Oh North, you are back! What a pleasant surprise! I didn't had the chance to read your last answer on my comment about you and *** because you deleted everything. Are you upset because I said all these things? BTW you are right, boredom is a powerful motivator.
Spoke to a clinical psychologist today regarding the video and this post plus decreased regulation from the pre-frontal cortex. She described it as lack of integration.
I had thought **-* blamed me for any "bad" feelings he had, but her explanation means it may not have been blame, just lashing out. Lash out, deal with it, done.
Looking at these behaviours as externalisation, one case view our history as his acting out persistent feelings of stress, exposure and generalised threat at being in a relationship.
I've been reflecting that I have no reservations about him. I like him, I accept him. The stress is only in regards to his externalisation behaviours. In brief, the stress, uncertainty and discomfort is his.
Back to my thread... I've asked him these questions. I don't anticipate a response but I do think it's a constructive thing to respectfully articulate my full view of the situation, that is to speak the truth in love as my mum used to say.
I think humans just feel better doing that.
And I think the hardest thing in relating to sociopaths is being able to do this because it can really only be done once enough understanding has been reached.
When I met ME, my impression was of an expectation that we should just understand. **-* is similar in this respect: he simply never explained and expects me to understand. We're not your mothers and you're different and we don't know.
I'm helpful ME's new book will provide more of a baseline.
'cause once we understand, we know what to do. No worries, mate.
Some socios have indifference problems: seeing even money and ownership as pointless. They think their corporate leading "brothers" are half psychotics, deluded.
Some see indifference as socio superpower. The sociopath can go through life untroubled by 80% of what break most people and turn them into alcoholics. The socio can stand poverty, isolation, no friends, bad weather, no dog that likes him, no kids, no wife etc & so on. If he gets locked in isolation in prison he sees it as a cheap, quiet hotel room. Indifference, a socio weak spot?
Some sociopaths deny that money is control. They think real control does not exist. Like philosphers they see efforts to rule, control or dominate as fools game. "-Does the hamster control the wheel?" some of them may ask.
i was running today and see a hammer in the middle of the road i pick it up so i it cannot dmg the cars that can run over it i continue running with the hammer in my hand ppl noticing me runnign with the hammer in my hand and i notice their reaction it makes me grin
Slightly more interesting than the usual, but a very puzzling blend of contemporary research and historical perspectives on morality, making a hamfisted analysis of how and why humans make decisions. The historical view of emotion vs reason is not substantiated by current science. It's just not how we work. The pre-frontal cortex modulates cortical and limbic activity, and is described as actually being part of the limbic system. It's a lot more effort for psychopaths to integrate and regulate competing impulses.
Philosophy needs to pull itself fully into the 21st century.
I do agree with parts of the article but enough with the phrase "dialling up or down" ... the piss-weak conflation of states with traits.
Another weak point: the language used continues to indicate psychopaths choose their proclivities. I wouldn't say it blames psychopaths and I'm pretty sure the intention of the article is to be original and objective, but there's definitely too much agency ascribed to patterns of choice that different from the norm.
Highlights are: Indicating the self-serving nature of empathy (although I think the core argument is that behaviour is about survival and not done nebulous concept like mortality)
Discussion of the more mundane nature of divergences between psychopaths and non-psychopaths
Spotlighting the different accounting for context, and the immediate goal focus. I think the article could go further in describing the similarities and differences with psychopaths in terms of context. Most people regard psychopathic logic as inappropriate to context... She provides a great example.
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Teenagers often get tired of things. Socios are indifferent.
ReplyDeleteI'm bored at the moment and will make moves.
ReplyDeleteBoredom is a powerful motivator, an intolerable condition.
If **-* is anything to go by, maybe sociopaths have very little tolerance for any emotion that doesn't feel good. Immediate action.
Maybe it works both ways: a rush at things that feel good too.
I reckon that makes sense of **-*'s behaviour.
Direction: maybe that's what the impulsivity is all about. Pre-frontal cortex not stepping in to negotiate those emotional drivers.
It would be interesting to hear other people's experiences.
I think that's why **-* limited his exposure to things he'd be tempted by. Prevention is better than cure, clever boy.
DeleteOh North, you are back! What a pleasant surprise! I didn't had the chance to read your last answer on my comment about you and *** because you deleted everything. Are you upset because I said all these things? BTW you are right, boredom is a powerful motivator.
DeleteI take your question
DeleteMy turn: are you continuing to confuse Quora with SW?
DeleteI don't use Quora but maybe I should look into it.
DeleteIf I confuse them it's not intentional.
DeleteSpoke to a clinical psychologist today regarding the video and this post plus decreased regulation from the pre-frontal cortex. She described it as lack of integration.
DeleteI had thought **-* blamed me for any "bad" feelings he had, but her explanation means it may not have been blame, just lashing out. Lash out, deal with it, done.
Looking at these behaviours as externalisation, one case view our history as his acting out persistent feelings of stress, exposure and generalised threat at being in a relationship.
