Design Matters' Debbie Millman interviews Brandon Stanton, creator of Humans of New York. He had some interesting opinions about visiting prisoners, opening his mind to understand more about their story, but still drawing conclusions about "shoulds" regarding accountability. From Brain Pickings:
DEBBIE MILLMAN: Do people scare you with some of their stories — do you hear things that frighten you?
BRANDON STANTON: It’s a good question. There’s a large range of human experience… I just went to five different federal prisons and I interviewed thirty inmates. I think that the truth — and this is a dangerous line to draw, because you get into moral relativism — but I think the truth is always exculpatory… If you dig down into why this woman strangled this 11-year-old girl, you learn about her paranoid schizophrenia, which she didn’t know was schizophrenia — she thought [there] were people talking to her. And then if you dig back even further than that, you find out about the uncle who raped her every night, from the age of seven to eleven. And you start to realize that these people are acting with the information that they had about the world, and they were speaking in the language that they knew.
And once you dig down to that level, everything can be explained.
DEBBIE MILLMAN: It’s a very compassionate, very generous view of humanity.
BRANDON STANTON: And, it’s not a view that can be necessarily acted upon — because there needs to be…
DEBBIE MILLMAN: …what is excusable and what is forgivable.
BRANDON STANTON: Exactly. And you do need to draw those lines. You had schizophrenia? I’m sorry, you killed somebody… [But] this is one thing this prison series really opened up to me — the schism in America between compassion and accountability, and it is a schism that runs through every comment section I have where somebody admits something [difficult].
DEBBIE MILLMAN: Do people scare you with some of their stories — do you hear things that frighten you?
BRANDON STANTON: It’s a good question. There’s a large range of human experience… I just went to five different federal prisons and I interviewed thirty inmates. I think that the truth — and this is a dangerous line to draw, because you get into moral relativism — but I think the truth is always exculpatory… If you dig down into why this woman strangled this 11-year-old girl, you learn about her paranoid schizophrenia, which she didn’t know was schizophrenia — she thought [there] were people talking to her. And then if you dig back even further than that, you find out about the uncle who raped her every night, from the age of seven to eleven. And you start to realize that these people are acting with the information that they had about the world, and they were speaking in the language that they knew.
And once you dig down to that level, everything can be explained.
DEBBIE MILLMAN: It’s a very compassionate, very generous view of humanity.
BRANDON STANTON: And, it’s not a view that can be necessarily acted upon — because there needs to be…
DEBBIE MILLMAN: …what is excusable and what is forgivable.
BRANDON STANTON: Exactly. And you do need to draw those lines. You had schizophrenia? I’m sorry, you killed somebody… [But] this is one thing this prison series really opened up to me — the schism in America between compassion and accountability, and it is a schism that runs through every comment section I have where somebody admits something [difficult].