't have to be all lies and made up complicated bull-shit. It really doesn't.
ReplyDeleteMake NO MISTAKE about it. I am, and always will be, master and director of my life.
ReplyDeleteI answer to no-one.
I don't understand.. Therapy, good therapy that costs far too much money, is all about the person. It's basically hiring someone for a "me" session. Let's talk about the history of me. Study me. Write a goddamn essay on me. Your entire reason for existing is to help me. If you can't, then what's the point of you?
ReplyDeleteI don't get why it's not appealing to a socio? A lot of killer socios actively revel in psychological evaluations of themselves
To the people who think they are bad inside and hurt because of it. It is not your fault. You are not bad. Your parents might be stupid. But you aren't bad.
ReplyDeleteCan some of you please pick up a fucking dictionary.
ReplyDeleteWhen you really love yourself, you don't need to prove how good or whatever you are to anyone else.
Blah,Blah, Blah. empty,empty,empty. hollow,hollow,hollow. Bummer for you!
ReplyDelete@ anonymous 5:03:
ReplyDeleteYou have a strange vision of therapy.
A psychologist is someone which will be used by the person that will come as a mirror to see himself with a certain distance.
It helps to address what can not easily be solved by ourselves.
But there are different kind of therapies.
Also, sociopaths don't seem to be what we usually call "narcissists".
The fact that we pay a therapist is a way to understand that he is not a friend, or a relative at all. And this is a job of course!
In certain countries, state health insurance is paying for therapies...means you will have the amount (that you still pay) paid back. Means you can have a therapy for free (nearly).
I am a very attractive young woman who easily manipulates men into giving me what I want. I don't know if this makes me a sociopath though, though I am for other reasons.
ReplyDeleteI have a somewhat unrelated question. Do sociopaths get angry easily? I sometimes feel that I have a very short fuse - ie I get angry when I don't get my way or when someone accuses me of being wrong, or even tries to tease me, and I am often unnecessarily confrontational, and yet other times I am able to laugh things off with ease. Have others experienced this?
" What you do speaks so loudly that I cannot hear what you say."
ReplyDelete-- Ralph Waldo Emerson
Well as an socio and an escort/porn actress I'd say that being a socio is very useful in this industry. Though in my experience the sex work world is made up of mostly opportunistic empaths.
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ReplyDeleteI did worry about the fellow in New York who said that he would show her what he's like when he's mean if she ever makes him angry. That's the kind of man who might need blacklisting. Sure, he's wealthy, but his lack of emotional control's gonna hurt somebody if he hasn't already. Hope she's okay!
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