I've been reflecting that I have no reservations about him. I like him, I accept him. The stress is only in regards to his externalisation behaviours. In brief, the stress, uncertainty and discomfort is his.
North, are you obsessed with ***?
DeleteAnon, I take your question.
DeleteMy turn. Anon, are you obsessed with me?
A bit. I would stalk you if I had time. Would that scare you, north?
DeleteI take your question.
DeleteMy turn. What are you protecting?
Do you also have other answers except I take your question? That's a bit boring. Protecting in what way? What do you think I protect?
DeleteBack to my thread... I've asked him these questions. I don't anticipate a response but I do think it's a constructive thing to respectfully articulate my full view of the situation, that is to speak the truth in love as my mum used to say.
DeleteI think humans just feel better doing that.
And I think the hardest thing in relating to sociopaths is being able to do this because it can really only be done once enough understanding has been reached.
When I met ME, my impression was of an expectation that we should just understand. **-* is similar in this respect: he simply never explained and expects me to understand. We're not your mothers and you're different and we don't know.
I'm helpful ME's new book will provide more of a baseline.
'cause once we understand, we know what to do. No worries, mate.
It has been years and years and YEARS that you have been regurgitating the same narrative, North. Why the fuck are you *actually* still here?
DeleteSeriously. What do you hope to learn or accomplish beyond what you have already gleaned from the dubious intel in this shithole, hm?
I see that Astrotard and Themes are also back, in tandem. Gee! What coincidence.
;)
Some socios have indifference problems: seeing even money and ownership as pointless. They think their corporate leading "brothers" are half psychotics, deluded.
ReplyDeleteeminently relatable
ReplyDeleteBeing bored is a weakness. It stems from being in a rut and not having goals. A powerful person never allows themselves to be bored.
ReplyDelete^Absolutely.
DeleteSome see indifference as socio superpower. The sociopath can go through life untroubled by 80% of what break most people and turn them into alcoholics. The socio can stand poverty, isolation, no friends, bad weather, no dog that likes him, no kids, no wife etc & so on. If he gets locked in isolation in prison he sees it as a cheap, quiet hotel room. Indifference, a socio weak spot?
ReplyDeleteWhy would he get locked in prison?
DeleteBad weather? I think people have identifiable mental changes deriving from the germs of that animal.
DeleteWhy would a temperament like that abide in poverty?
ReplyDeleteSome sociopaths deny that money is control. They think real control does not exist. Like philosphers they see efforts to rule, control or dominate as fools game. "-Does the hamster control the wheel?" some of them may ask.
ReplyDeletei was running today and see a hammer in the middle of the road
ReplyDeletei pick it up so i it cannot dmg the cars that can run over it
i continue running with the hammer in my hand
ppl noticing me runnign with the hammer in my hand and i notice their reaction
it makes me grin
Heads-up for a message then.
ReplyDeleteI see.
DeleteWhat do you see?
DeleteA direct response
DeleteSW Theme Song
ReplyDeletehttps://youtu.be/Cyt0ViDtJ_w
https://youtu.be/stpaq27-V70
ReplyDeleteLet's go with this version
Deletehttps://youtu.be/VXemvgYDm6Y
Let's not. The original is SO much better.
Deletehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aieEZ950d1I
DeleteI really need a suit like the singer's.
https://aeon.co/essays/you-have-more-in-common-with-a-psychopath-than-you-realise
ReplyDeleteSlightly more interesting than the usual, but a very puzzling blend of contemporary research and historical perspectives on morality, making a hamfisted analysis of how and why humans make decisions. The historical view of emotion vs reason is not substantiated by current science. It's just not how we work. The pre-frontal cortex modulates cortical and limbic activity, and is described as actually being part of the limbic system. It's a lot more effort for psychopaths to integrate and regulate competing impulses.
Philosophy needs to pull itself fully into the 21st century.
I do agree with parts of the article but enough with the phrase "dialling up or down" ... the piss-weak conflation of states with traits.
Another weak point: the language used continues to indicate psychopaths choose their proclivities. I wouldn't say it blames psychopaths and I'm pretty sure the intention of the article is to be original and objective, but there's definitely too much agency ascribed to patterns of choice that different from the norm.
Highlights are:
Indicating the self-serving nature of empathy (although I think the core argument is that behaviour is about survival and not done nebulous concept like mortality)
Discussion of the more mundane nature of divergences between psychopaths and non-psychopaths
Spotlighting the different accounting for context, and the immediate goal focus. I think the article could go further in describing the similarities and differences with psychopaths in terms of context. Most people regard psychopathic logic as inappropriate to context... She provides a great example.
Maybe you should tell your comments to the author. I guess she does not visit SW.
DeletePerhaps. I would have to put a proper amount of effort into that.
DeleteThis is actually a really good analysis
DeleteI read it and was like "that's nice" but didn't have much else in the way of thoughts about it LULZ
it is hard to figure out what her motivation is to me. Almost like a 'no such thing as a psychopath', maybe. A psychopath apologist, possibly?
Find stuff you like to do. I would visit friends to have fun.
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